Does True Love Exist?

[JagFarlane]

Aww, that's sad! It's actually a great group- I'll PM you about it so as to not distract from the theme of the thread.

Ah no worries. LOL I get along as can be. -shrugs- but true love does exist...just a matter of finding it

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

Ah no worries. LOL I get along as can be. -shrugs- but true love does exist...just a matter of finding it

Agreed... I've found it in some forms... but not the permanent one... not yet...

 

[JagFarlane]

Agreed... I've found it in some forms... but not the permanent one... not yet...

Just can't give up hope...heh no matter how often I want to...I don't give up hope

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

Just can't give up hope...heh no matter how often I want to...I don't give up hope

Never. Hope is more than optimism- it's the expectation of things to come.

 

[JagFarlane]

Never. Hope is more than optimism- it's the expectation of things to come.

Mmmm too true. I just hope a lot of people here don't give it up

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

Mmmm too true. I just hope a lot of people here don't give it up

A lot of people, here and otherwise, have been burned by bad experiences, or are looking for passion instead of love, or aren't ready to really give themselves to love. Love hurts sometimes. You are guaranteed to hurt if you find love. But that's part of the deal. Love isn't true unless it survives the hurts.

 

[JagFarlane]

A lot of people, here and otherwise, have been burned by bad experiences, or are looking for passion instead of love, or aren't ready to really give themselves to love. Love hurts sometimes. You are guaranteed to hurt if you find love. But that's part of the deal. Love isn't true unless it survives the hurts.

Mhmmmm love is about being able to work through the problems

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

Mhmmmm love is about being able to work through the problems

Love is knowing there will be problems that need to be worked through and deciding ahead of time that there are very few things you can't handle together.

 

[mikeyirish]

very salient

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

very salient

oooh... good word....

 

[mikeyirish]

thank you *bows*

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

thank you *bows*

I always appreciate sesquipedalienists.

 

[blueeyes7564]

Not sure if this was directed at me or not, but if it was, I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I was responding to what Sirgary had said.

I was actually responding to what Sirgary had said also.......

 

[blueeyes7564]

I know not everyone shares my opinions and sometimes I keep my mouth shut, even when I feel strongly... and love is something that I've been thinking about a lot for awhile now... so it's nice when someone else appreciates my thoughts.

It was very elegantly put, and there are still a few of us out here, that do believe in true love...........I have been in love with two different men in my life........one i give my heart to completey with no conditions on the love what so ever.......he still has my heart, as well as my love and he always will.......the other one, is a new love, and I have not given to him completely but I will in time, if it is meant to be........................

 

[SimpleGifts]

...just a thought....does love denote power?...

...when one gives thier love uncontisionally, do they take the stance of being in a weaker position for having done so?

My two cents, ever late to the party...

First, that love is Zen...unconditional love can seem like a surrender...giving up your free will by sacrificing yourself for the one whom you love. In fact, the opposite is true...unconditional love is about liberation. You give the one you love permission to be whomever they are, to do what they need to do...even if that means the one you love leaves you. It's not about surrender, it's about acceptance. There is someone whom I will always love, and that love will always give me strength, even if I never see her again.

Second...true love exists through one thing: belief. Loving someone is an act of faith. No one can ever prove that love exists...much like trying to prove the existence of God. Proving that love exists would immediately destroy it, because the power of love stems from the power of faith in your love. If you don't believe it exists, it never will. But if you believe that it exists...somehow, it will manifest itself in your life. You just have to be open-minded enough to accept it when it comes. And when it goes.

SG

 

[chelleb]

I say true love isn't about power, but about surrender. It's about gift, not reception. When love is given freely from one to another, there is no regard for power or inequality- the two just want to give more and more love to one another.

Love does put the lovee in the position of being able to hurt the lover, sure. But if that is seen as power, then the lovee doesn't truly regard the gift as love. If he/she did, there is no way he/she would ever exploit it.

I think love grows, and in a society where "love" is thrown around so carelessly, I think it's normal to hold oneself back, at least a little, while falling in love. The cool part is when you don't have to do that anymore, when you've given yourself completely and you don't have to be afraid anymore.

Love that is true is respectful, not demanding, not limit-setting, not conditional, and it is given freely without expectation. There is not enough true love in this world.

Wow - this is almost exactly what I was thinking and couldn'tfind the right words to put down.

Very well stated!

 

[chelleb]

I was actually responding to what Sirgary had said also.......

Ok, no problem, no worries.

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

Wow - this is almost exactly what I was thinking and couldn'tfind the right words to put down.

Very well stated!

Thank you...

 

[cyikac1986]

My two cents, ever late to the party...

First, that love is Zen...unconditional love can seem like a surrender...giving up your free will by sacrificing yourself for the one whom you love. In fact, the opposite is true...unconditional love is about liberation. You give the one you love permission to be whomever they are, to do what they need to do...even if that means the one you love leaves you. It's not about surrender, it's about acceptance. There is someone whom I will always love, and that love will always give me strength, even if I never see her again.

Second...true love exists through one thing: belief. Loving someone is an act of faith. No one can ever prove that love exists...much like trying to prove the existence of God. Proving that love exists would immediately destroy it, because the power of love stems from the power of faith in your love. If you don't believe it exists, it never will. But if you believe that it exists...somehow, it will manifest itself in your life. You just have to be open-minded enough to accept it when it comes. And when it goes.

SG

You my dear friend are always sage (and wise for your young years)

 

[Colton_White]

true Love exists

We, as a society, have become a loveless, sex crazed group of people with no concern for any emotion or attachment in our lives.

=Right ..just like myspace And some threads here..e.g xyz location's fuck buddies chat/ BBWs for fun and chat / incest is best/ etc etc etc

So does this mean that true love exist?
YES ABSOLOUTLY RIGHT.

but has merely been pushed aside by convenience, superficiality, and apathy.

My defination of true love is..

when that loved one is ill... needs eye/kideny/bone-marrow etc. and you get ready to donate yours immediately..that's true love.

If your loved one gets permanent disability ..that doesn't make you see them as 'burdens'

all others are loves ..but not true loves.


P.S.
I'm not here to hijack this tread.

 

[JamieB]

A pragmatist's view

I used to think I knew a lot about love, but i think I was always imposing my will on the concept. That is, I was always believing it should be the way I imagined it or read it would be.

Now I think what I really, truly know about love comes down to two things. Well, three things, I suppose, or two with a corollary.

First of all, you can't earn love, you can't deserve it, you can't trade it, you can't hide it, you can't work towards it, you can't even learn from it. You can only give it, and you don't get to decide whom you give it to or when.

Second, romance and love are often confused, and with disastrous results. Romance is the way we think things ought to be, but love is the way things really are. Romance is temporary, but love is ongoing. Romance is difficult, but love is easy. Romance plays a bit part, but love is the play itself.

And here's the corollary: People who confuse romance and love are almost always disappointed with the reality.

J

 

[lonelyinsnowlan]

I used to think I knew a lot about love, but i think I was always imposing my will on the concept. That is, I was always believing it should be the way I imagined it or read it would be.

Now I think what I really, truly know about love comes down to two things. Well, three things, I suppose, or two with a corollary.

First of all, you can't earn love, you can't deserve it, you can't trade it, you can't hide it, you can't work towards it, you can't even learn from it. You can only give it, and you don't get to decide whom you give it to or when.

Second, romance and love are often confused, and with disastrous results. Romance is the way we think things ought to be, but love is the way things really are. Romance is temporary, but love is ongoing. Romance is difficult, but love is easy. Romance plays a bit part, but love is the play itself.

And here's the corollary: People who confuse romance and love are almost always disappointed with the reality.
J

AMEN!!! Well stated.

 

[sirgary]

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[cyikac1986]

I used to think I knew a lot about love, but i think I was always imposing my will on the concept. That is, I was always believing it should be the way I imagined it or read it would be.

Now I think what I really, truly know about love comes down to two things. Well, three things, I suppose, or two with a corollary.

First of all, you can't earn love, you can't deserve it, you can't trade it, you can't hide it, you can't work towards it, you can't even learn from it. You can only give it, and you don't get to decide whom you give it to or when.

Second, romance and love are often confused, and with disastrous results. Romance is the way we think things ought to be, but love is the way things really are. Romance is temporary, but love is ongoing. Romance is difficult, but love is easy. Romance plays a bit part, but love is the play itself.

And here's the corollary: People who confuse romance and love are almost always disappointed with the reality.

J

I have to agree here with your comments as well. And the collary is correct, though there are some who, in my opinion, do not know what the word love actually means. Love is a selfless act, not a selfish one. You can't mete out love because you think it will hold someone to you. You give love, fully and freely.

 

[sirgary]

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