Does size really matter?

[Guest]

I'd like to pose a question to those of you who'd care to answer. When you're writing a story...does size really matter? And I'm NOT just talking about penis size here either.

I personally do not enjoy a story when I learn every woman's bra size who happens to be a character in the story. What? Did they all run off and tell their boyfriends...(in some cases) girlfriends what sized bra they wear...and THEN get down to checking it out?

Ok...that's one.

Obviously the "penis" thingy....yeah. I mean "Good grief Charlie Brown"...does every guy in every story always have at least a 9" dick? Whatever happened to Joe average? I've even tried to reintroduce the "average" size penis...(without giving actual measurements) back into many of my stories. For starters...I think most of the women who enjoy reading my stuff don't mind a guy with a normal sized cock, provided he's not bad with his tongue.

As for the guys...yeah, I'll throw in some large boobs for them...but gee, isn't it more exciting to let them think about how large they want them to be without my telling them?

Any thoughts on what you believe is tasteful, erotic, sensual without bringing out the tape measure?

I remain......(curious)

Thesandman

 

[Madame Manga]

Nine inches, in the literal, is a mental "Ouch!" I'm small-boned, not quite 5'4'', and even though I've delivered two children, nine inches would be a stretch, to coin a phrase. ;-) I once mail-ordered a silicone object of those dimensions, with a commensurate thickness of about two inches, and I can't even use it.

Nine inches in the fantastical is standard-sized. ;-) It's something like the casualty figures reported for medieval battles by the contemporary chroniclers--the numbers are chosen for impact, not for accuracy.

Exact tit sizes make me think of bra advertisements. Now, some guys (and even gals) may be turned on by bra advertisements, but I'm not. When those measurements get into the double Ds, I even take a quick look downwards (two kids, remember) and get a mild case of boob envy. Not conducive to good thoughts.

Measurements are sloppy, believe it or not. They are a shortcut that obviates genuine description. Suggestion please, not precision. Show me what the guy thought when her shirt came off; show me how it felt to have his penis inside her. That will create the effect you are after.

None of us has exactly the same turn-ons, and if an author can cleverly suggest something that accords with a great majority of taste, while not excluding the minority, he or she is going to turn on many more people than someone who insists on nailing down every detail ad nauseum, IMO.

MM

 

[MissTaken]

I enjoy a story which eludes to the size and build of the characters.

Adjectives are great tools to portray an image without resorting to numbers.

"Fleshy ass" versus "firm ass"

Describing what happens with a touch:

"her soft breasts spilled over his hands as he kneaded and ..."

"He covered her breasts with each hand and gently pinched her nipples."

A good author can create an image in the mind's eye without sending a photograph!

Gosh! I am too tired to be creative, but hopefully, this post has some semblance of sense.

 

[KillerMuffin]

I just sort of looked through my recent library. I don't quantifiably mention size of boobs, penis, or body--beyond subjective words like big or something--unless its pertinent to the emotional make-up of the character.

I get disgusted by the size references in other stories.

 

[Pookie]

I have used descriptions like "medium sized breasts", "big cock", etc., but I have yet to mention anything specific in inches.

I like to leave it up to the reader to define what a "big cock" is to them. For me, that would be considerably less than the "12 inchers" out there. Leave it so the reader can define what a "big cock" is for them.

The thought of a 9 inch cock doesn't generate arousal for me. It generates something more like "keep that thing away from me".

 

[the_bragis]

Hello Sandman,

Well, a 'nine inch penis' isn't really going to get me excited is it? Give me a 'big fat throbbing cock'... any time!

Alex(fem).

 

[BigTexan]

I have used descriptions like "medium sized breasts", "big cock", etc., but I have yet to mention anything specific in inches.

How about "saggy fried egg tits flopped from her loose halter top"

I got that watching a porn movie. Tell me why do porn actresses either have tiny little fried egg tits or blimp sized silicon melons? Oh well.

I have never looked at a woman and said "Damn those must be 40DD's" So I don't write that into my stories. I have, however stood in front of a mirror and measured my own erection. No I WON'T disclose my horror here But I still won't say "his six inch cock." in a story. I may say "his flaccid cock drooped through the leg of his boxers and then began to rise." I think that gives you a pretty good idea of how big his monster meat is supposed to be, eh?

Anyways, you asked.
BigTexan

 

[Chicklet]

Size

I don't think size matters at all when I'm reading - If I want to fantasize about a guy with a big dick, then that's what I'm going to see in my head...writting it down just ruins it.

Unless it's the point of the story (I remember a "story idea" about a guy with a small penis. He had a huge complex about it and is really fixated on the fact that it's not "average" and struggles to keep himself away from relationships that might get intimate. in the end, he finds someone that just doesn't care, of course)

In my early work I think I mention sizes (lol early work - I just started writing 6 months ago) but recently i haven't mentioned anything besides "a handful" or whatnot. body size doesn't matter unless I want the reader to know that the girl is shorter than the guy or whatever.

Chicklet

 

[Guest]

Erotica........

All these comments support and make the point I was actually looking for.

What IS erotica?

As writers, we enjoy creating the illusion if you will, of the way a person looks as "we" see it. But to the reader, the illusion may turn out to be something entirely different than what we saw while creating the scene, the person...male or female. And that's the beauty of erotica.

I remember (Yes...I can still remember it...I'm not THAT old) the first boobs I ever got to feel up in the dark back seat of a car. Not only did I enjoy the touch sensory of the moment...but in my mind, I was "seeing" them, imagining what they looked like...and truth was, I never DID see them that night. It was too damn dark.

Even so...I did. In my mind. And I think that as writers, that's all that any of us can really hope for.

I remain,

 

[Route66Girl]

If you ever catch me using an actual breast or penis measurement without it being a plot point, please shoot me.



Thank you!

 

[Star of Penumbra]

The only time I will use mesurements like "Nine inch dick" or "46 DD boobs" is when a character is speaking or thinking it. So far, I have largely managed to avoid eiher of these.

 

[Sabledrake]

I can't even remember my own damn bra size without checking the tag. I sure wouldn't be able to look at a woman and cite her measurements. Ditto for judging a man. I don't carry a ruler.

I prefer to think in more abstract terms. Up with adjectives, down with statistics!

Sabledrake

 

[its Leslie]

I think body proportions for my own money, mean absolutely nothing, zippo zera nadda.

To read "she ran her tongue up and down his long 9 inch cock" as opposed to "she ran her tongue up and down the shaft of his cock", the size means nothing to me.
To read "she smothered his face in her large DD breasts" as opposed to "she smoothered his face with her large breasts", the size again means nothing to me.

Frankly, while I can imagine a 9 inch cock (vaguely) I could care less what the guy has.
And personally, I have never understood cup sizes at all. Breasts to me, come in three sizes, flat mostly not there, ordinary size (most women to my judgement), and man those are big size (gals that have boobs they should consider reducing).

Other body parts I would apply the same logic to as well. If your story is well written, I will invariably use the sizes I would like to see them in my minds eye in the first place.

 

[Whispersecret]

One of the things I'm embarrassed about in regard to my writing was including Rockwell's penis length in Hostile Takeover. Although it wasn't in the narrative, he did refer to it with his own mouth. I still cringe when I see that.

That's the only time I've succumbed to that particular urge. You have permission to flog me if I ever do it again.

 

[Guest]

Whisper...........

Whisper.............

"You have permission to flog me if I ever do it again."


I wouldn't dare......you might enjoy it too much! <wink>

I remain,

 

[wildsweetone]

hmm

in my opinion, giving measurements is telling not showing. the eroticism disappears when the showing disappears.

 

[KillerMuffin]

I think that giving measurements is something that's become unwittingly expected in porno/erotica stories. You see enough of them and if you're a beginning writer wanting to write something people think are hot, then you might think it's necessary for the hero to have 10 inches and know that his targeted woman has 40DDD boobs from across the parking lot.

I think that in a lot of sexual fantasy we're not just interested in what's going on, but what our partners look like. We're into attractiveness and sexy. We want others to think our fantasies are attractive and sexy so we give our fantasy players attributes of what attractive and sexy seem to be.

I also think that as a writer gets more practice writing and starts reading more porno/erotica, the writer gets a little more jaded by it. The newness of reading about sex is gone, so is the newness of writing and feedback. the writer gets tired of the perfect hero with the inexhaustable 10 inch boner and the perfect Barbie heroine. The fantasy is no longer enough to feed the excitement and the writer starts to crave more depth of character both in what they write and what they read.

Sometimes the 10 inch boner sticks around, sometimes it goes away. That all depends on the writer his or herself. The details and minutea of the sexual fantasy sort of get pushed back in an interest in character and plot. Whether the writer ever goes beyond simple relating fantasy and into more literary pursuits doesn't really matter.

I also think that the more we write the more we mature as not only writers, but sexual beings. Our fantasies change over time and we quit dreaming about Perfect Penis and Massives Mams and we start dreaming about people who are more skilled than endowed.

Like all generalizations, there's exceptions to everything.




Disclaimer: I don't consider myself an authority, just opinionated.

 

[Guest]

Excellent point Km..........

I know for self.......when I first began reading and later writing stories on Lit, my personal erotisism was imagining the boobs on a woman, what her pussy looked like, and then seeing myself (as a character) with a considerably larger dick than I actually have.

I would then write this into the story more as a personal pleasure for myself.

Overtime, <maturity as a writer perhaps?> I have come to look for more excitement, more satisfaction in the character depth, personality, even humor. Now...a woman's body, a man's equipment is secondary to what I find arousing.

I remain,