Do you get it?

[oggbashan]

If disagreeing with Amicus means that 'you don't 'get it'' then almost all of the AH is on your side most of the time.

I disagree with you sometimes. That doesn't mean that I think you don't 'get it'. I might have held similar opinions on some topics at your age but that also doesn't mean that your opinions are invalid now, or that mine are any more valid than yours.

Sometimes I agree with you. Sometimes we disagree. You are entitled to your views. I am entitled to mine. Amicus is entitled to his even if they are sometimes expressed very badly with a complete lack of internal logic and no real knowledge of political or economic theory.

What you are complaining about is Amicus' argument ad hominem. When he loses the debate he attacks the person - a perfectly valid method in rhetoric but totally useless in informed debate.

Og

 

[Liar]

When he loses the debate he attacks the person - a perfectly valid method in rhetoric but totally useless in informed debate.

[threadjack]I so wish that people would stop repeating that fallacy against rhetorics. It's like saying that farting into a microphone is a valid method in comedy. Which it is. In juvenile, cheap and generally bad comedy.[/threadjack]

Hey, guy's gotta defend his field, right?

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Thye're not that scary. Mostly about high funding for education and local sport, lowering bureaucracy, removing Big Government, reducing taxes and unnecessary benefit/subsidies to reduce the poverty trap, removing as much intervention from the market as possible, vigorously Anglo-centric and patriotic.

Right wing, but not by a huge margin.

The Earl

ok you get major points just for even being able to state all of that in a clear, coherent sentence!!!

 

[Tom Collins]

Da 'Frisco Gang will happily put aside our kidnapping plot for the moment and take out a contract on amicus. You want we should divy up the parts or just sink him in the river?

Anythin' for Da Earl (pronounced "Oil")
"Lucky" 3113 speaking for "Frisco" Norajane and Tom "Wheels" Collins.

You got dat right, Lucky goil.

Just tell us where dis Amicus can be found an fugedaboudit, sexy Oil! Dis guy...*gesturing in fashion reminicent of The Godfather*...he sleeps wid da fishes, sweet heart. *layin' a hot, slow liplock on Da Oil*

 

[Tom Collins]

Just as a "P.S." --Of course you get it! There are times when people don't get it. It happens. But a lot of time, "you don't get it!" is another way of saying, "Uh-oh, he's making good points and making me look like an ass! I'd better mow him down with a personal insult!"

The person arguing with you might as well have pointed and said, "Look over there! the Pope!" and then run away.

*snicker...snort...snert* The Pope!...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA...run...a...way...HAAAAHAHAHAAAAAA

BTW, did I mention...PMSL

 

[Tom Collins]

[threadjack]I so wish that people would stop repeating that fallacy against rhetorics. It's like saying that farting into a microphone is a valid method in comedy. Which it is. In juvenile, cheap and generally bad comedy.[/threadjack]

Hey, guy's gotta defend his field, right?

OMFG...the pain...the agony...i...can't...BREATH!...ROTFLMFuckinAO

Seriously thought, Earl, I don;'t know if I agree with you or not. From what I've seen on this thread I think I probably do in the majority. Truth be told though, I'd rather disagree with a nice chap like yer-sexy-self than to agree with*cough* prick *cough* Amicus. If he were a nice guy who doesn't automatically think I'm completely worthless just because I have a little extra padding on my pecs and am missing a dangling participle then I wouldn't mind disagreeing with him either.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

If anyone is looking at me with disdain, shaking their heads and going, "That boy just doesn't get it," then can I have a heads up? Lurkers too. I'm curious to meet the majority that considers all of my opinions to be wrong.

The Earl

Doesn't get WHAT? I think the only time your opinion has NOT struck me as clever and insightful, was when you were in a heated debate about the IRA with someone. Don't remember the details, I just remember that I thought you were very intense in your arguments. I'd hardly see that as "not getting it".

However, if you pay any attention to what someone like amicus says about you, you need to get your act together. Do you also care about what a pile of dog poo in the road thinks about you?

 

[SensualCealy]

All I can say to this is, take it from he who is giving it!

Like Og said, views are views, right or wrong, they are still views.
Now its up to you to believe HIM or believe all the other posters to your thread!

I The Earl!
C

 

[neonlyte]

Seriously speaking - whom doesn't agree with me on most of my political views. I won't be offended; I'm aware that several of my opinions lie to the right of the Lit mainstream.

The Earl

Well me for one - but then you and I are age differences apart and my ideology was formed through the age span you are now living.

That said, I don't think I've every ignored or ridiculed your opinion in favour of my own, that is not me - except with certain people. On the other hand, what really pisses me off is your youth, your AV's and all the idolation you receive





Just kidding.

 

[SensualCealy]

Well me for one - but then you and I are age differences apart and my ideology was formed through the age span you are now living.

That said, I don't think I've every ignored or ridiculed your opinion in favour of my own, that is not me - except with certain people. On the other hand, what really pisses me off is your youth, your AV's and all the idolation you receive





Just kidding.

Start your own thread and you will get yours too! lol
C

 

[oggbashan]

[threadjack]I so wish that people would stop repeating that fallacy against rhetorics. It's like saying that farting into a microphone is a valid method in comedy. Which it is. In juvenile, cheap and generally bad comedy.[/threadjack]

Hey, guy's gotta defend his field, right?

Yet it is a tool of rhetoric, famously used by Cicero in his Verrine Orations - 'That man!'.

It is frequently used in politics e.g. 'Would you buy a used car from this man?'.

It is bad rhetoric yet it still works when used in the right context.

Og

 

[Recidiva]

I'm a fan.

 

[entitled]

I'm a fan.

Does that mean you blow?

*ducks and covers*
Kidding!!! Ow! Ow! Not so hard!

 

[Recidiva]

Does that mean you blow?

*ducks and covers*
Kidding!!! Ow! Ow! Not so hard!

Depends entirely on who you ask and what context the verb is in

 

[entitled]

Depends entirely on who you ask and what context the verb is in

Well, if it was blow 'me' i don't think it would work, so...

 

[ABSTRUSE]

The Diva taught me much about "Getting and being Gotten"

 

[zeb1094]

The Diva taught me much about "Getting and being Gotten"

So we heard!

 

[Recidiva]

The Diva taught me much about "Getting and being Gotten"

She gets me

 

[ABSTRUSE]

So we heard!

The diva is wise.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

She gets me

Ditto my friend.

 

[Aurora Black]

You definitely get it, sweetie.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Yet it is a tool of rhetoric, famously used by Cicero in his Verrine Orations - 'That man!'.

It is frequently used in politics e.g. 'Would you buy a used car from this man?'.

It is bad rhetoric yet it still works when used in the right context.

Og

It works best when spoken, and no one has written it down... Because re-reading a personal attack shows exactly how off the subject it is. "You don't get it" is a ten-year-old taunt. It's the last refuge of a faulty argument.

 

[TheEarl]

Well me for one - but then you and I are age differences apart and my ideology was formed through the age span you are now living.

That said, I don't think I've every ignored or ridiculed your opinion in favour of my own, that is not me - except with certain people. On the other hand, what really pisses me off is your youth, your AV's and all the idolation you receive





Just kidding.

Hurray! Someone who disagrees! I feel happy now. To be honest, you're generally more knowledgeable on most subjects than me anyway, so I argue with you to learn quite often.


Just on a side-note, I dislike my opinions being referenced through the filter of my age. I hold these opinions, because I've formed them from the information I have available. If I have different information, presented skillfully, then my opinions may change (As Colly will attest from the DU debate, where she argued so skillfully).

I am not a child and I am old enough to make my own opinions. I may be young, but my opinions come from the information I have.

Sorry, but that's a pet peeve. Saying that my opinions are due to my age-span is intimating that I'll grow out of them once I learn to think sensibly. I may change them when I get new info, but I'm old enough and ugly enough to think for myself.

The Earl

 

[sophia jane]

Hurray! Someone who disagrees! I feel happy now. To be honest, you're generally more knowledgeable on most subjects than me anyway, so I argue with you to learn quite often.


Just on a side-note, I dislike my opinions being referenced through the filter of my age. I hold these opinions, because I've formed them from the information I have available. If I have different information, presented skillfully, then my opinions may change (As Colly will attest from the DU debate, where she argued so skillfully).

I am not a child and I am old enough to make my own opinions. I may be young, but my opinions come from the information I have.

Sorry, but that's a pet peeve. Saying that my opinions are due to my age-span is intimating that I'll grow out of them once I learn to think sensibly. I may change them when I get new info, but I'm old enough and ugly enough to think for myself.

The Earl

I don't think it's a matter of growing out of your opinions because you're too young to know better; I think it's a matter of age bringing different experiences and thus different views. My politics have changed alot since I was in my early 20's; I've been super liberal, super conservative and now a liberal moderate. So, mostly, I think it's not a criticism of you or a belittling of your opinions (tho there are some who do use it that way).

 

[she_is_my_addiction]

Whoever it was that said you don't "get it", whatever "it" is, probably doesn't get it themselves...and the fact that you DO "get it" made them pissy.

*shrug* Just my thought.

I love ya Earl. If I liked dick I'd have called you by now.