Do you believe in ghosts?

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My sister in law watches this show called Crossing Over, This guy claims he can communicate with the dead or their spirits. She thinks its real I think its nonsense. I figure once your dead,your dead:)
 
It's a schtick based on reading people (something I had to learn to do as a bouncer). Like a fortune teller he goes fast and furious getting as many wrong hits as correct ones until he begins to narrow things down.

Reminds me of the movie where Steve Martin was a faith healer. Someone will have to help me with the name.
 
I agree that he is a bit of a twerp... and his show is 99% hype... but trust me, there are spirits... and they do communicate...


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I think that guy on that show is full of crap, but I do believe that there are lots of things out there that we can't explain.
 
Do I believe in ghosts

Well I'm new here but I like the subject. To answer the question let me put it this way. You are asleep when you wake up you see at the door of your bedroom your brother standing there smiling at you. The he says I thought I would stop by and check to see how things are going. (Normal right ...if you have a brother.) But the difference is he had died 3 years before in a car accident. So the answer is yes I do.
 
Being a sceptic of all things supernatural, including psychics, tarot card readers etc., this is a good discussion subject. On saying that, if we did but know it, I'm sure most of us have a tale to tell, including me. I had a sister that passed away days before her first birthday. Being older than her, I used to see her every night sitting on my bed, able to talk and comfort me....although in her "alive" life, she was too young to talk. Bizarre true, but it happened, as do lots of unexplainable things. Even that sense of deja vu that happens occasionally is usually hard to explain, and not always is the reason for it found.
 
I passed out drunk in the local cemetary and got woken up in the early hours by the police. Who told me I couldn't sleep here, didn't I know this cemetary was haunted? Being a local guy I said, who cares if anything comes out of this graveyard I'm probably related.
 
Well...here's my story, since you asked. Take it for what it's worth:

When I was born, I was the first grandchild and great grandchild of our immediate family. My mom's dad's dad......(my great grandfather) and I had an immediate connection. He was a very large, gruff old man....as round as he was tall...who I now find out in my older days that they referred to affectionately as "Grumpy". (I guess he had quite an mean demeanor about him)

Nonetheless....for whatever the reason, he took an immediate liking to me. Which was unusual, since he typically didn't care for kids, or babies in general. My family wrote off his sudden change of heart to the fact that I was his first great-grandchild.

When I was about 9 months old, he died. Now..fast forward ahead about 5 years and as a child I begin seeing "monsters" at the end of my bed at night. It was a nightly routine for awhile: The "Monster" would show up at the end of my bed, and come around to the left side and try and "get me". I later determined that it wasn't trying to "get me", but rather it was trying to talk to me and tell me something. Also that it wasn't a monster...it was a man. Either way, I'd dart out the right side...run to my parent's room...and they'd come put me back into bed.

Well..this went on nightly for a few weeks, until my mother began to wonder if I had something significantly wrong with me. So..she began to read up on child psychology books and the like, to try and help me lose my fear of these (what she thought) nightmares I was having.

She read a book that said that when the child wakes up...s/he should tell the monster to go away...and with repetition, I would come to not be scared, yada yada yada.

So...that night, I did that very thing. My parents stayed up to listen in. A couple hours after I had falled asleep my mother heard me say to the man standing there: "Go away....I don't need you here anymore....leave me alone!" And with that, I went to bed, and slept the night away.

The next morning she talked to me over breakfast, and evidentally I was rather pleased with myself that I had scared the man away. My mother, pressing the matter asked me to tell her what this "man " looked like...and I described my great-grandfather down to his favorite shirt, ball cap....and general size. She then pulled out a picture of "Grump" and immediately I was hysterical...because that was the monster I had been seeing.

Now..that would be odd enough, but in our home we've always had a grandfather clock that my *dad's dad had handmade. The night that I told "Grump" to go away, and for the following seven nights, that clock stopped at 3:10 in the morning, the exact time that "Grump" passed away. We had the clock looked at, and it was found to be in perfect working order. After the seven days, it returned to it's normal running condition. And....that was the last of it.

Of course now, with time passed...I've always wondered what he had to "tell" me. It must of been important, I'd guess. But...nonetheless, I'm a firm believer in "Ghosts" as it were.

Sorry for the length of the post...but again, you asked!
V~
 
WTF? Has the earth's magnetic field suddenly shifted? Why are AJ and I agreeing on things all of a sudden?

Cold Reading is a simple magic technique. Actually, he's not really even a very good cold reader, because he relies so much on guiding the Marks and getting them to reveal the information he's too dense to gleam himself. I've done it myself, many times, always in a comedy forum, though I've often thought about putting together a real head magic ("psychic") act, just to see if I could.

For every ghost story I hear I suggest that there are at least 20 other more reasonable explanations than "a dead guy came back". It's a measure of how desperatley we need to believe that that the "I" of ourselves goes on after death that we immediately leap past the more likely expalantions and settle, happily, in the lap of the reassuring supernatural. (Ghosts = Life After Death = Immortality = I go on and on and on...)

Be wary of any scenario that sets homo sapien above nature -- you never see any ghost termites, collies, or stegasauruses.
 
Sorry....my religious beliefs get inthe way here. If you're inclined to ridicule, pass this post by. If religious stuff tweaks you, pass by.

I believe that once you're dear, that's it. No more roaming around on this earth. That's a pretty solid Biblical teaching.

However, I believe it to be in the best interests of the Devil and his boys to have folks believing that ghosts exist, thereby debunking the Bible's teaching. So, you have a boatload of demons running about who'd have no problem posing as the ghosts of dearly departed, restless dead, and what-have-you, to provide "proof" that what I believe is wrong.

Make sense? That's only my theory. I don't think it's the theory of any church, though it does make a spooky kind of sense.
 
Ghosts

Oh myn yes, I believe in them- I have actually seen one- no joke- not making this up.

It was in an old apratment building in downtown Indianapolis on the 10th floor (top)

It was a gray shadow in a very well lit hall- about the size of a little kid and it was just sitting on the steps going to the roof- the door to roof had been blocked off long ago-

Then I started to get images in my head of what happened to the kid-

He was about 6 years old and he was playing on the roof and his mom called him down for dinner. He slipped on the steps and had a severe skull fracture. (which would explain the very large shape of the head on the shadow)

The poor little ghost was so bored he had been there for over 50 years.

I said a prayer to God to send an angel down to take him home and then I saw something that looked like a little puff of smoke going upwards. And the hall way had a very happy energy to it. :D
 
Dixie I wouldn't be to sure of that

In my last apratment I used to see the ghost of a cat pretty frequently.

It liked to visit me in the bathroom for some reason and used to rub against my legs- now if that isn't an odd sensation I don't know what is.

And no it wasn't my cat- it was the lady who used to live there- she moved to the apartment below mine- I asked her if she used to have a cat and descriped it to her and she said yes it was her cat- she had to have it put to sleep when it got old.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
you never see any ghost termites, collies, or stegasauruses.

There's a joke here somehere... I just can't come up with it right now.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:

For every ghost story I hear I suggest that there are at least 20 other more reasonable explanations than "a dead guy came back". It's a measure of how desperatley we need to believe that that the "I" of ourselves goes on after death that we immediately leap past the more likely expalantions and settle, happily, in the lap of the reassuring supernatural. (Ghosts = Life After Death = Immortality = I go on and on and on...)


And...Dixon, my logical portion agrees with you about there being more reasonable explanations. I've tried to tell myself that it was just a "childhood fantasy"...or that it was truly a bad dream. And...I'm the first one to be skeptical about a person's story when I hear it.

That being said....I'm not one of those people who believe that I necessarily " go on" after death. So, as far as the act of desperately wanting to continue on another plane....is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

I guess....it is whatever it is. If it was a ghost, so be it. If it was a dream, so be it. Everyone has their own theory....and facts are, I'm not *always the most rational person....so I could be just as full of shit as the "Crossing Over" guy. lol

Regards,
V~
 
No you're not. You're like the rest of us, curious, questioning, wondering, searching for the experience of being alive; Edwards is a scam artist.
 
Dixon Carter Lee said:
No you're not. You're like the rest of us, curious, questioning, wondering, searching for the experience of being alive; Edwards is a scam artist.

Oh...I'm quite curious. And...you're so right....

Edwards is a scam. I rate him almost as low as Miss Clio. lol
V~
 
The truth....probably

Here's the thing about the supernatural (I hate that word, but there it is).
There is no proof, there never will be, you either believe or you don't.
People have a tallent for explaining away things they don't want to accept, and an equal gift for grasping onto the spiritual when they need to believe in something beyond reason.
The truth, as it usually does, probably lies somewhere in between. But most people aren't going to see that because people, by nature, are extremists.
 
I've seen one ghost that I couldn't find any other explanation for.
 
I don't believe in ghosts or paranormal activities, whatever you want to call it, either. I suppose it has something to do with rationality and trying to find other "proveable" explanations, but it is very true that there are times when we just can't find alternative explanations for what we experience.

What it comes down to for me is perfectly summarized in a quote by someone who I am otherwise quite unlikely to agree with: Virginia Mollenkott, Ph. D., who is a Christian philosopher (?). She has an online article about abortion that I found fascinating because she took the same stance I do, but from a Christian perspective. Now that's talent. Anyway, in the aforementioned article (which can be found at http://www.rcrc.org/religion/es1/es1.html) she says the following: "It is our responsibility to work with what we know rather than with what we cannot know."

We cannot know whether ghosts exist for sure, no matter what paranormal scientist people say; we cannot know that miracles happen; we cannot know that some part of our consciousness as individuals somehow "survives" death (which is oxymoronic in and of itself) to continue on in some form in an afterlife... The list goes on and on, and I could go into further detail if anyone cared, but my point is that I try to put my faith in what I know is there rather than what I thought I saw/experienced, whatever. Don't get all weird on me and tell me that we can't truly know that anything is "there" or real, because that's just something philosophers made up to have some more material for their daily mental masturbation sessions.

Hell, my tune might change if I ever had a "paranormal" experience, but I won't hold my breath. I have far more important things to do with my life.
 
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