Do Women Hate Men?

[jeffreysub]

I know this is an age old question but it's something that has been diffenately burning within my mind for the last few weeks. I am feeling extremely unloved right now and have this desire to be with a woman but at this point it seems like it's almost an impossable dream. I don't know why I am exactly posting this but it's been something that's been bothering me!

Every woman I've tried to get with seems to think that I am after only one thing (which maybe true but jeesh what happened to friendship). It just seems like more and more women hate guys nowadays than ever!

Sorry I am whinning here but I feel like it... It seems like this always happens near Valentines day. I swear I wish that stupid holiday never existed, it just seems to be another holiday for the masses to show off that they have someone and I don't.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Sometimes life sucks. The problem as I see it from a need female friends angle is that you are too hung up on the sex. It's quite easy to have quite a number of female friends if you don't make a point of lusting after them and treat them just like all your other friends. I'd say, if I include Lit, a majority of my current friends are female. They know me and I treat them just like a person. I stand up for them when they need standing up for just as I do for my male friends and I pitifully fail to comfort when they need consolence.

So, what they say has truth, if a true female friend is what you seek and not a nookie for the night, then you need to not focus on the one thing.

If it is having a girlfriend while lonely, that's a whole 'nother deal. I myself have not once had a gf on VDay and this year is no exception even though it had seemed like it wouldn't be the case (long story).

My mantra for dealing is be patient and something will come and remember to masturbate frequently so your sex drive doesn't get cranked up.

Good luck. And welcome.

 

[sweetnpetite]

straight women hate men.

gay women don't care.



Seriously- I think more people are alone on V-day than matched up. It just seems like everyone is in a couple because you're not.

Yes, women will think you are after one thing until you convince them otherwise. For some it takes a lot of convincing. Once bitten, twice shy and all that. Other women will want that same one thing and you're all set.

I saw a movie or something were the mom said "Remember, men only want one thing?"

The daugher then asked, "What's wrong with that?"

To which mom replied, "They never want it when you do!"

Laughter is the best medicine they say. There are many lonely here right now, and I think not a few threads on which they are all comiserating. Join on in.

 

[feminine mystique]

hey all, i just thought i would put my two cents in. when i read your posts they made me laugh, because you are all absolutely right. women really do hate men, not because women dont want men but simply because men can be annoying and a waste of time, especially if they make it particularly obvious that all they are after is sex.

dont get me wrong, sex is good, i wish there was someone here right now, even some kissing or some type of affection would be nice. im obviously single, and in need of some physical action however that doesnt mean i just want to have sex with anyone.

i think some effort is needed, being nice and not acting like your going to pounce on every woman you see might also help too. but i do sympathise cause valentines day is particularly rough, it seems everyone has someone and your the only person who is going unloved, but we all have to deal with it. anyways im sure theres someone out there that likes you, you just have to find them, not an easy task, but at least your not completely devoid of having anyone and if your really desperate for sex, then pay for it.

ok well all of you have a lovely day.

 

[jeffreysub]

Well I certianly know that straight women hate men and that gay women don't care (why would they?)

However I was of course refering to bi and straight women. Bi women seem to hate men slightly more than straight women or at least it sure seems that way! No offense to the bi girls out there but I've dated a few and every one seemed to have this silent grudge agians't guys. As for having many female friends I've been there done that and whats more I'm glad I don't have alot of female friends anymore. Of course I enjoyed their companionship but they were driving me nuts after all the games and plus all of the freaking drama!

Of course I still remember them from time to time but since I moved out of that area I've moved on. Besides all they did was bitch about their problems and when I mentioned mine as lucifer_carrol said they just simply ignored most of them. Only a few seemed to care but that was all.

To make it short and to the point I really don't want just female friends and as much as I hate to say this I would just like a GODDAMN relationship for once in a lifetime without those little 'mightier than thou' looks it gets annoying!

Sorry for all the ranting...

 

[shereads]

"Women hate men" is no more accurate than "hamsters hate basketballs." Sure, if a hamster has had a bad experience with a basketball, she's not going to invite another one to bounce on top of her.

I was sharing a Sunday newspaper once with a male friend, and there was an article about a girl in a village somewhere in Africa, who had gone to court to stop her male relatives from turning her over to be raped by the family of a woman who'd been raped by this girl's brother. It was news because the court agreed to consider her case.

I asked my friend, half-jokingly, "Why do men hate women so much?"

He said, "That's easy. It's because we need your permission to have sex."



My point is that the same question is asked by the other side. But what's true in a cultural and historic and religious sense - that there is a war between the sexes - tends not to be true in individual relationships. Not if there's honesty and some skill at communicating.

We - men and women - don't hate people who befriend us and treat us with honesty. We are likely to be wary of the opposite sex as friends, for the reason that sex is hanging in the air like an unanswered question. Until you know someone extremely well, neither of you knows if the other finds you sexually attractive, and if they do, will they press the issue against your wishes? Will you have to hurt their feelings? It can make both people uncomfortable. Is it any wonder that women make friends so easily with gay men? The question mark isn't there.

A lot of the "war between the sexes" on the personal level stems from the fact that women and men communicate differently and for different purposes. As pop-psychology books like "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" will tell you, men communicate to solve problems and achieve status; women communicate to strengthen personal bonds, and we do a lot of our communicating without words.

That leads to big problems, when one of us is feeling upset about something, and instead of just telling you, we expect you to understand the way another woman would - based on body language and facial expressions and the fact that we're not answering your phone calls after the second ring.

Honest to god, I once punished a boyfriend for a week by not speaking to him, because he had hurt my feelings. At the end of the week when he came by the house - not to apologize and beg my forgiveness, but in a perfectly normal mood - I realized that he hadn't known I wasn't speaking to him.



The bastard!

He also hadn't had a clue that my feelings were hurt. I wasted a lot of energy being angry when I could have just told him he'd hurt my feelings.

Different languages, boys and girls. Really. If you wanted to live in Paris for a year, you'd learn French. By the same token, it's worth studying how the other half of the species communicates. It can be an eye opener. Any of the kazillion books on the topic will help.

I'm at least one divorce and one long-term ex-relationship ahead of most of you in this thread, I'm willing to bet, and while I can name a couple of men I hate, none of them are men I was involved with. I hated some of the bad times that led to the end of those relationships, and at the time I may have thought I hated the person. But in retrospect, there was never anything done to me without my permission, and when I felt used it was also true that I was doing some using on my own.

Btw, dogs don't hate cats, either. My dog likes cats because unlike some of her dog friends, cats always want to play the chasing game. Or so she's learned to believe. The bitch likes pussy, but pussy thinks the bitch is chasing her 'cause she hates her. Live and learn.

 

[NoJo]

Every woman I've tried to get with seems to think that I am after only one thing (which maybe true but jeesh what happened to friendship).

Wow, jeffrysub, that's a really stupid (and funny) thing to say. It shows that you need to separate sex from friendship with the opposite gender, something women can do much better than us (the cunts).

Until you stop thinking about women as just a pussy on legs, you won't get any pussy on legs. It's one of the deliciously ironic Catch 22's that women lay on men, and quite frankly my sub side adores them for it.

 

[shereads]

Wow, jeffrysub, that's a really stupid (and funny) thing to say. It shows that you need to separate sex from friendship with the opposite gender, something women can do much better than us (the cunts).

Until you stop thinking about women as just a pussy on legs, you won't get any pussy on legs. It's one of the deliciously ironic Catch 22's that women lay on men, and quite frankly my sub side adores them for it.

Oh. I thought we were just telling jeffrysub how to make friends with women. If it's sex he wants, that's a mystery for the ages. It is, in fact, a Catch 22. Because as you said, we want men to think of us as more than just pussy on legs. But when the chemistry is right, a man can snap his fingers and say, "Yo. Legs. Get that pussy over here." And we'll just melt.

Or maybe that was just me.

The sex thing. <shivers> You can read all of Literotica and not figure that one out until you meet someone whose pheromones reach out and shake hands with your pheremones. When the chemistry is right, she'll wrestle you to the ground and have her way with you. If she hates you, she'll tell you so when she's finished.

The friendship thing is easy: she needs to learn to spit from truck windows, and he needs to take up dollmaking as a hobby.

 

[Guest]

Wow, jeffrysub, that's a really stupid (and funny) thing to say. It shows that you need to separate sex from friendship with the opposite gender, something women can do much better than us (the cunts).

Until you stop thinking about women as just a pussy on legs, you won't get any pussy on legs. It's one of the deliciously ironic Catch 22's that women lay on men, and quite frankly my sub side adores them for it.

Thank you, Joe.


Jeffrysub, you said, "Well I certianly know that straight women hate men and that gay women don't care (why would they?)."

Straight women hate men!?!? WTF?

Please don't generalise like that. This straight woman adores men.

In fact, I don't think I hate anyone - hate is a very powerful and detrimental word. There are some people I like, some people I dislike, some who I love. But, remember, I said "people" - men and women alike.

In fact, I tend to get on better with men than I do women. Maybe because I'm a horny natured fucker, like a lot of men are.

Perhaps you should stop labeling all women as "men-haters" and take a long look at yourself. You obviously have quite a tainted view of women.

Lou

 

[neonlyte]

leaving aside the obvious folly in saying "all straight women hate men", it strikes me your problem is not having found a woman that likes you.

Start from the inside, learn to like yourself and work out from there.

 

[NoJo]

leaving aside the obvious folly in saying "all straight women hate men", it strikes me your problem is not having found a woman that likes you.

Start from the inside, learn to like yourself and work out from there.

Very true, Neonlite-San.

It's good practice to stand in front of the mirror, playing with your dick and bigging yourself up wih little phrases like "aren't you the handsome one.."

 

[elsol]

When it's a women hate men situation...

I usually find it's actually that the woman hates ONE man, and the rest of us are getting caught in the crossfire.

Also don't confuse disappointment with hatred... both can be worked against but disappointment is both easier to combat and harder to avoid doing MORE damage.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[brightlyiburn]

leaving aside the obvious folly in saying "all straight women hate men", it strikes me your problem is not having found a woman that likes you.

Anyone else thinking there might be a good reason for that?

Seriously, "hate" is a very inaccurate word. Distrust might be better. If I hated men, I wouldn't be chasing after the cute guy from the hardware store.

 

[sincerely_helene]

I just want to know what happened to the hamster.

 

[NoJo]

I can't find the word "hamster" anywhere on this thread.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I know a few women who hate men. They are a minority. By and large, women don't hate men any more than men hate women. All the stereotyping aside, most folks pick and choose whom to like or dislike for reasons more personal than their gender.

I think your problem is that you are too cught up in having sex. Relax. Women can tell when you are just after sex and believe me, it's a turn off. It adds a lot of pressure to regular situations.

I'm going to reccomend a book to you, the Sensuous man, by M I think. It's the counterpart to the sensuous woman and the author has a pretty good handle on relationships. I reccomnd it because it includes a section on really wanting/needing sex, that was so dead on I was amazed it was written by a fellow.

good luck

 

[cantdog]

I know this is an age old question but it's something that has been diffenately burning within my mind for the last few weeks. I am feeling extremely unloved right now and have this desire to be with a woman but at this point it seems like it's almost an impossable dream. I don't know why I am exactly posting this but it's been something that's been bothering me!

Every woman I've tried to get with seems to think that I am after only one thing (which maybe true but jeesh what happened to friendship). It just seems like more and more women hate guys nowadays than ever!

Sorry I am whinning here but I feel like it... It seems like this always happens near Valentines day. I swear I wish that stupid holiday never existed, it just seems to be another holiday for the masses to show off that they have someone and I don't.

A single man once moped that it was always feast or famine. Then I looked at his defeated body language. His fellows in the room agreed with him and they all looked hangdog. One of them narrated a defeat freshly endured, and his posture and facial expression screamed "Desperate! I'm completely fucking desperate!"

The feast part comes when you're getting laid regular. You unlax, you feel the world is copacetic, your spine straightens and you lounge expansively, projecting confidence and ease.

I don't think we have to look any deeper when it's a matter of sexual attraction than the old familiar ape-troop nonverbal signals, dude.

Most of that chemistry is midbrain stuff, lower than your conscious intellect.

So put on the fuckin dog. Walk as if to unseen music and be the man of the fuckin hour. Confidence and ease make charm come naturally. But if you look woebegone and desperate, they will avoid you until a "pity fuck" breaks the chain.

Ook ook.

cantdog

 

[Boota]

I can't help here. Chicks dig me. I have no idea why.

I have a lot of female friends, though. I didn't go seeking female friends, it just worked out that way. It might be that I'm so in touch with my feminie side. I like money better than sex.

 

[rgraham666]

Having trouble working up much sympathy.

It's been 15 years since the last time I got any. And I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen again since I think I'm more likely to win the lottery.

But that says nothing about the quality of person I am. I don't need a woman in my life to validate my existence.

 

[NoJo]

Having trouble working up much sympathy.

It's been 15 years since the last time I got any. And I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen again since I think I'm more likely to win the lottery.

But that says nothing about the quality of person I am. I don't need a woman in my life to validate my existence.

or your parking.

But having a woman in one's life is very different from getting some action. In some cases, they're almost opposite...

 

[cantdog]

In the case of inactive women?

 

[jeffreysub]

Maybe some people are jumping to conclusions about me just wanting sex. Yes that's part of what I want but I'd also like to have some female friends. It seems that most of the oppisite gender around here aren't interested in friendship. Some guys do indeed have an easier time in making female friends.

I guess I just need to open up alot more and get to talking to women. I just wish I knew what to say without sounding like a complete idiot.

 

[NoJo]

I think what a lot of people are saying on this thread is that sex keeps on rearing its ugly head. Pretend they're guys.

 

[shereads]

Very true, Neonlite-San.

It's good practice to stand in front of the mirror, playing with your dick and bigging yourself up wih little phrases like "aren't you the handsome one.."

Okay, now I hate at least one man: the one who make me inhale a mouthful of Red Bull into my sinuses.

I'm shaking my fist. Expletive! Muttered threats.

 

[NoJo]

Sher, your avatar is really nice. It's f 2.8 with 1/250 second exposure and bounce flash, isn't it?