Dixon Carter Lee

[Todd]

Whats our, as the human race, purpose?

Also i found a place where you can make $250,000 dollars if you can prove evolution, I'll give you the site if you give me $50,000 of the money you win.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Define "purpose" and "prove".

Clearly.

 

[Laurel]

A purpose is a sea mammal with a longish snout and a notoriously friendly disposition.

Not so sure about the other one, though.

 

[Rosebud]

ROFLMAO that is why I love you Madam Laurel

 

[alexander tzara]

Hi, Todd. We're here to keep an eye on the dolphins and not ask too many questions. Proof of evolution: I managed to trace my family tree back to a flock of pterodactyls. Through the millennia we've lost our tremendous wings and snapping beaks, although we do still squawk loudly when threatened.

Cough up the cash!

 

[Bs]

Laurel, for shame why don't you know where "prove" is you being the world travler!




..... for those that don't .... it is in the Kybishstan region just north of Oblish....

but you knew that.....

 

[Todd]

This is what the page ask in order to get $250,000

If you promise to share $50,000 I will give you the link.

I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief.



Observed phenomena:

Most thinking people will agree that--
1. A highly ordered universe exists.
2. At least one planet in this complex universe contains an amazing variety of life forms.
3. Man appears to be the most advanced form of life on this planet.

Known options:

Choices of how the observed phenomena came into being--
1. The universe was created by God.
2. The universe always existed.
3. The universe came into being by itself by purely natural processes (known as evolution) so that no appeal to the supernatural is needed.

Evolution has been acclaimed as being the only process capable of causing the observed phenomena.

Evolution is presented in our public school textbooks as a process that:

1. Brought time, space, and matter into existence from nothing.
2. Organized that matter into the galaxies, stars, and at least nine planets around the sun. (This process is often referred to as cosmic evolution.)
3. Created the life that exists on at least one of those planets from nonliving matter (chemical evolution).
4. Caused the living creatures to be capable of and interested in reproducing themselves.
5. Caused that first life form to spontaneously diversify into different forms of living things, such as the plants and animals on the earth today (biological evolution).

People believe in evolution; they do not know that it is true. While beliefs are certainly fine to have, it is not fair to force on the students in our public school system the teaching of one belief, at taxpayers’ expense. It is my contention that evolutionism is a religious worldview that is not supported by science, Scripture, popular opinion, or common sense. The exclusive teaching of this dangerous, mind-altering philosophy in tax-supported schools, parks, museums, etc., is also a clear violation of the First Amendment.


How to collect the $250,000:
Prove beyond reasonable doubt that the process of evolution (option 3 above, under "known options") is the only possible way the observed phenomena could have come into existence. Only empirical evidence is acceptable. Persons wishing to collect the $250,000 may submit their evidence in writing or schedule time for a public presentation. A committee of trained scientists will provide peer review of the evidence offered and, to the best of their ability, will be fair and honest in their evaluation and judgment as to the validity of the evidence presented.

If you are convinced that evolution is an indisputable fact, may I suggest that you offer $250,000 for any empirical or historical evidence against the general theory of evolution. This might include the following:

1. The earth is not billions of years old (thus destroying the possibility of evolution having happened as it is being taught).
2. No animal has ever been observed changing into any fundamentally different kind of animal.
3. No one has ever observed life spontaneously arising from nonliving matter.
4. Matter cannot make itself out of nothing.


My suggestion:
Proponents of the theory of evolution would do well to admit that they believe in evolution, but they do not know that it happened the way they teach. They should call evolution their "faith" or "religion," and stop including it in books of science. Give up faith in the silly religion of evolutionism, and trust the God of the Bible (who is the Creator of this universe and will be your Judge, and mine, one day soon) to forgive you and to save you from the coming judgment on man’s sin.

* NOTE:
When I use the word evolution, I am not referring to the minor variations found in all of the various life forms (microevolition). I am referring to the general theory of evolution which believes these five major events took place without God:

Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves.
Planets and stars formed form space dust.
Matter created life by itself.
Early life-forms learned to reproduce themselves.
Major changes occurred between these diverse life forms (i.e., fish changed to amphibians, amphibians changed to reptiles, and reptiles changed to birds or mammals).

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

This is my point, Todd. The post above gave or implied at least five different definitions for "evolution", and not one of them was correct. Do you see the difficulty here? No one can possibly collect the money, because the rules are set up to favor the house. By making "evolution" responsible for everything from the Big Bang to the appendix the money guy is asking for a research paper the size of the Congressional Library, with a billion subjective and undefined terms for him to utilize towards his cause.

As for "proof", Lord God I'm not making this -- try the entire fucking fossil record. There IS no greater proof for any theory in the history of science.

I'm not going to argue this with you because you're doing what you always do --ignore evidence, use sloppy critical thinking, and refuse to define your terms for debate.

It's like what the Amazing Randi once said about people who believe in the supernatural -- there's no use arguing with them because they're like rubber ducks -- you can shoot a hundred holes in them and they're still gonna float.

 

[Todd]

well write them a short post here of how to correct there 5 different definitions and I will email it to them and take the flack and let you know what they say if they will correct it.

Dagnavit I want that money , help me out here.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Todd,

If you really want some help, go here and spend some time:

http://www.csicop.org/si/

 

[Todd]

But you already know it all in these fields I am only asking 1/5th of the money.

I didn't understand any of the scientific stuff even when I was an athiest, you expect my feeble superstious, mythological brain to be able to understand it now?

Thats why I am coming to you. You got all this stuff lock stock and barrel like the back of your hand. plus the whole rubber ducky theorom, thats why I need you.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You're right. First you need to learn how to read. I said it above -- no one is going to ever get the money.

Haven't you ever been to Vegas?

 

[Todd]

You're right. First you need to learn how to read. I said it above -- no one is going to ever get the money.

Haven't you ever been to Vegas?

not in its present form, but if something is formulated to make thier proposal more doable then there is a better chance.

 

[jcgirl]

oh geez

http://www.angelfire.com/art/avatarfactory/images/JcGirl.gif

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

That's like saying if we just tell the Pope that when people die they pretty much can't come back three days later that maybe he'll change the rules of Redemption.

Not gonna happen.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

oh geez

Sorry. Prefer a good cum taste thread, do you?

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You're right. First you need to learn how to read. I said it above -- no one is going to ever get the money.

Haven't you ever been to Vegas?

 

[jcgirl]

oh geez

Sorry. Prefer a good cum taste thread, do you?

No, I have a tad more substanance that that smartass.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

The accent should be on the word "smart".

 

[jcgirl]

Oh, I do apologize. However, I do believe that my insinuation was that you were an ass. Let me rephrase than....


SmartAss

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

*sigh*

jc you break into a thread in which you're not involved and post two words like "oh geez" that can mean any one hundred things, all of which osund like insults. Now, what sort of response were you going for here? I gave you a funny one. You took it badly. But you began this. I have no quarrel with you. What was the "oh geez" for, and did I take it wrong? If so -- sorry. But you can't just post and run like that, and not expect a smart ass response. Okay?

 

[jcgirl]

Thats a common response of mine to any of Todds threads. Was not pointed at you. Your the one that took it upon yourself to comment.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Here's another one for you, Todd. http://skepdic.com/refuge/weird.html

There's an espcially good (and detailed) section on evolution, and the arguments put forth by the Creationsists.

 

[jcgirl]

And trust me. When I insult I do it blatantly. It takes a lot to warrant an insult from me. so your free.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

jc -- I don't know your common responses. And the thread title is my name. I'm having a discussion with Todd. I think you can see that there's lots of room here for misunderstanding and confusion. Okay?