Disturbing trend?

[rgraham666]

Who said I wasn't acknowledging that affirmative action wasn't a blight on society? I was just saying that the causes behind black people generally getting lower test results might not be genetic.

I recall reading a report on education levels in Japan many years ago.

For those of you that don't know Japan is very homogenous genetically and very divided on class lines.

The classes are pretty much descended from feudal times. The wealthy tend to be descendants of the old samurai families. The middle class from merchants and artisans. The lowest, the burakumin, are descended from the eta, the people that handled dead bodies and garbage in feudal times.

They are the lowest of the low in Japanese society. Often, when you get married, your spouse's family will check you out. If there's even a hint of burakumin in your family's background, the wedding's off.

The education and literacy rates of the burakumin are almost exactly the same as those in the poorer inner city areas of the U.S., whom I believe are largely black.

There is no difference 'racially' between the burakumin and the rest of Japan. Economically, there's a significant difference.

So any differences between two sets of human being are almost certainly because of cultural differences.

 

[amicus]

Well,Cloudy...you started this thread about two teenaged girls making bookuu bucks on a gimmick and I am sure you have a reason...ahem...yes, I see right into your soul ya lil redskin squaw.

Why did you start this thread anyway? Would you have done one about Indian run Casino's or Italian run Mafia things, or Jewish Intellectuals or Black Power advocates or Hispanic plans to annex southwest America?

You have an agenda and a motive here, obvious and blantant to me, if not all, to promote your particular mindset, fine, do so, that is what a public forum is all about. But when challenged, if you revert to retorts other than rational, you become easily identifiable as a propogandist and not someone interested in dialogue.


amicus

 

[cloudy]

Well,Cloudy...you started this thread about two teenaged girls making bookuu bucks on a gimmick and I am sure you have a reason...ahem...yes, I see right into your soul ya lil redskin squaw.

Why did you start this thread anyway? Would you have done one about Indian run Casino's or Italian run Mafia things, or Jewish Intellectuals or Black Power advocates or Hispanic plans to annex southwest America?

You have an agenda and a motive here, obvious and blantant to me, if not all, to promote your particular mindset, fine, do so, that is what a public forum is all about. But when challenged, if you revert to retorts other than rational, you become easily identifiable as a propogandist and not someone interested in dialogue.


amicus

I said what I thought about the subject in my first post. Nowhere did I say anything about the white race being racially superior, inferior, or whatever.

You started that. Take credit for it.

btw: eugenics has been proven to be false. I'm really sorry to destroy your illusions, but facts are facts.

 

[rgraham666]

I said what I thought about the subject in my first post. Nowhere did I say anything about the white race being racially superior, inferior, or whatever.

You started that. Take credit for it.

btw: eugenics has been proven to be false. I'm really sorry to destroy your illusions, but facts are facts.

Since when have facts ever gotten in the way of our friends belief?

 

[Pure]

Thus rather than acknowedging that 90% of African Americans are in college only because of racial quota's,

on your way to getting a college degree--some positions now saved for underachieving white trailer park boys-- learn to spell and write.

 

[TheEarl]

btw: eugenics has been proven to be false. I'm really sorry to destroy your illusions, but facts are facts.

Just in the interests of fairness, I have to question that. Surely eugenics pure and unsullied is the study of the differences between races, of which there are definitely a few.

Can you provide any info on who's proven eugenics to be false?

The Earl

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I see all kinds of shock and outrage over two little white girls making money on a gimmick record CD.

Yet I see no shock or outrage over all the money the self-proclaimed 'gangsta' rap artists singing, if you can call that singing, about killing whity and the man (police).

You're all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[tanyachrs]

You know, tanyachrs, I am going to take exception to your post. I went to some length to note that I was not a racist

I missed the part where I mentioned you at all.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

unrelated to all the fighting on here...do not drag me into your bullshit.

Dammit...I hate shit like this. I want to DO something. I wish we all had the power to move some mighty mountains out there together. I checked Ares for songs to download by P.B. and only one listing came back to me. That's some kind of good...I hope.

*sigh*



ETA: if you quote me and start an argument or make a smart comment, i don't care how much i like you at this point. you will go on ignore. permanently.

 

[Liar]

This is kinda interresting. Gell is a jewish reporter for GQ Magazine, interviewing the nerfarious bubblegum tween duo.


A long article, so I only quote a part of it. Read it in full here:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_4207


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Minor Threat
Lamb and Lynx Gaede are like a lot of 13-year-old girls. Except that they love Hitler and sing songs glorifying white supremacy. Aaron Gell confronts ethnic cleansing’s hottest act, Prussian Blue

By Aaron Gell

On October 20, when Lamb and Lynx Gaede, the 13-year-old white-nationalist twins known as Prussian Blue, were having their Cinderella moment on ABC’s Primetime, the girls weren’t even watching themselves on TV. Their grandpa, Fresno-area rancher Bill Gaede, was taping the show while the twins and their mom, April Gaede, were down at the local haunted hayride getting the bejesus scared out of them by evil clowns. “For some reason,” April observes, “clowns are just really scary.”

It’s that eerie combination of darkness and light, of goofy innocence and twisted menace, that makes Prussian Blue like a scary clown, which might explain why the sparkly eighth graders have been transformed into internationally recognized spokeskids for hate.

The morning after the Primetime debut, the Gaedes’ phone wouldn’t stop ringing. Grandpa Bill had gotten a taste of fame himself not long before (for taking a chain saw to a tree near his property that was drawing crowds due to its resemblance to the Virgin Mary), but that was nothing compared with what the girls had stirred up. “The call-waiting was like beep-beep-beep,” April reports. “Every single news thing that you’ve ever heard of called us.”

Dr. Phil’s people left a message, she says. And Paula Zahn’s. Newsweek. Good Morning America. Elle Girl. The Los Angeles Times. The booker for Maury even sent flowers, as though the Gaedes would really fall for something like that. April ignored them all, planning to lie low for a while. She relented only for Teen People (the girls begged her), especially after, she says, someone at the magazine offered to do an “as told to” piece that April could see before it went to press.

“Primetime mainstreamed us!” April marvels. “I don’t think a white-pride band has ever gotten this kind of media attention before. I mean, these two girls have become some of the most powerful people in white nationalism.”

The news wasn’t all good, however. April’s ex-husband Kris Richard Lingelser was soon enjoying a bit of limelight, too, telling Inside Edition he was planning to sue for custody of his daughters. Then the Teen People story was killed after the terms of the offer were reported in the press.

Still, e-mail to the Prussian Blue Web site was running three-quarters positive, April estimates. The really nice letters got printed out and put in a binder, Lamb says, “so if we ever get bummed out because someone says, ‘I wish you would die,’ there’s some positive stuff to look at.”

*****

Several weeks before the Primetime segment aired, I arrived in Bakersfield, California, where April and the girls then lived, to watch Prussian Blue perform at the nearby Kern County Fair. April had sneaked her daughters onto the bill without revealing their political affiliations. “The kids’ songs will be enjoyed by all types and races, with no knowledge they are listening to some Skrewdriver,” she said, referring to the ’80s British neo-Nazi band. “We did this last year, and it was kind of funny to see everyone listening to the girls’ message and the confused looks on some of their faces.”

Though they seem like a matching set to the untrained eye, the girls—who like to append a diminutive -ie to their names—are actually fraternal twins. “Lynx tends to be more of the girlie-girlie glamour girl,” April tells me, “and Lamb is more the sporty rock ’n’ roller.” They are in the first bud of womanhood—pretty and blond, with braces on their teeth, a layer of baby fat softening their features. They can toggle in an instant between giggling maniacally at some secret joke and moping around the house, sighing in boredom.

Mostly, however, the new standard-bearers for the white race are just big doofuses, in that cross-eyed way that only 13-year-olds, swimming in hormones and anxious about growing up, can be. They like Avril Lavigne and the Killers and playing with their 15-month-old half sister, Dresden. Another current pastime is swapping lines from Napoleon Dynamite: “What are you gonna do today, Napoleon?” April asks, to which the girls reply in unison, “Whatever I feel like I want to do—gosh!”

Typical kids, for the most part—except for the odd visit from the FBI, which showed up recently looking for copies of mash notes the girls had received from Matthew Hale, the former self-proclaimed pontifex maximus of the World Church of the Creator (now serving a forty-year prison sentence for soliciting the murder of a federal judge). That, and the fact that they would really like it if white people could have their very own nation (the Pacific Northwest would be awesome), free from the degenerate and corrupting influence of Jews, blacks, and other “muds,” the neat catchall applied to basically everyone else. They live in fear that rampant race mixing will put blue-eyed blonds on the endangered-species list within a few generations. And if it takes a race war to preserve their people and make, say, Portland, Oregon, a whiter shade of pale, well, let’s get it on.

This fantasy is a leitmotif of their songs. On “Victory Day,” from Prussian Blue’s debut record, Fragment of the Future, the girls apply their tremulous voices to a heartfelt ode to “a great war, a bloody but holy day.” When I ask Lamb about the song, she says, “Um…well, that was a cover of Rahowa,” referring to a defunct Canadian white-power band whose name stood for Racial Holy War. How does she interpret it? She knits her brow. “I think, you know, if there was a war between the races,” she says tentatively, “hopefully everybody will get their own little space. And that’s basically what we want, you know? So we don’t have to live with the other groups.”

How would they feel about a race war? “I don’t really know,” Lynx says dreamily.

“I think I would be glad,” Lamb says.

“Not about the war,” Lynx interjects, and Lamb quickly revises her answer.

In any event, neither one will be strapping on an assault rifle anytime soon. “I’m a girl!” Lamb says with a honking laugh. “I think the boys should be fighting and the girls stay home!”

“And make babies!” Lynx puts in.

*****

The Gaede family is planning to quit California—or “Mexifornia,” as they like to call it—for good. They are busily packing for the trip, which will take them somewhere “with lots of snow,” April says, although she prefers not to get too specific.

April has mixed feelings about the move. “I’d like to stay here, because it’s a very fertile area for recruiting and enlightening other whites,” she says. “But I don’t want my kids to have to live here.”

Bakersfield is changing. Sometimes you call a government office and you can’t understand the accent of the person who answers the phone, April complains. And the grocery stores are going downhill. “They cater to certain foods I guess Hispanics want. Like, I guess Mexicans eat cactuses. And they’ll be selling those candles with paintings on the side? It’s like a Third World marketplace.”

The more pressing issue, however, is what has happened on their block. Not long ago, a Mexican family moved in. “The other day, they were washing their car right out on the street,” April fumes. “They sit in their garage with the garage door wide open, just drinking beer. Just watch: You come back here in five years, the whole block will be mestizo.”

Later, I drive around the subdivision, but I don’t see any open garage doors or beer drinking. Every house is dead quiet and looks exactly the same.

 

[Penelope Street]

I went to some length to note that I was not a racist

I see right into your soul ya lil redskin squaw.

LOL. But then, racism and sexism were both in during the Eisenhower administration, weren't they? Your body may have been many places since then, but there's little evidence your brain bothered to come along. Seriously, have you had an original thought in the fifty years since you asked your father if it mattered which shoe you put on first?

*giggles* ...

Just in the interests of fairness, I have to question that. Surely eugenics pure and unsullied is the study of the differences between races, of which there are definitely a few.

I think I see where you're coming from.

I am pointing out that I am not taking your statement as undeniable fact unless you give me a source.

Source? When you're dealing with a refuse regurgitation device, do you really want to know the source?

 

[TheEarl]

I see all kinds of shock and outrage over two little white girls making money on a gimmick record CD.

Yet I see no shock or outrage over all the money the self-proclaimed 'gangsta' rap artists singing, if you can call that singing, about killing whity and the man (police).

You're all a bunch of hypocrites.

I can't say that I listen to gangsta rap that often and what I have heard hasn't had lyrics about killing people for their race.

I'm not a very musically up-to-date person.

The Earl

 

[Pure]

Originally Posted by cloudy
btw: eugenics has been proven to be false. I'm really sorry to destroy your illusions, but facts are facts.

Early //Just in the interests of fairness, I have to question that. Surely eugenics pure and unsullied is the study of the differences between races, of which there are definitely a few.

Can you provide any info on who's proven eugenics to be false?

The Earl//

Pure replies:
Hi, Earl,
P: Eugenics is not merely centered on the claim of racial differences. It was a movement in the US and elsewhere to "improve" a particular race, e.g., the white one. A number of specific measures were proposed pursuant to the claims (see below), e.g restricting immigration.

So the key eugenics claims [claims of famous eugenics advocates], known to be false or without evidence behind them, are these.

0. There are races. Certain groups, e.g., US Whites [Jews and Gypsies [[Roma]]of Europe] can be identified as a 'race' with a high degree of 'purity' [lack of intermixing w other races.]

1. Some of these alleged 'races' [e.g., the Whites] are better, at birth, in certain desirable [for all humans] qualities, e.g., intelligence, honesty, hard workingness.

2. The X [white] race can benefit be being kept 'pure', i.e., NOT intermarrying. All races benefit from separate development, w/o mixing.

3. Measures to improve a race's purity--e.g., forbidding intermarriage-- will benefit the race.

4. Measures to DEcrease the fertility [and numbers] of the LESS able races {American Blacks, European Jews and Gypsies] will benefit mankind

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I can't say that I listen to gangsta rap that often and what I have heard hasn't had lyrics about killing people for their race.

I'm not a very musically up-to-date person.

The Earl

It is prevalant here in the states, whether you want to hear it or not. At most traffic lights you can hear one or more car booming out the tunes(???).

 

[cloudy]

I see all kinds of shock and outrage over two little white girls making money on a gimmick record CD.

Yet I see no shock or outrage over all the money the self-proclaimed 'gangsta' rap artists singing, if you can call that singing, about killing whity and the man (police).

You're all a bunch of hypocrites.

I don't listen to it, and I don't buy their cd's.

If you bothered to read my post you'd have seen that I said they were entitled to sing whatever the hell they wanted to. What bothers me is that so many people are buying it.

btw: name ONE gangsta rap song that you've heard that says "kill whitey."

Can't, can you?

And you're a bigoted ass, but we already knew that.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Not a trend, just a freak show. Point and laugh. A handful of alienated, weak-minded individuals may be seduced by the message, but only ones destined to surrender their reason and integrity to one false god or another anyway.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I don't listen to it, and I don't buy their cd's.

If you bothered to read my post you'd have seen that I said they were entitled to sing whatever the hell they wanted to. What bothers me is that so many people are buying it.

btw: name ONE gangsta rap song that you've heard that says "kill whitey."

Can't, can you?

And you're a bigoted ass, but we already knew that.

I did read your post you hypocrite. So everyone that buys it is also a bigot in your eyes? I haven't bought it or a any rap and I haven't started a thread about people buy this crap, you did.

I just have to say it...look who's calling the kettle black.

You are the only one who throws the race card all the time around here so who's the bigot, who's the racist?

You are the one who resorts to name calling a putting words in peoples mouths. The rest of us just try to get along and express our opinions. But if we do you jump right in there call us racist and bigots and how much you hate us for our opinions. Now to me it's you who are being a bigot.

As far as naming a rap song, sorry you're right, I can't but I bet you could.

 

[cloudy]

I did read your post you hypocrite. So everyone that buys it is also a bigot in your eyes? I haven't bought it or a any rap and I haven't started a thread about people buy this crap, you did.

I just have to say it...look who's calling the kettle black.

You are the only one who throws the race card all the time around here so who's the bigot, who's the racist?

You are the one who resorts to name calling a putting words in peoples mouths. The rest of us just try to get along and express our opinions. But if we do you jump right in there call us racist and bigots and how much you hate us for our opinions. Now to me it's you who are being a bigot.

As far as naming a rap song, sorry you're right, I can't but I bet you could.

Race card?

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're the only one I call a bigot. Sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em.

what an ass.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Race card?

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're the only one I call a bigot. Sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em.

what an ass.

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/ad/massmoon.gif

 

[Liar]

It is prevalant here in the states, whether you want to hear it or not. At most traffic lights you can hear one or more car booming out the tunes(???).

Can you cite an exmple of lyrics? Cuz I've heard a lot of rap that is status posing (pop a cap in anyone who has an attitude, be tham 'niggas' 'hos' or 'cops') and I've heard rap that is blatantly misogynist. But I seem to have missed the rap that promotes race violence.


Edited to add: Ah, should have read the rest of the thread. Cloudy already went there. Sorry.

But c'mon, folks, we're a fairly diverse gang here, sure somebody must know of Kill Whitey rap lyrics?

I know of Reagge artists' Kill Faggots lyrics (Elephant Man to name one), and I think they are fucktartds too.

 

[cloudy]

But c'mon, folks, we're a fairly diverse gang here, sure somebody must know of Kill Whitey rap lyrics?

Nope, apparently he just pulled that little "fact" right out of his ass, like he does most things he says.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

The song is called "Kill Whitey".

ETA: by Wesley Willis

 

[Misty_Morning]

deleted

 

[Liar]

ETA: by Wesley Willis

A schitzophrenic (with the papers to prove it), experimental punk rock/spoken word artist.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

So back on topic...does anyone know how big the National Alliance/National Vanguard thing is getting?