Dishonest 'Editor'

[lovecraft68]

That's awful. Was she kicked off of Lit for that reason, or was she already gone by the time the discovery was made? I suppose stories are just as vulnerable to that type of theft after they are published, too. It seems like there are three choices: (1) ignore it, (2) monitor and litigate it, or (3) don't publish online. Choice number 3 seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Choice 2 could be expensive and all-consuming. Choice 1 would feel fine until you found out. Then it would be a kick in the gut.

She had been gone from lit for sometime. Most of the stories she published were ina period of a few weeks and that alone should have had Amazon's attention, and even with proof it took dozens of complaints from author's here as well as Laurel herself getting involved to get them removed.

She had a blog at the time and a facebook and during the entire time she was claiming she wrote all those stories herself. She eventually gave up and I think deleted those pages. I always wonder if she popped back up somewhere else and is doing the same thing and hasn' been found yet.

For my smut here I just edit as best I can, and often not well enough
For my pay stuff I take more time and have a little help from someone. My erotic horror novels I have a person who I pay and came recommended through the author association I'm a member of.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

I'm not sure anybody is saying the OP is over-reacting. Most of us are saying, "If there's proof, take it to Laurel, get the 'editor' banned."

So far, we've seen an accusation, an outed email address, but no evidence. Whether the OP has taken their case to Laurel we don't know, but this thread, so far, contains an accusation without proof.

I think that if you try to read a lot of the responses as if you were the original poster, you would feel attacked and shut down. It's a serious accusation and it needs to be supported with facts, but the way to do that is to ask for the facts, rather than to assume he doesn't have them.

I absolutely understand why people are assuming there's a real leap being made without support, but nothing will be lost by taking a step back.

The outed email address is a separate matter, but one that was already handled appropriately by the moderator.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm not sure anybody is saying the OP is over-reacting. Most of us are saying, "If there's proof, take it to Laurel, get the 'editor' banned."

So far, we've seen an accusation, an outed email address, but no evidence. Whether the OP has taken their case to Laurel we don't know, but this thread, so far, contains an accusation without proof.

You can see Awkwards post for her usual tolerance and understanding of a situation.
I also said that because like any thread there are more eyes on it than posters and some may be siding with the OP, some may be rolling there eyes and thinking its no big deal some might be pissed because they clicked the wrong forum and were looking for dirty pictures

So I just wanted to call out a well known situation here and as far as I know the worst case of theft we've seen by one person to show the OP, or anyone else concerned on this topic...should be. Like all other types of people you have honest editors and not so honest and without recommendations how do you know one from the other?

 

[SimonDoom]

This thread is a good microcosm of how Literotica threads can go haywire.

The OP has not reposted anything since the original post.

Based on the extremely limited information the OP posted, we can't conclude anything. Nothing. We have no idea whatsoever what this editor did or had in mind and we can make no conclusions.

Maybe the editor had a family emergency.

Let's all withhold judgment until we have, you know, facts.

 

[lovecraft68]

This thread is a good microcosm of how Literotica threads can go haywire.

The OP has not reposted anything since the original post.

Based on the extremely limited information the OP posted, we can't conclude anything. Nothing. We have no idea whatsoever what this editor did or had in mind and we can make no conclusions.

Maybe the editor had a family emergency.

Let's all withhold judgment until we have, you know, facts.

Exactly...my point was just its something worth being concerned over, in general not just this particular situation.

I haven't looked at the VE service in so long...is there a feature to leave reviews for them? I swore there was, but...I also misremember more and more lately

 

[jsmiam]

And based on the size of the overreaction seen here...

...So for those here who think the OP is over reacting?

I repeat....300 stolen stories published by a longtime VE

As one of the “he’s overreacting” opinion holders, he came to the forum with a vengeance, literally.

The next part, I’m not speaking in absolutes, it just doesn’t seem logical to go to all the trouble of being a volunteer editor to steal stories. I’ve always viewed criminals as ‘convenience shoppers’ to a degree. Why go to all that trouble when they have stories they can steal everywhere?

And then finally (back to the op.) His explanation didn’t make it certain, but you could easily read it as the editor agreed to edit, received the stories, and wasn’t heard from after that.

Then there’s also, this: If the editor were the dos equis beer most interesting man in the world, would he say “I don’t always steal stories. But when I do, I steal stories from new writers where English is their second language”? It’s not impossible. Just there would seem to be better people to target for your plagiarizing pleasure.

For the record, plagiarism is wrong, of course. But lots of questions to be asked here.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

This has become a proxy argument among people who don't even disagree in principle.

 

[KeithD]

What trouble does one have to go through to hang out a volunteer editor shingle here?

 

[MrCurrie01]

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[loquere]

Woah. What reason do you have to believe he took them and published them as his own? That's a serious allegation. Unless you know something specific, the likelihood is that he dropped the ball or had something else to do.

Editors don't get paid here. Editing Literotica stories probably ranks fairly low on the list of things they have to do. You shouldn't make allegations against someone unless you have very good reason to do so.

I agree with this 100%, I've got nothing more to add to it.

 

[loquere]

I think I kind of remember this happening.

Something I want to add here for people who haven't been around that long, or maybe weren't around when this went down.

A few years back(maybe 5? Time flies) I was contacted by someone from the Smashwords team that someone published one of my books under their name. Because mine was older they went to them first and they claimed I stole it.

I showed them the link of the original version here on lit dating back to 2011 and they said fine, and also told me that person had put it on amazon

I go there and find it, then post a thread here because this person had over 300+ books and come to find out many were stolen for lit

But here is the relevance to this thread. The thief? A woman who went by the name of Evelyn Turner

ET was a VOLUNTEER EDITOR" on lit for years and many of her stories were those sent to her over time by people looking for editing-which by the way, her editing was changing a few words, maybe adding a comma and telling you it was all set.

So for those here who think the OP is over reacting?

I repeat....300 stolen stories published by a longtime VE