Did I make a mistake?

Claire_RA

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Hey everyone,

I'm pretty new here and published two stories so far. For both stories, but especially the second one, I got a very specific question that I would like to get some feedback on. Did I put these stories in the wrong category? The two stories I published are:

I categorized both stories as Romance, mostly for lack of a better alternative in my view.


Venus' Touch

Venus' Touch is somewhat of an experiment. This is my attempt to write a story where it is generally unclear whether the sex was (fully) consensual or not. I wondered what a sexual encounter between a man and a woman would have to look like where both might afterward genuinely think "Was this ok?" - not as an excuse but as a genuine question. I published this story in other places and added a poll to it there, asking my readers: "Was the sex depicted in the final chapter consensual?" And I gave them the four options:
  • A) Yes, completely consensual
  • B) Yes, but there were problematic aspects
  • C) No, but calling this rape would be too much
  • D) No, this was rape
In general, readers voted for all four options. One commentator here on Literotica wrote: "Regarding your consensual survey.....I would say between A and B."

Given that responses to that question vary so much, I am happy that I achieved my goal in depicting the ambiguity. But when I posted the story here, I naturally wondered where to put it. I thought about putting it in the noncon category but this is certainly not the type of a story a noncon reader would expect. Ultimately, I put it in Romance because for 3.5 out of 4 chapters this story reads like the beginning of a romance story or romantic comedy even. I tagged it as reluctance and added the short description "A romantic encounter that blurs the line of consent" to convey the ambiguity of the story.

When it was published, it got immediately downvoted with 2 or 3 1 star ratings. I was told before that there is a sizable share of Literotica readers that dislike noncon stories very much and wondered whether this was just people downvoting a story on principle for including ambiguous consent without being put into the noncon category. The story started with a rating around 3.5 and has since then clawed its way up to 4.28 out of 5 with a total of 40 ratings. But I wonder, should I have put this story in the noncon category? One reader commented "Didn't feel like a Romance", suggesting it might have been better placed in another category.


Sweet, Sweet Mess
Sweet, Sweet Mess is a story about a woman running into her ex after 6 years who is now married. He ultimately cheats on his wife with her.

The initial negative reaction to this story was even stronger than for Venus' Touch. The story started with a 2.8 average rating after the first 20 or so votes and has since then moved up to a 3.57 average rating after 74 votes in total. Despite being published two weeks later than Venus' Touch (May 10 vs May 24) it has already eclipsed the latter in views and number of ratings. Two people have commented how they did not like cheating and therefore disliked the story, one of them praising the writing though despite his disdain for the subject matter.

I tagged the story as "cheating, affair, adultery" and thought that this would make clear what the story is about, but only realized later that Literotica does not show these tags when it displays the story on the "new stories" page. Quite a few readers seem to have felt blindsided by the cheating in the story, expecting some sweet, heartfelt tale. And again I wonder: Did I hurt my story by putting it in the wrong category? If there had been a category for cheating, I would have put it there. A potential Drama category would also have been a nice fit. In hindsight, maybe the Mature category would have been a better fit? But I associated that primarily with older characters and with my two lead characters only being 27, I didn't consider it.



Either way, I am curious to know what you think. Should I have chosen different categories for those? Is it common that stories receive poor initial ratings and then recover as time passes? Do readers on Literotica downvote stories because they didn't include what they expected when they clicked on it despite acknowledging that the story itself might be well written? Feel free to share your own experiences with your stories here, too. I'd really like to get a feeling for how much the choice of the right category matters.
 
My understanding of the Romance category is that it is for Happily Ever After stories, often quite light on the sex.

Erotic Couplings is often considered a good catch-all category for stories that don't fit elsewhere (or if you don't want to post on LW or NCR).
 
Noncon is a hot rail. It will squick people who aren't expecting it, and Romance is absolutely not where people are expecting it.
 
Noncon is a hot rail. It will squick people who aren't expecting it, and Romance is absolutely not where people are expecting it.

I agree. I post in noncon and am always amazed at the legions of dipshits who are offended at reading a noncon story in the noncon section.
 
Thanks for your responses. So the Romance category has a very narrow view of what romance is: soft, sweet, little moral ambiguity with clear happy endings? I think I got it. I really wish there were more categories that sort stories by the type of narrative and not the sexual acts depicted.
 
Hey everyone,

I'm pretty new here and published two stories so far. For both stories, but especially the second one, I got a very specific question that I would like to get some feedback on. Did I put these stories in the wrong category? The two stories I published are:

I categorized both stories as Romance, mostly for lack of a better alternative in my view.


Venus' Touch

Venus' Touch is somewhat of an experiment. This is my attempt to write a story where it is generally unclear whether the sex was (fully) consensual or not. I wondered what a sexual encounter between a man and a woman would have to look like where both might afterward genuinely think "Was this ok?" - not as an excuse but as a genuine question. I published this story in other places and added a poll to it there, asking my readers: "Was the sex depicted in the final chapter consensual?" And I gave them the four options:
  • A) Yes, completely consensual
  • B) Yes, but there were problematic aspects
  • C) No, but calling this rape would be too much
  • D) No, this was rape
In general, readers voted for all four options. One commentator here on Literotica wrote: "Regarding your consensual survey.....I would say between A and B."

Given that responses to that question vary so much, I am happy that I achieved my goal in depicting the ambiguity. But when I posted the story here, I naturally wondered where to put it. I thought about putting it in the noncon category but this is certainly not the type of a story a noncon reader would expect. Ultimately, I put it in Romance because for 3.5 out of 4 chapters this story reads like the beginning of a romance story or romantic comedy even. I tagged it as reluctance and added the short description "A romantic encounter that blurs the line of consent" to convey the ambiguity of the story.

When it was published, it got immediately downvoted with 2 or 3 1 star ratings. I was told before that there is a sizable share of Literotica readers that dislike noncon stories very much and wondered whether this was just people downvoting a story on principle for including ambiguous consent without being put into the noncon category. The story started with a rating around 3.5 and has since then clawed its way up to 4.28 out of 5 with a total of 40 ratings. But I wonder, should I have put this story in the noncon category? One reader commented "Didn't feel like a Romance", suggesting it might have been better placed in another category.


Sweet, Sweet Mess
Sweet, Sweet Mess is a story about a woman running into her ex after 6 years who is now married. He ultimately cheats on his wife with her.

The initial negative reaction to this story was even stronger than for Venus' Touch. The story started with a 2.8 average rating after the first 20 or so votes and has since then moved up to a 3.57 average rating after 74 votes in total. Despite being published two weeks later than Venus' Touch (May 10 vs May 24) it has already eclipsed the latter in views and number of ratings. Two people have commented how they did not like cheating and therefore disliked the story, one of them praising the writing though despite his disdain for the subject matter.

I tagged the story as "cheating, affair, adultery" and thought that this would make clear what the story is about, but only realized later that Literotica does not show these tags when it displays the story on the "new stories" page. Quite a few readers seem to have felt blindsided by the cheating in the story, expecting some sweet, heartfelt tale. And again I wonder: Did I hurt my story by putting it in the wrong category? If there had been a category for cheating, I would have put it there. A potential Drama category would also have been a nice fit. In hindsight, maybe the Mature category would have been a better fit? But I associated that primarily with older characters and with my two lead characters only being 27, I didn't consider it.



Either way, I am curious to know what you think. Should I have chosen different categories for those? Is it common that stories receive poor initial ratings and then recover as time passes? Do readers on Literotica downvote stories because they didn't include what they expected when they clicked on it despite acknowledging that the story itself might be well written? Feel free to share your own experiences with your stories here, too. I'd really like to get a feeling for how much the choice of the right category matters.
I would probably have put the first one in Erotic Couplings, because of the ambiguity. Some readers are more amenable to 'twist' endings than others, but in general, those who are happy reading 3.5 chapters of Romance will be expecting that last half chapter to continue the theme, not deviate from it. If there's a twist, they want a romantic twist.

Although it's the man cheating, Loving Wives might be the best fit for your second story. It's the closest thing to a cheating and/or drama category (although that isn't the original intent for the category). Erotic Couplings is pretty much an option for anything, except maybe group sex. You can consult the 'tag cloud' for any given category to get an idea of what kind of things are already there. I'd be surprised if cheating, affair, or adultery would show up in Romance, as those are all kind of antithetical to the concept, at least as it applies at an erotica website.

As for your other questions... A high degree of score volatility is very common in the first days of a new story, when it is most visible and tends to attract the widest variety of readers/voters. Those who come late to the party are often, presumably, those who had to seek it out somehow, and therefore somewhat predisposed to liking it. Yes, voters are known to cast their ballots punitively if they feel let down or deceived or what-have-you; and after all, the voting system is ostensibly asking for their emotional response to a work, not a letter grade for its technical merits.
 
Thanks for your responses. So the Romance category has a very narrow view of what romance is: soft, sweet, little moral ambiguity with clear happy endings? I think I got it. I really wish there were more categories that sort stories by the type of narrative and not the sexual acts depicted.
The readers in Romance take a fairly standard view of what a Romance is. I haven't read the stories, but as you describe them neither is a Romance.

Aside from the general plot of a Romance (a couple meet, realize that have a common interest, and struggle through obstacles to a Happily Ever After ending), many readers there are looking for an escape, so characters--especially female characters--who are pure of heart and mind do well. Stories with extramarital affairs and borderline rape aren't likely to get a good response.

The first two stories I put in Romance were also not Romances. Laurel saved me on the first one by diverting it to Erotic Coupling. She left the second one in Romance and the readers coughed it up like a big hair ball.
 
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Yeah, Romance on one hand is generally a soft voting category if you give them what they want, On the other hand if you mix in anything like reluctance or dub con or even rough sex, they don't take to it will.

Problem is if the alleged non con aspects are very light, they may not care for it in NC/R and when you post there it's the type of extreme category a lot of readers shy away from so they may not come back and check you out again.

I would say if you write another similar story to put it in erotic couples. But of a catch all category so the readers don't have as much in the way of set expectations.

There's a lot of talk of Loving wives category and how its just a shark pit and brutal on stories, but rarely mention Romance is the opposite in that its generally tame, borders on vanilla in a lot stories and again, the crowd is soft voting...if you give them sappy HEA. Its a 'feel good category.
 
Thanks for your responses. So the Romance category has a very narrow view of what romance is: soft, sweet, little moral ambiguity with clear happy endings? I think I got it. I really wish there were more categories that sort stories by the type of narrative and not the sexual acts depicted.
i agree
 
I really wish there were more categories that sort stories by the type of narrative and not the sexual acts depicted.

I agree.

Nonconsent and Reluctance should be separate categories.

Incest and Taboo should also be separate categories because most of the readers in the current joint category don't get it when a mere taboo story gets posted there and it doesn't have any incest in it.
 
Thanks for your responses. So the Romance category has a very narrow view of what romance is: soft, sweet, little moral ambiguity with clear happy endings? I think I got it. I really wish there were more categories that sort stories by the type of narrative and not the sexual acts depicted.
Pretty much. I'd echo the suggestions to ask Laurel to move them both to Erotic Couplings. To do that, resubmit with the same title plus the word EDIT, and ask for a category change. It will take 2 - 3 weeks, but the story will keep all the scores and comments.

Before you move anything to LW do your homework in that category - sample some stories, sample the commentary and decide if you want to be a part of all that. There's a chasm across Lit, and you either chose to cross the bridge or you never do. Don't do it accidentally.
 
@ElectricBlue Thanks for the advice. Sadly, I don't think it matters as much anymore now that the two stories have been published for a while. The allergic reactions seem to have subsided after the stories disappeared from the first page of the new stories section. And after it took two weeks to publish a really short story like Sweet, Sweet Mess I think I'm not in the mood to wait multiple weeks for a simple category change. But I'll give Erotic Couplings a go the next time I might have a story for Literotica!
 
"Ryan, I don't wa..."

That puts it over the edge for me. The character got the words "I don't" out.

Ryan didn't hold up and ask anything to follow up. I think in a legal sense it's rape. In the justice system, it depends on what the character wants to do about it - but now we're into the practicalities, and not the definition.

I'm not as hard-line as some about obtaining explicit prior consent in some situations. This could have been one. But "I don't" seems clear-cut.

Bad Ryan. Bad.

Yeah, Reluctance/Non-Consent would be my vote if you wanted a do-over.
 
I don't have anything to add about your specific question (seems like it's been answered thoroughly), but I've found this gem to be super useful as a starting point on both where to place a story you've written without a category in mind, and a good primer on the non-obvious quirks of some of the categories, if you do plan on writing something targeting one of them in specific.

https://www.literotica.com/s/love-your-readers-categories
 
@PrimalDual I love how much the opinions on this story diverge. Just a couple of days ago someone told me:

"'Consensual with problematic aspects' has my vote, Amelia's body just wanted it a bit more than her brain did. Perhaps Amelia enjoying the sex less -- and we're clearly not in the orgasm-during-rape territory here -- could have made the story more ambiguous."

Thanks for giving your view on that!

@filthytrancendence That thread is a great ressource! I think literotica could even consider showing it newly registered authors as a standard reference.
 
I think literotica could even consider showing it newly registered authors as a standard reference.
I mean, you're not wrong, but the list of things they could do a bit better is probably infinite. You kinda just got to accept the web 1.0 jank as part of the charm, or else surrender to madness.
 
I agree.

Nonconsent and Reluctance should be separate categories.

Incest and Taboo should also be separate categories because most of the readers in the current joint category don't get it when a mere taboo story gets posted there and it doesn't have any incest in it.
I thought taboo & incest were 1 in same?
 
There are other taboos.
Obviously, I'm not into them.
Another thing, as I've pondered this discussion regarding CNC... it seems to really be rape fantasies, cloaked in eventual supposed consent. I don't consider it a kink. It's violence, & completely a violation of another human being's body, mind & soul. If it were up to me, I'd remove the category & all stories about it.
 
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