Did I catch someone?

Hi Mismused. I really liked the peom. But I'm not clear about your post, and may have gotten the wrong end of the stick. To leave a public comment, you have to give a rating of 0 - 100 degrees. Do you mean they gave you a low rating here, or gave you a '1' vote? Because the two don't coincide in my mind.

As to '1' votes, we just have to tough them out. I've had a story up for a day now, and it seems that I've already received two '1' votes already. That's life, we all get them. Edited to add: although this took me a while to accept!

But it is really sad if someone low voted you because of a comment you made on theforum (again, right end of the stick?).


Hug and :kiss:

Wishful
 
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Sorry, but I don't understand what in the world that post is about. Did we just walk in the middle of an argument or something?

If you're hurt about being one-bombed, well, it's painful, but it happens all the time, and the better your story scores, the more likely it is. All you can do is hope that over time the high scores will bury the ones.

---dr.M.
 
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mismused
I'm sorry you are having these problems. There are in any community people who resent the abilities/achievements of others and will act in a disingenuous manner. Ultimately, the only person brought down is themselves.

You are aware of the high regard that I hold for your stories, for what it counts, and I will not repeat myself here, save but to recommend readers of this thread to use the link posted above and judge for themselves.

There is no simple solution to this, it has been discussed many times before due to the natural frustration and injustice that any writer feels when action of this nature takes place.

My advice, do not distress yourself or spend valuable writing time pandering to the unwarranted attention of individuals whose only contribution is negativity.

On a technical point: you mentioned Public Comments FAQ's - from what you say, it would appear that voting in PC's WILL count toward overall votes IF no vote has been entered in the usual place at the foot of the story.

This is the first time I have heard of this and would like to check this out, can anyone else confirm this?

neonlyte
 
mismused,

I think frankly that the information regarding the PC ratings is incorrect in the FAQ. I have recieved, for one poem, a straight line of 5 votes (ok only four of them, since too few actually read it). Still, the comments had a 50% comment, from a reader who hadn't voted. I should know, since I asked her. If the FAQ was right that would had dragged my 5.0 rating down a bit.

So I'd say that the PC rating and the 2 vote you see does not have to be from the same person.

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Guys, please don't let this silly debacle spill over into the AH too.

The ranting over this YDD person has been raging for way too long over at the poetry forum. And I frankly can't see why. Here is a person who takes the effort to read and comment almost every new entry on the poem section. The comments are honest, frank and often a little nit-picking on spelling and stuff, but never really down-putting. (And nowhere near the likes of L&L and such charmers :rolleyes: )

And even if whoever is behind that handle WAS a slanderous troll (which I can't see to be the case), why care? Rise above, baby. Rise above. :rose:

#L
 
Bombing almost always starts with the 11th vote. Until you have 10 votes your rating is invisible.

Several times one of my stories has reached the 10th vote with a perfect 5. It doesn't last more than a couple of hours.

Bombing happens to most authors and it is impossible to say who did it.

The percentage marking on the Public Comment is set at 50% default and you cannot correct it if you didn't see the default marking. Those percentages do not affect the rating caused by the voting.

Og
 
Og
You must give a rating to the story to leave a comment. If you have voted on the submission previously, then the vote you leave with the comment will not count toward the submission's total.

I found this little piece tucked away under 'Submissions' .

The inference is that votes on Public Comments will count if you have not voted in the normal way. This is contrary to what I perceive to be the majority opinion, including mine, any thoughts?

NL
 
You must give a rating to the story to leave a comment. If you have voted on the submission previously, then the vote you leave with the comment will not count toward the submission's total.

As badly as this is worded (sorry), to me it says that if you vote twice, it won't count. Why? Because you have to distinguish between ratings (the thermometer) and votes. So when you vote, I think you get asked to leave a public comment, and vice versa. But at the end of the day, only one vote is counted.
 
Wishful
Always been clear that only one vote counted. The confusion, for me, is the 'assumption' that PC votes never counted, the statement appears to indicate they 'may'.

Why am I bothered? Well, if you turn OFF voting status on Submissions and turn ON Public Comments, you will have a better idea of who is voting on your stories - should you want to be so inclined - the only votes counted will be the ones through PC for which a comment of some sort is required. Of course, I may have this all 'a*** about face'.

Personally, I'm not that bothered any longer, however, individuals who are concerned they are being targetted, may find some advantage in tipping the scale slightly away from 'anonymous bombing'.

NL
 
The F.A.Q. isn't worded correctly. The thermometer votes NEVER count to the average rating. That comes exclusively from the classic vote system.

The thermometer is only a visual aid to illustrate the comments. If you don't want to use it, if you would rather your WORDS do all the talking, you leave it at default and shows a 50% rating. That is NOT a vote.
 
Liar said:

Guys, please don't let this silly debacle spill over into the AH too.

The ranting over this YDD person has been raging for way too long over at the poetry forum. And I frankly can't see why. Here is a person who takes the effort to read and comment almost every new entry on the poem section. The comments are honest, frank and often a little nit-picking on spelling and stuff, but never really down-putting. (And nowhere near the likes of L&L and such charmers :rolleyes: )

And even if whoever is behind that handle WAS a slanderous troll (which I can't see to be the case), why care? Rise above, baby. Rise above. :rose:

#L

Hear hear!!!
 
Say what?

Liar said:


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Guys, please don't let this silly debacle spill over into the AH too.

The ranting over this YDD person has been raging for way too long over at the poetry forum. And I frankly can't see why. Here is a person who takes the effort to read and comment almost every new entry on the poem section. The comments are honest, frank and often a little nit-picking on spelling and stuff, but never really down-putting. (And nowhere near the likes of L&L and such charmers :rolleyes: )

And even if whoever is behind that handle WAS a slanderous troll (which I can't see to be the case), why care? Rise above, baby. Rise above. :rose:

#L

From what I can tell, Liar, you have exactly ZERO stories posted on this site.

Why shouldn't an author be concerned if her stories are being trashed by a TROLLop?

Why shouldn't that author wonder WHO, WHY, and HOW?
 
Re: Say what?

sarahhh said:
From what I can tell, Liar, you have exactly ZERO stories posted on this site.
Er... Liar actually has exactly 56 submissions, all of them with votes and public comments allowed...
 
Re: Og, thank you,

mismused said:
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Og,

I think I have said enough about the bombing, but I reiterate that this is intentional, and has happened on just about all of my vote allowed submissions.

The thermometer has no part in what I'm saying. The words used along with the score are not in accord, the one with the other; they are disparate, and therefore the words deceitful.

This all ties together with my story being so voted (both a 2) in a too near time frame to be mere coincidence.

Thank you,
m

It happens to most of my submissions as well. I have 75 of them. So what? I don't think there is a conspiracy against me. I know that my stories do not have universal appeal.

Someone might see that one of my new stories is highly rated, read it because of the rating, and be disappointed. If they leave a 1 vote it can easily be a genuine opinion. If all 1 votes are regarded as 'bombs' then there is no point in having a scale from 1 to 5.

Og
 
Re: Re: Og, thank you,

oggbashan said:
It happens to most of my submissions as well. I have 75 of them. So what? I don't think there is a conspiracy against me. I know that my stories do not have universal appeal.

Someone might see that one of my new stories is highly rated, read it because of the rating, and be disappointed. If they leave a 1 vote it can easily be a genuine opinion. If all 1 votes are regarded as 'bombs' then there is no point in having a scale from 1 to 5.

Og
My sentiments exactly, Og. My most recent poem (see my sig) has just received a 1 vote along with a public comment. I have no doubt the person voting truly thought it deserved a 1 the ignorant bastard ;)
 
I wonder if there's something in the nature of poetry that invites more extreme voting than fiction: more 5's and 1's.

---dr.M.
 
Re: Re: Say what?

Lauren Hynde said:
Er... Liar actually has exactly 56 submissions, all of them with votes and public comments allowed...

So what's her other name?

I don't have time to figure out everyone's multiple identities.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I wonder if there's something in the nature of poetry that invites more extreme voting than fiction: more 5's and 1's.

---dr.M.
It's shorter, so that 'if you don't like it don't read it' excuse doesn't apply. By the time you decide you don't like it, most poems are already read.

Anyway, in the case of this one vote I just got it has to do with something much different and personal, but for most of the rest I think it is a valid reason for the existence of so many 1s.
 
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