Dialogue

Diane Marie

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MikeandJan wrote:

Diane Marie said..., "Interesting that so many of you write for yourself, that you don’t have nor care if you have an audience"
Diane, perhaps you just can't understand someone writing for fun and enjoyment for themselves. To improve their style or experiment with different styles of writing. Although your stories are pretty well said, perhaps you could experiment with something most writer's utilize to more expertly convey their story such as dialogue. I can see why you don't understand and wonder just why you're laughing at others.

Let’s forget whether I get it or not and concentrate on the dialogue. Do you feel dialogue is essential for an erotic story to be good?

If so then please tell me what I’m suppose to be saying while my husband’s best friend is fucking me, I’m at a loss for words!!!!
 
Diane Marie said:
Do you feel dialogue is essential for an erotic story to be good?

If so then please tell me what I’m suppose to be saying while my husband’s best friend is fucking me, I’m at a loss for words!!!!

In most situations, the most effective way to communicate something to a reader is through the use of dialogue. I use dialogue to give my characters more life and depth for the reader. I let my characters define themselves with their spoken words, just as most of us do in real life. I believe most people would rather “listen in” rather than “be told” what is happening.

I can't answer your question specifically about what you would say while your husband's best friend is fucking you. But there are some approaches you could take to make the scene very effective using dialogue.

If the husband is watching, you could add a touch of teasing/humiliation to it by having the wife and/or lover saying things to the husband. Instead of humiliation, there could be something said that reinforces the wife or husband’s desires. Also, you could have the husband talk to the lover and/or wife, telling or asking each other various things to make the scene more effective.

In many group sex settings, things are said between the various lovers. If it is just the lover and wife, have the lover ask the wife what her husband wants, what she is going to tell him, etc. In other words, dirty/sexy talk which can make sex very powerful.

I had a scene in one of my stories with a brother-sister's first time together while her boyfriend and another sister watched. I had the other sister sit in the boyfriend’s lap and tease him about what her brother was doing with his girlfriend. It gave the scene a voyeuristic feel instead of just having the protagonist describe the sex. The same information was given to the reader (a description of the sex), just through dialogue instead of a narrative.
 
Re: Re: Dialogue

Pookie_grrl said:
In most situations, the most effective way to communicate something to a reader is through the use of dialogue.

Pookie_grrl, I understand what you are saying and agree with you, but it brings up one of my pet peeves.

What I think you were saying is that you can really flesh out a character through dialog. I agree with this.

But some inexperienced writers try to convey too much information through dialog, saying things like:


Molly looked over at Bill. "Bill I just love that azure, suede suit your wearing."

or

Cindy looked down between Carl's legs. "Carl, with your brown, cordaroy pants down around your ankles your thickly, veined cock just looks so edible."


Come on, no one talks like that. The writer is just trying to push too much information on the reader inside the dialog. Dialog should sound natural. Don't say anything in dialog that the character wouldn't normally say. Use descriptive phrases to give the detail that the reader NEEDS, no more and no less, and don't try to include it in dialog unless it is something the character would actually say.

Just my opinion.
BigTexan
 
I agree, BigTexan. The temptation with most new writers is to slam the reader with too much "description", especially at the beginning of a story. The writer forgets to let the reader use their imagination some.

"Keep it tight" is the key. Also, make the dialogue sound realistic and the story will seem more realistic to the reader.
 
Yes, I believe that 99% of the stories written should include dialogue. 100% narrative gets damned tiring to read after a while.

Also, in a story, it's not always about what YOU would say while your husband's best friend is fucking you. Unless you're writing an non-fiction autobiography, it's about what your CHARACTER would say, how she would say it, and how her spoken words enhance your story (even if your story is "about" you.) Real life is a basis for fiction, but it isn't the end all, be all.

Try dialogue. It's really peachy. :)
 
Listen to people speak, even in casual conversation and not just during sex. Although, paying attention to this at the time certainly couldn't hurt either.

Another personal device might be an inner dialogue. I'm not very vocal in real life, but I have a constant stream of dialogue running in my head. If the story is written in the first person, write it as it would be spoken. This might sound easier than it is, but consider, the messages posted on this board is nothing more than the inner voice communicating...

HomerPindar
 
Diane Marie said:
Do you feel dialogue is essential for an erotic story to be good?

If so then please tell me what I’m suppose to be saying while my husband’s best friend is fucking me, I’m at a loss for words!!!!


Why would you be at a loss for words?

If you liked it, then you could be letting him know you liked it. If you hated it then tell him.

Dialogue isn't really the big ogre some of us think it is. For me, I find it really easy to add it into a story. I'm not about to agree or disagree that it's essential to erotic stories. That depends entirely on the story and how it's being told.

The toughest part of dialogue for me is typing those time consuming speechmarks. I never learned to touch type with my little fingers and I have to hunt for them every single time. grrr

I do notice though, that the toughest part for some authors is to use dialogue in an honest way. Face it, if my grandmother trips over the cat is she more likely to say "Oh gosh Kitty. Please don't lay on the floor like that." or is she going to say "Shit, that fucking cat tripped me again!"?

Actually, my grandmothers (both of them) would likely turn in their graves if they saw me typing that last bit... But I know full well that both of them wouldn't be watching their p's and q's if they really did trip over the cat.

Be honest with dialogue, and be realistic. It can enhance and it can destroy. Above all, try it out. it's fun :)
 
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