dial up vs. cable modem

Irontoto

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ok, everyones probably thinking, what the fuck does modems have to do with sex. well the answer for those of you who have no clue, NOTHING.but, i just want to let everyone know that a cable modem really does work alot faster and you never get cutoff.thats all i have to say for now. bye.
 
Well, sure it has something to do with erotica & stuff. If you are on a cable modem then you can use the phone to masterbate with & not worry about screwing up your connection....
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Thanks for sharing, Tonto. BTW, that's the way it works now, but everytime someone else in your neighborhood connects to that puppy you're going to lose bandwidth. I've been looking at broadband options for awhile now and I just can't see anything that justifies the investment at the moment. DSL looks like the way to go, but I keep hearing horror stories about how initial set ups are being handled. Fortunately there's nothing on the internet that makes it imperative for me to go in that direction. Maybe in 2006 when they release "Matrix IV" direct to internet with full streaming audio and video and interactive viewer participation (Hehehe..."Click here to have Neo catch bullet in left hand...") I'll have a reason to worry about it. Until then I'm not in too much of a hurry.
 
This isn't true with my cable modem or anyone else I know who has one. Your cable modem is 100 times faster then 56k. Even if it is slower when a lot of people in your area have cable you are still working so fast!

They are not that much. About $20 more a month then regular ISPs charge. Just get one less 6 pack a month and maybe cut back on that one value meal and you will have that extra $20.

Originally posted by Lasher99:
Thanks for sharing, Tonto. BTW, that's the way it works now, but everytime someone else in your neighborhood connects to that puppy you're going to lose bandwidth.
I've been looking at broadband options for awhile now and I just can't see anything that justifies the investment at the moment.




[This message has been edited by dickfer (edited 04-09-2000).]
 
Ok, so we finally have an answer to that age old question, "What's a dickfer?"

ANSWER: Wasting our time and space by quoting posts that are right fucking above his. Jesus, Dude...Enough of that shit already. People know what I said because it's right fucking above your fucking post. Use some common sense goddammit. JEEZ!

I didn't say it that your damn cable modem isn't faster than a 56k. Duh. And as more and more people hook up, you will see your bandwidth decrease. AT&T cable here in Pittsburgh told me that when service levels reach what they expect in 2 or 3 years that their GOAL is to maintain downloading speeds at 384K. Faster than a 56k, but certainly not the lightning fast speed that people think they'll have in the future.

You didn't say a thing about set up costs. They're telling me between $200 and $300 bucks here. I pay $9.95 for my isp now and get fantastic service. I'm glad you're happy with what you got, I just don't have any need for that type of service right now. And I'm just not sold yet on the value of current broadband solutions. It doesn't matter if I spend a quarter, or $1000 on something, I expect to get equal value in return for the money I spend. Like I said, when there's a need for to download files that quickly, you can bet your ass I'll be looking for the solution.
 
Ok calm down a little bit there i don't think what he said was worth that sever a tougne lashing. I know in my area cable is 20 to 30 a month depending on what company you get there are two right now and might be a third in the future. That is a flat rate no additional instalation costs. That covers the service plus the renting of the cable modem and the rent of a new ethernet card to go with the modem. Instalations are still free right now. Right now there is no contract to sign but i think they are going to have a one year contract in order to get the free instalation sometime in the future.
 
Ahh yes
Cable Modems are great until everyone in your neighborhood gets one, thereby cutting down your bandwith, where as with DSL you are garentteed your bandwith that you purchase, (So I always get 1.5mbps on my DSL Line now matter how many people are connected because it is your own pipe)
So my monthly DSL payment is worth it.

sorry if my typing sucks my hand is broken
 
Well I dunno Tonto about "What the fuck does modems have to do with sex ... " but I do find the words modulating and de-modulating somewhat stimulating. Just the way they sound.
 
Actually lasher i was talking about you. I meant you need to calm down. My post was right below yours and i don't think dickfer was being unreasonable at all. I guess i should have quoted your post so you would understand where it was coming from. Oh wait then you would have tried to beat me for wasting forum space ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 
Well as long as we are talking hookups, the dial-up ISPs are all going free service and you can get it almost anywhere in the country. Even with a pop3 mail sever and no ads.

Free xdsl looks to be in the near future, say next two years but your phone provider is fighting it and it may not be technically feasible everywhere.

Cable modems might be fine but it doesn't help in the country when there isn't cable avalible.

I would be happy if I could just quit getting the 500 error here.
 
Lasher0

A dickfer is for your mouth!

I didn't use your entire quote... So kiss my asss!!! If I want to use part of a quote I will! I'm not a geek like you who spends 24 hours a day on his 28.8 talking about a cable modem when I haven't even had one to know what I'm talking about moron... I don't waste anytime on this board because I have a cable modem!

Anyone with an IQ of 80 would know that Azwed was telling you to calm down...

In 3 years? If that does happen with slower speeds as they get more clients switch at that time... DUH!

Setup cost is only $90 if you have a NIC.

Well where I live you can't find an ISP for less then $20 a momth unless you want to have as much trouble as you do!

You need to get off the board and not worry about if I use quotes and get some sex or a life!

You seem very uptight! Now I would expect you to flame once again because you seem like a dickhead. Since I do have a cable modem and look way better then you and get more chicks I'm going to ignore your ass!

Later
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[This message has been edited by dickfer (edited 04-10-2000).]

[This message has been edited by dickfer (edited 04-10-2000).]
 
dickfer...if you need help with your self-esteem issues we're all willing listen.

And, uh, Oswald...the UBB people haven't answered my email yet about adding [joke][/joke] tags to their code. For your sake I hope they do it soon.

irontoto, don't sweat it, we're just playing, ya know...
 
I've heard that about cable modems - that you have to share bandwidth with the whole friggin neighborhood. So it's great, until half your neighbors get it & use it at the same times that you do (which they will).

But let me tell you my boring, sad DSL story... After arguing with various providers (including Flashcom) and getting jerked around, we finally decided to go with Pac Bell. How could they screw us over? we thought to ourselves.. They're the friggin phone company! lol

So, we sign up to have DSL hooked up to our house in late November. They tell us they're going to install an external "modem" to hook into the DSL cabling, so since we have two computers in our house we'll need to set up a hub. We go down to CompUSA and buy a hub, and we set it up in about an hour. This will be easy, we think to ourselves. Since it's external, we don't have to worry about an inexperienced new-hire Pac Bell jerkoff messing around in our computer's innards.

Wrong... December passes.. The first week of January, Pac Bell finally gets around to assigning us an install appointment. We wait around all day for them to show up and when they do, SURPRISE! Since they now have dynamic IP's (as of January 1st), the external "modems" were no longer used. Instead, they had a card, which took 2 hours for the inexperienced new-hire Pac Bell jerkoff to install and get working. Since they messed around in the computer, it now inexplicably crashes and does all sorts of funky things it never did before.

For about a month, everything's awesome. DSL is faaasssttt - webpages pop up almost as fast as you think of them. Then about a month ago, we start having trouble logging on. Then our email cuts off, so sometimes we can't send, and other times we can't receive. We call up Pac Bell and they give us this whole schpiel about how DSL is an "experimental technology" and that they don't guarantee it will work all the time...!?!? We continue to call them about once a week and stay on hold for an hour to get a human voice, and finally last week they promise to send someone out to check our set-up sometime between 8 am and 5 pm (geez, guys, don't leave yourselves TOO big of a window there...).

We cancel our weekend plans and wait around all day Saturday. At 4:45 pm, the Pac Bell guy calls and tells us that he won't be coming out, that about half the DSL houses in our area are having the same problem, and that it appears to be a bad router somewhere that's causing the problems. So now they've got to 1) find the bad router, then 2) fix it. It could take weeks, he says. How will we know it's fixed? we ask. The problems will go away, he answers.

Argh.

Then I read in the tech industry zines and on the web about how broadband is on its way in and I laugh my ass off. Cable modems are lame, DSL is lame, T1's are hella expensive... How can you build up broadband when 1) most people don't have access to it, and 2) those who do, have access to it half the time? Blah...

[This message has been edited by Laurel (edited 04-10-2000).]
 
First mistake was to believe anything Pac-Bell said in the first place. DSL is not "experimental new tech" -- it's been around for nearly 25 years under various names/disguises. Most common system still is "DOV" - Data over voice. Main problem is that Pac-Bell (how close that is to Packard Bell??!!) doesn't have anyone worth crap in their systems operations departments to run the show and get someone out there working to GET things working.
Anyway -- DSL has one significant fault -- it still comes in on a phone line which will always have more opportunity for errors and faliure just because of it's vast size. Cable may have a bandwidth problem but it's also a more controlled system. I've had all 3 and I'll stick to cable here near the Chicago area. I'm paying just under $45 month for 2 separate IP's and getting downloads in the 8-9 Mbps range. Upload speeds are still limited by Uncle Sugar and will be for some time to come.

Bottom line -- depends on your area of the ocuntry and who is getting the best service for the buck.

OldDog
 
Since I live out in the boonies here in Vermont, all I have access to is a phone line, and most ISP's are toll calls. I get all these offers in the mail for "free" internet service and all the rebates at the local Staples require you to sign up with an ISP that doesn't even have a local line. It comes down to the fact that the information superhighway has no off ramp in towns with less than 50,000 ppl.
 
Skibum -- do you have an opportnity for a satellite or dish TV setup? If so, you might be able to check into the Web TV services. Usually done through the folks who supply cable TV but it's growing in popularity in other avenues (more money).
I taught in Swanton for a while -- know what you mean about NO off ramps!!!
 
Originally posted by OldDog:
Skibum -- do you have an opportnity for a satellite or dish TV setup?

I've looked at the DirectPC satellite system, but the cost is prohibitive. The cable company service area ends 5 miles down the road, and I doubt they will ever get this far. Twice I have moved, just to see cable with all the bells and whistles come into the area I had just vacated. That's probably a good thing. For now I make do with my little 33.6 KBps modem and dream of T1 connections.
 
Skibum, don't forget that DirectPC is only one way from the satellite, and that you still need a phone line for outbound information. Supposedly there's a handful of companies that are going to be giving us bidirectional satellite svc later this year, but it just all sounds kinda hokey to me.
 
Laurel,
you just confermed my worst fear
thats why I am glad when I move I will have everyhing I need to set up my DSL in Orange County
 
The power output you would need to transmit back to the satellite would probably be excessive. And I have to think that with a lot of users the satellite could be overwhelmed with two way data flow.

Maybe we can make use of all those satellites left over when Irridium went bankrupt.
 
Sattelite connections are nice but the over head is too high
you need a high speed computer (about 5,000$) and somthing to control the bandwith (Ie, cicso router anywhere from 800$ to 180,000$)then you have to have your sattleite and the Bull poopoo of having to aim it right, it is just too much work

if you live in the Boise IDaho area they have Wireless t-1 connections for 100$ a month.
 
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