Describe this . . . .

A lot of interesting discussion. ;)

3113 pointed out an interesting dilemma, as in how to describe something based upon both our own experience and that which the "average" reader might find plausible. I think there has to be some kind of middle ground there, though finding it is no small task.

Zeb's post reminded me of something else I think some readers -- and people in general -- might wonder at.

During my military career, I was able to make it home for the holidays. I had just about a week to spend with friends and family. Anyway, a friend of mine, also in the military (a Marine), was also home and had been tinkering with what he considered his "one and only love," a '68 Camarro. He'd bought it years before for a couple thousand and had since put in about five or six grand more when he could. It was a really nice car.

Anyway, we were heading down a road on the east side of San Antonio, after getting a couple pints of Jack Daniel's. It had rained recently, and the road was still slick. I was in the passenger seat. My friend, of course, was driving. His habit was to drive with his right hand on the wheel and his left on the door with the window down.

I remember the car going out of control and my friend fighting to keep it on the road. But then the world turned upside down, metal was crunching, glass was exploding. I braced against the dash and the floor with both hands and both feet so hard I ended up with bruises.

Come to find out later -- thanks to eye witness reports and the insurance investigation -- that the Camarro had flipped at least twice and skidded on it's left side before, miraculously, righting itself onto all four tires.

As soon as the mess was over, my friend and I sat in the ruined car, crumpled roof over our head, steam and smoke coming from beneath the crumpled hood. We got out, dazed, and looked around, amazed at what had happened and that we were still alive.

Now, being both military, we checked each other for wounds, which meant patting each other down. I noticed that, on his left hand, he was conspicuously missing two fingers -- the ring and little fingers -- and when I pointed this out, he went ape-shit. He had no idea those fingers were suddenly gone. Apparently, when the car had slid along its left side, he still had his hand on the open window and . . . the fingers were sheared off and practically cauterized by friction.

In a strange, morbid way, he went back along the road to look for his missing fingers, with me yelling at him that they were probably smeared all over the road. I can almost laugh at the scene in my head now, but I sure as hell didn't then. It was surreal.

I guess, when it comes to describing the strange and unusual yet still real, we have to take into account the reader's expectations of events, as well as how we have portrayed the story thus far. If we have written something utterly fantastic, then the utterly fantastic is plausible in context. If we write something that is mundane, then we should tone it down, I suppose, in order to correspond to the accumulated average experience of our readership.

After all, while most of us write for ourselves, don't we feel an obligation to represent some of the situations we present in a way that is believable to the average Joe? Or should we just let it fly and let some of the readers be confused/frustrated/perplexed?

Me, I don't think I'm going to change the way I write. But I still wonder how some scenarios will be received.
 
Me personally? Hmm... nah, I'm not going to change much or "tone something down" to align with what readers find more believable. I mean, if it's something that actually happened that I actually experienced.

Now in a very small way, we do this all the time with every element of a story. If you've ever thought "How will the reader perceive this" you've probably manipulated SOMETHING for a readers benefit.

But I just think that readers are gonna think want they wanna think. And no one reader is necessarily the same as another. You never know what they will think is implausible or to what degree their tolerance of implausibility actually is. So for me and whatever I send out to readers, I'm not gonna tone down or alter any scene drawn from an actual experience. If the reader doesn't believe it or find it satisfactory, then that's their right. And chances are that crowd will be a small portion anyway.

Not to be offensive to readers, or arrogant (I'm a reader myself) but readers are often ignorant themselves of particular instances or scenarios they question. They see what they see on the news, movies, read books... and they formulate their opinions based on the world as they experience it. And that's fine.

But unless a reader has actually been shot in combat when you're full of adrenaline and hell bent on surviving as Slyc was in his instance, then they really have no more idea than the author of what is plausible for that scenario.

I try to read with an open mind, and I apply the same with everyday life. If I don't know something or I've never been in a situation like that, I'm not going to be skeptical based off of what I THINK I know. Because then, to me, that makes me full of shit. If I am knowledgeable or I have some idea, then I make my opinion just as that... an opinion, not a blanket statement like "well I've been shot and it wasn't like that at all." That's a bit conceited in my eyes, assuming because one person experienced something and it felt THIS way that everyone must have the same THIS way feeling or reaction in the same scenario.

So it all comes back to write what you love and what you know. We can certainly affect our readers, but we can't always control exactly how they'll receive everything we write.
 
I'm born-again convinced people are hopeless dolts (and I'm their god).

I read a story yesterday, written by a famous auther, and the ending was so fucking lame it was a marvel and breath-taking. It didn't work, of course, but readers and editors love it. ITS STUPID.
 
I'm born-again convinced people are hopeless dolts (and I'm their god).

I read a story yesterday, written by a famous auther, and the ending was so fucking lame it was a marvel and breath-taking. It didn't work, of course, but readers and editors love it. ITS STUPID.

Sometimes I read a really good book, and I think, "Why am I even bothering to write? I can't match this. I'm just not good enough."
Other times I read a book and think, "THIS shit got published!? Fuck- I can do better than THAT!"
 
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