Depressing

[Boxlicker101]

Wouldn't it cost more to go through the entire appeal process before they executed him?

I, too, was stunned with the verdict, and am attempting to understand.

But I did read a quote from his mother who said:

"We die once, but now he is going to die little by little. This is terrible, this is terrible, for a mother this is terrible", she said. Moussaoui's mother added: "Now he is going to die in little doses. He is going to live like a rat in a hole. What for? They are so cruel."

http://www.eitb24.com/portal/eitb24...mId=D29368&cl=/eitb24/internacional&idioma=en

So perhaps this is the best punishment for this man. He has lost everything, and in essence, will be shut away from the rest of the world forever. No voice, no hope, no - whatever.

They may wish to use him as a martyr, but they'll never be able to broadcast a video.

Under no circumstances whatsoever should he be allowed to do his time in France. I think it is W's choice but this time, I think he will do the right thing and say something like "Not just no, but Hell no!" and tell the man's mother what a slimeball he is.

 

[R. Richard]

Under no circumstances whatsoever should he be allowed to do his time in France. I think it is W's choice but this time, I think he will do the right thing and say something like "Not just no, but Hell no!" and tell the man's mother what a slimeball he is.

It is W's choice now. However, who knows what sort of President may follow W? Don't think that Moussaoui's supporters will give up. From time to time, there will be appeals made to free Moussaoui. If Moussaoui is not freed, then the appeal will be to let him serve his time in France [better yet Algeria!] If Moussaoui is not freed or allowed to serve soft time, then how about 36 virgins in his cell?
[Moussaoui did not die in his war against the US, but he did say he was willing. He obviously does not qualify for the full 72 virgins, but it will be argued that he should get something.]

 

[Boxlicker101]

It is W's choice now. However, who knows what sort of President may follow W? Don't think that Moussaoui's supporters will give up. From time to time, there will be appeals made to free Moussaoui. If Moussaoui is not freed, then the appeal will be to let him serve his time in France [better yet Algeria!] If Moussaoui is not freed or allowed to serve soft time, then how about 36 virgins in his cell?
[Moussaoui did not die in his war against the US, but he did say he was willing. He obviously does not qualify for the full 72 virgins, but it will be argued that he should get something.]

How about 36 guys with big, hard cocks?

 

[Guest]

How about 36 guys with big, hard cocks?

That works for me.

OH! You mean for Moussaoui.

That works as well. Like a virgin, he is. He'd truly discover what it was like to be fucked for the very first time.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Apparently, aftr mocking victims families and proclaiming victory, he has had some second thoughts abou this acomdations.

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Convicted Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui says he lied on the witness stand about being involved in the terrorist plot and wants to withdraw his guilty plea and go to trial. The judge turned him down.


Moussaoui said he was "extremely surprised" that he was sentenced to life in prison instead of execution and now believes he can get a fair trial from an American jury.

In a motion filed Monday, Moussaoui said he testified on March 27 that he was supposed to hijack a fifth plane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House "even though I knew that was a complete fabrication."

A federal court jury spared the 37-year-old Frenchman the death penalty last Wednesday. On Thursday, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema gave him six life sentences, to run as two consecutive life terms, in the federal supermax prison at Florence, Colo.

As she handed down the sentence, Brinkema told Moussaoui that he could appeal the life term but that she doubted he would win. "I believe it would an act of futility," she said.

The judge also pointed out that, although he could appeal the sentence, he had lost his right to appeal his conviction when he pled guilty in April 2005. "You waived that right," she said.

On Monday, Brinkema said his request to set aside his guilty plea and go back to trial on the facts of the case was "too late" under federal rules and must be rejected.

Explaining his latest reversal, Moussaoui said in an affidavit:

"I had thought I would be sentenced to death based on the emotions and anger toward me for the deaths on Sept. 11. But after reviewing the jury verdict and reading how the jurors set aside their emotions and disgust for me and focused on the law and the evidence ... I now see that it is possible that I can receive a fair trial even with Americans as jurors."

Moussaoui's court-appointed lawyers told the court that they filed the motion even though a federal rule "prohibits a defendant from withdrawing a guilty plea after imposition of sentence." They did so anyway, they said, because of their "problematic relationship with Moussaoui" and the fact that new lawyers have yet to be appointed to replace them.

The defense lawyers were not immediately available for comment Monday. Brinkema said they would be replaced after they filed any appeal Moussaoui might want.

The motion said Moussaoui told his lawyers Friday that he wanted to withdraw his guilty plea because when he entered it his "understanding of the American legal system was completely flawed."

In an attached three-page affidavit, Moussaoui cited his new opinion of American jurors and wrote that he now believes he has a fair chance "to prove that I did not have any knowledge of and was not a member of the plot to hijack planes and crash them into buildings on Sept. 11, 2001."

"I wish to withdraw my guilty plea and ask the court for a new trial to prove my innocence of the Sept. 11 plot," Moussaoui wrote. "I have never met (lead 9/11 hijacker) Mohammed Atta and, while I may have seen a few of the other hijackers ... (in Afghanistan), I never knew them or anything about their operation."

Explaining his twists and turns, Moussaoui said, "Solitary confinement made me hostile toward everyone, and I began taking extreme positions to fight the system."

Moussaoui said that, coupled with his inability to get a Muslim lawyer, led him to distrust his lawyers when they told him he could be convicted of being an al-Qaida member but acquitted of involvement in 9/11.

Moussaoui wrote that he pleaded guilty because he mistakenly thought the Supreme Court would immediately review his objection to being denied the opportunity to call captured enemy combatant witnesses to buttress his claim of not being involved in the 9/11 plot.

An appeals court agreed with the government that national security would be at risk if captured operatives like 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed testified or were even questioned by Moussaoui's lawyers. Instead, statements taken from their interrogations were read to the jury.

Shaikh Mohammed's statements said Moussaoui was never considered for the 9/11 plot, only a later attack.

Moussaoui shocked the courtroom at his sentencing trial when he recanted his four-year-old claim of having nothing to do with 9/11. When he pleaded guilty in 2005, he had explained that he was to hijack a 747 jetliner and fly it into the White House at some later date if the United States refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik who is serving a life term for terrorist acts in New York.

But when he testified, Moussaoui claimed that the 747 was to be a fifth plane hijacked on Sept. 11 and that Richard Reid, now imprisoned for a December 2001 shoe bombing attempt aboard a trans-Atlantic flight, was to be on his hijacking team.

That testimony revived the government's flagging case in the first part of the sentencing trial.

On April 3, the jury found Moussaoui eligible for the death penalty. It apparently accepted prosecutors' arguments that by withholding information from federal agents who arrested him on Aug. 16, 2001, he bore responsibility for at least one death on 9/11 by preventing the agents from identifying and stopping some hijackers.

Nevertheless, the same jury was unable to unanimously find that Moussaoui, who was in jail on 9/11, deserved execution. Three jurors wrote on the verdict form that they doubted he knew much about the 9/11 plot.

After Moussaoui's testimony, his lawyers made clear in court that they thought he was lying to achieve martyrdom through execution. Prosecutors even stipulated that the government doubted Moussaoui's claim that Reid was part of his team. And the judge told lawyers, out of the jury's hearing, that she doubted his testimony about how much he knew about the 9/11 plot.