Deporting US citizens?

[Rotadom]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1913257479234039935

 

[Politruk]

Rebuilding the nation as something that works

Trump has no idea at all how to do that!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

There's no point in telling dead people anything because they're dead.

Electric chairs run between 2-2.5kV. If you use that as the numerator in the formula above you'll see why it's fatal. No has been hurt by a 6V battery. The danger comes when the radio is plugged into an outlet which gives around 170V peak.

But we work in RMS, not peak.

 

[drusus]

But we work in RMS, not peak.

Yes we do. 170V peak is 120V RMS but I was showing the maximum that would be delivered from an outlet. Bit of a moot point either way when you're being electrocuted.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yes we do. 170V peak is 120V RMS but I was showing the maximum that would be delivered from an outlet. Bit of a moot point either way when you're being electrocuted.

Agreed, but lets not get too technical to a guy who thinks you can get electrocuted from a 6 volt radio in a tub full of water.....well maybe if the tub is filled with carbon based water...

And he did mean if it is strictly running on 6 volts DC, not plugged in to an AC source.

 

[ll74]

And also deporting Afghan Christians

https://t.co/bGrRwqyN4B

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Poor brown guys

 

[Fuzzy1975]

6v portable radio? Did you mean 9v?

There were 6 volt ones that used 4 C size batteries...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Great. Tell it to the people who die in the electric chair. Or bathtubs after their 6v portable radio falls into it.

lol.........lol.......lol.....dumbest post ever!!!

 

[ll74]

Get Out by Good Friday, Feds Say to Afghan Christians​

 

[ll74]

Hearing reports that 47 is spending Easter weekend deporting more people without due process.

Sources when I get something more than what I have.

 

[MajorRewrite]

And also deporting Afghan Christians

https://t.co/bGrRwqyN4B

Church folk learning that Trump’s goons have quotas to meet, and they are quite happy to send those Christian Afghanistan refugees to their death.

Fake Christian MAGA sheep are happy about it too.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I heard SCOTUS put on a pause deportations from a group in Texas. Not sure if that is a now a nation wide pause on deportation or only for a certain group who filed an appeal.

 

[nowisthetime]

I'm all for MAGAts separating and creating their own personal Dumbfuckingstan nation, but they mooch off blue states and they are intellectually inferior, so that's not going to happen. Plus, they are miserable people who need a scapegoat for their mediocrity which is why they latch on to orange felon. He's robbing their dumb asses blind and they don't even know it.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm all for MAGAts separating and creating their own personal Dumbfuckingstan nation, but they mooch off blue states and they are intellectually inferior, so that's not going to happen. Plus, they are miserable people who need a scapegoat for their mediocrity which is why they latch on to orange felon. He's robbing their dumb asses blind and they don't even know it.

It's not MAGA who're screeching at the tops of their lungs and other people quietly eating in restaurants with their kids...

 

[Politruk]

It's not MAGA who're screeching at the tops of their lungs

That's pretty much all they do.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Church folk learning that Trump’s goons have quotas to meet, and they are quite happy to send those Christian Afghanistan refugees to their death.

Fake Christian MAGA sheep are happy about it too.

Speaking of 'quotas", an Indonesian student detailed the latest ICE scam

• ICE pulls over an Indonesian student. "We're arresting you for overstaying your visa"
• Student, expecting this sort of bullshit, pulls certified copy of student visa out of his backpack.
• Student: "My student visa is current, it is valid through the end of the year!"
• ICE: "No. An administrative judge revoked your visa four days ago. You are now in this country illegally on an "overstayed visa".
• Student: "Why wasn't I informed?"
• ICE: "We didn't want to give you the opportunity to' lawyer up'"

 

[Lance_Castro]

“Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture, as well as many dairy and meatpacking workers.”


Hahahaha!

 

[Rotadom]

It's not MAGA who're screeching at the tops of their lungs and other people quietly eating in restaurants with their kids...

Yeah, the fuck your feelings crowd is known for the their restraint and decorum.​

 

[Escierto]

This could work in our favor. Once we have established the principle that US citizens can be packed up and shipped to any country willing to take them, once we are back in power, we should send millions of these white trash MAGAs packing.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

It's not MAGA who're screeching at the tops of their lungs and other people quietly eating in restaurants with their kids...

They should be getting punched in their stupid maga faces along with their faggot kids.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This could work in our favor. Once we have established the principle that US citizens can be packed up and shipped to any country willing to take them, once we are back in power, we should send millions of these white trash MAGAs packing.

Yah, but not to Canada, no fucking way....I heard Micronesia will take them. The cash they can make will allow the Micronesia people to relocate, when that non-existent climate change raises the ocean level to flood out their islands.

 

[dmallord]

I think the biggest problem with the "he's going to deport Americans next!!" narrative is that the ones he's talking about sending to El Sal are convicted criminals who have been sentenced to prison already.

There's nothing in the law which says that a convicted person has to be imprisoned inside the US. Or held in a US run/controlled prison. Or even a government prison.

So the basic premise in the story, utterly fails.

You call yourself a defender of the law, but your argument betrays a fundamental misunderstanding — or worse, a willful disregard — of what the rule of law actually requires.

You're defending the deportation of individuals who haven’t been charged, tried, or convicted — as if due process is some optional courtesy instead of a constitutional guarantee. In the case of Kilmar Ábrego García, a man with legal status was ripped from his life in the U.S. and dumped in a foreign prison based on flimsy, post-hoc allegations of gang affiliation. No trial. No chance to contest the accusations. No legal process whatsoever. That’s not law enforcement — that’s state-sponsored abduction.

You seem to think the ends justify the means as long as the target is someone you’ve already decided is guilty. But that’s not how our system works. The Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments don’t evaporate because someone in power, a Trump sycophant, whispers “gang member.” You don’t get to sidestep centuries of legal precedent just because you find the accused unsympathetic.

If you support actions like this — actions that strip people of their liberty without trial — then you're not standing up for the law. You're standing for authoritarianism, plain and simple. Don’t wrap it in the flag of legality. The Constitution doesn’t bend for your political convenience.

 

[dmallord]

Show us where that's happening. Show us where US PRISONERS are being treated inhumanely in a foreign country.

If you can't, it's just hypothetical fearmongering to make a political point.

You demand proof of inhumane treatment of U.S. deportees in foreign prisons, dismissing concerns as "hypothetical fearmongering." Let's examine the facts.

Take the case of Kilmar Ábrego García, a Salvadoran national with protected legal status in the U.S., who was deported to El Salvador in March 2025 under the Alien Enemies Act. Upon arrival, he was imprisoned in the Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), a facility notorious for its harsh conditions and lack of due process. CECOT has been criticized for overcrowding, inadequate medical care, and reports of torture and abuse. Inmates have been subjected to electric shocks, beatings, and prolonged isolation, with limited access to food, water, and medical treatment. Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre+2Wikipedia+2Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre+2EL PAÍS English

Furthermore, reports indicate that deportees, including Ábrego García, were transferred to these facilities without trial or the opportunity to contest the allegations against them. This bypasses fundamental legal protections and raises serious concerns about the violation of human rights and the rule of law.

Your insistence on concrete evidence of abuse before acknowledging the problem ignores the documented conditions in these prisons and the experiences of those detained. It's not fearmongering to highlight these issues; it's a necessary examination of policies that undermine legal norms and human rights.

 

[dmallord]

Ohms law doesn't take into account sweat on your skin, or lotion, or oil/grease. ANY of those things will create a circuit even with only 12v DC. And with 700-850 amps in that circuit, you're fried to crispy critter doneness in a millisecond.

Basically, you're stuck on thinking that a lab and theory is the real world. It's not. NEVER EVER bridge an electrical circuit with your body parts even if it's de-energized or some dingus on the internet tells you it's safe because it's only 12v DC and "Ohms Law" says it can't hurt you.

Those who are watching/reading this can either believe me, who advocates for safety, or some blowhard klown on the internet like you telling everyone it's perfectly safe to risk your life by playing with electricity.

Fuck even the youboob videos push disclaimers and warning to tell you not to do what they're doing for your entertainment. Here on Lit? Not so much. In fact, it's the direct opposite.

Yeah, with little to do at this hour of the morning, I asked Chtgpt the same thing you asked, and it added a little more. People here laugh at, not with you. It's because you fail to acknowledge or bend, even when wrong. Here you have some 'truth' to your quote, but still, they fail to believe you. Not because of the source you failed to cite, but because of your dogged blindness in defending lunatics. I'll give you a mulligan on this portion. Try better, or at least just don't come back into the carbon water or battery war again, please. You lose it every time.

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CHT:
You’re quoting Ohm’s Law like it’s gospel in every real-world scenario, but you’re missing the core issue: Ohm’s Law isn’t invalid — it’s incomplete without context. It only tells you what happens based on voltage, current, and resistance — but you don’t control all three of those variables in a live environment. Especially not when you're the resistor.

Let’s add some technical teeth:

1. The Human Body ≠ Fixed Resistor​

• Dry, intact skin might have a resistance of 100kΩ or more.
• Wet, sweaty, cut, or conductive-smeared skin can drop to 300–1,000Ω, and in extreme cases, as low as 100Ω — especially with contact across both arms or through the chest.

→ That drastically alters the current flowing through the body, even at low voltages.

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2. 12V Can Kill — Under the Right (Wrong) Conditions​

You say:

“12V / 1,000Ω = 12mA — not enough to hurt you.”

But if you’re gripping a tool, sweating, or bridging across the chest with 300Ω of contact resistance?

12V / 300Ω = 40mA

That’s already within the threshold where muscle control is lost and ventricular fibrillation becomes possible — especially if the current crosses the heart.

At 50–100mA, even brief exposures can be fatal.

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3. The Real Threat: Current Supply Capacity​

A car or marine battery rated for 850 cold-cranking amps can absolutely supply life-ending current if your body completes the circuit. These batteries are designed to dump hundreds of amps in milliseconds.

• Arc flash injuries, burns, and nerve damage aren’t theory — they’re documented injuries even in 12V systems with massive ampacity.
• Tools and jewelry vaporize at 12V if current surges. Think about what that does to tissue.

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4. Circuit Configuration Matters​

When people say "12V can’t hurt you," they’re imagining fingertip contact with a single terminal.

But that’s not how most real-world contact happens:

• You're holding a wrench, sweaty, arm resting on the chassis — you’re now a conductor across both terminals.
• If the current path crosses the chest or spine, the risk of cardiac arrest skyrockets.

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5. Safety Standards Don’t Back You Up​

Even OSHA and IEC 60479-1 (Effects of Current on Human Beings and Livestock) recognize that DC voltages below 50V are not inherently “safe” — they're lower risk, not no-risk. Especially with high-current sources and wet skin.

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Conclusion:​

Ohm’s Law tells part of the story — but only when you know the resistance, voltage, and path of the current. In the field, those variables are unpredictable, especially with skin contact and high-current sources like batteries or bus bars.

That’s why professionals treat even “just 12V DC” systems with caution when high current is involved. Anyone saying otherwise either hasn’t worked with serious systems, or is taking reckless shortcuts with other people’s safety.