Denial

[Ms_Lilith]

I don't mean the denial where a person just refuses to believe reality.

I'm talking about the kind of denial where a Dom/me denies His/Her submissive to engage in certain forms of behaviour... whether it be masturbation, wearing underwear, eating certain things, whatever.

*grin* I'm currently being denied masturbation.. and I love it. It's turning me on even more.


What kind of denials do You 'dish out' (for lack of any better phrase) to Your submissive? And submissives, what kinds of denial do you endure?

Dom/mes, do you enjoy watching your submissive squirm?

Subs, do you enjoy squirming?

 

[Rantalith]

vixenshe

With my last sub (currently looking for another) she was multiorgasmic, and I would not allow her to have her first orgasm until she just could not take it any more (usually about 30-40 minutes).

This always made her orgasms more intense when she was able to cum.

Just my two cents worth

 

[FungiUg]

Similarly, orgasm denial.

As a punishment, I have had a submissive lie on the bed, told her not to move, speak or cum, then licked her to the brink of orgasm over and over. I think I'm a bit soft though, because I only did it for around 10 minutes. Still, she was very sorry after that!

The other one I will do is require a submissive to play with herself once an hour or so, but only to the brink of orgasm. For a day. She's not allowed to cum until I talk to her at the end of the day. For some reason, that tends to turn her into a desperate, orgasm-craving slut.

Yum!

By the way, vixenshe, I agree with the comment about you being one of the sexiest women here. I don't know Ruby well enough to compare.

 

[MissTaken]

Hmmm Denial?

For me, any form of denial really equates to "control." If a Dominant has forbidden an orgasm or masturbation, it is His having control of those things.

Areas in which I have experienced some denial go beyond the sexual. I am thinking to the most difficult thing I have had to experience and believe it or not, it was when I was dating a vegetarian. I love my steak and when together, I was allowed only to eat vegetarian food....to the extreme.

Tofu tastes like chicken? Ya right! It chews like rubber!



Speech is another one. Not being allowed to speak unless spoken to.

My point is that all of these things reaffirm the D/s relationship.

 

[s'lara]

Withold Something and Create the Desire to Obtain It

Any form of denial immediately plants the seed of desire.

Ever realize that Y/you're out of ice cream and suddenly crave it?

The simplest form of torture is denying the very thing a person wants. Personally, i find denial by a Dominant, of anything, creates a tense situation where i am instantly made aware of my boundaries and the aching temptation of what is teasingly out of reach.

It could be orgasm denial, freedom of movement, curfews, isolation, etc. The removal of something by force instantly heightens its attractiveness which makes the removal oh so delicious to a submissive.

i hope E/everyone is doing well. Good to see Y/you.

 

[His Flower]

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Before I met Sir, I didn't really care whether or not I masterbate or cum. But after I got to know Him for awhile it became something I was very dependent on whenever He's not here. So there are times punishment means being denied cumming. And I guess yes, it's very arousing because when it comes time to see Him again, i pratically want to jump on top of Him. And of course, there are other denials....but this one is the most immense in my memory.

~His flower~

 

[Ms_Lilith]

By the way, vixenshe, I agree with the comment about you being one of the sexiest women here. I don't know Ruby well enough to compare.

Thanks.. I wasn't aware that someone had said I was.

 

[zanna]

I don't mean the denial where a person just refuses to believe reality.

I'm talking about the kind of denial where a Dom/me denies His/Her submissive to engage in certain forms of behaviour... whether it be masturbation, wearing underwear, eating certain things, whatever.

*grin* I'm currently being denied masturbation.. and I love it. It's turning me on even more.


What kind of denials do You 'dish out' (for lack of any better phrase) to Your submissive? And submissives, what kinds of denial do you endure?

Dom/mes, do you enjoy watching your submissive squirm?

Subs, do you enjoy squirming?

i look at this differently so not sure my answer will fit. i have never really thought of it in terms of denial, but Him exercising His rights over me. For example, if i want to eat anything sweet or carb rich, i have to ask first. i have never looked at it as denial, even when He tells me no. That is His right. I have been denied masturbation and did not think of that as denial either, just Him using the control He has.

i guess i just don't really think of the things He does in terms of denial, just control.

zanna

 

[FungiUg]

Sounds to me like you are in denial about denial.

 

[zanna]

Sounds to me like you are in denial about denial.

i am not quite sure if you were teasing or not...

i would have to disagree though as i am very aware...i just see it in a different light.

zanna

 

[FungiUg]

Me? Tease?

 

[s'lara]

Me? Tease?

unrelated to the thread ... that little nana just tickles me whenever i see it.

 

[chatbug]

Self Denial, Teasing

I have a question for the subs.

Let's suppose that you really crave ice cream. Your master has you sit down in a dining room chair and puts a bowl of ice cream in front of you, but tells you not to eat it. Would it be more arousing for you to sit quietly and exercise self-control, or would you enjoy the denial more if you were bound and could not eat the ice cream?

In other words, is it more arousing to control your own denial or is it more arousing to be denied something, to be teased?

 

[FungiUg]

There was a good thread on mental bondage a couple of weeks ago, which dealt with pretty much that question.

 

[His Flower]

Re: Self Denial, Teasing

I have a question for the subs.

Let's suppose that you really crave ice cream. Your master has you sit down in a dining room chair and puts a bowl of ice cream in front of you, but tells you not to eat it. Would it be more arousing for you to sit quietly and exercise self-control, or would you enjoy the denial more if you were bound and could not eat the ice cream?

In other words, is it more arousing to control your own denial or is it more arousing to be denied something, to be teased?

I think for me it'll be easier to exercise my own control of denial. Knowing that I'm sitting there doing something that I could do but don't makes me more aroused. It'll just make me happy to know that I'm doing something to please him. But I'm sure it's always arousing to be bounded as well.

~His flower~

 

[primes]

I don't mean the denial where a person just refuses to believe reality.

I'm talking about the kind of denial where a Dom/me denies His/Her submissive to engage in certain forms of behaviour... whether it be masturbation, wearing underwear, eating certain things, whatever.

*grin* I'm currently being denied masturbation.. and I love it. It's turning me on even more.


What kind of denials do You 'dish out' (for lack of any better phrase) to Your submissive? And submissives, what kinds of denial do you endure?

Dom/mes, do you enjoy watching your submissive squirm?

Subs, do you enjoy squirming?

i like her tied up and played with all over her body, but no penetration, even though she craves it

 

[Bachlum Chaam]

I tend to like the denial of orgasm best I think brought to the brink then stopped,makes it better when the final release happens

 

[MasterNJS]

Denials

Denial of masturbation (anti-tinker rule) or orgasm are certainly events that create intense anticipation in the submissive during or as a prelude to scening, but I was especially interested in the other activites that were mentioned in the begining of the thread........ namely the vanilla-type activities, like denial of eating certain foods or wearing of certain clothing (pantiesboxers/briefs, trying to be gender-correct).........I like to determine the "vanity" activities, such as hair or nail grooming, and deny them for a protracted period of time.........the dominant can determine if this is going to be an effective activity usually by the utterance of the words "are you serious"?????.........one of the reasons that I do so like to deny these "vanity" activities, is that they come with a built-in deterrent for non-compliance, namely alteration of the hair color/lenght/style or short-clipping of the nails..........cant you hear the whining now????????

re-reading this post, it comes to mind that the current discussion focuses on the actual activity denied.......but not much about the CONSEQUENCES for non-compliance????.......can some of you folks re-visit your posts and discuss this????

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ

 

[MasterNJS]

Denials Re-Visited

ok.....so I have a bad case of DIARRHEA of the mouth today......one of My fav activities to restrict is the expulsion of an enema......the breathing (well, panting, really), the whinning and begging are sooooOOOOoo delicious as the submissive attempts to contol thru mind over matter, what the body does NATURALLY and quite easily...eliminate......to ASSure that the submissive complies, the consequence of non-compliance is a FREE RE-FILL......(thats NEVER a WASTE of time)

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ

 

[His Flower]

Re: Denials

re-reading this post, it comes to mind that the current discussion focuses on the actual activity denied.......but not much about the CONSEQUENCES for non-compliance????.......can some of you folks re-visit your posts and discuss this????

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ

To answer your question MasterNJS, I don't think I've ever non-complied to something he told me to do. Sure, I'll whine, throw a fit, pout, and do all those things that I try to do that might cause him to change his mind; but then what's the point, in the end I still don't get my way.

There was once though I cum despite him telling me I couldn't. I ended being denied cumming for another week. So I think I've learned my lesson, because doing something he tells me not to do only makes matters worse.

Hope that answers your question.

~His Flower~

 

[Bachlum Chaam]

Re: Denials

re-reading this post, it comes to mind that the current discussion focuses on the actual activity denied.......but not much about the CONSEQUENCES for non-compliance????.......can some of you folks re-visit your posts and discuss this????

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ [/B]

I think that non compliance is not option,simply wouldn't allow it.Alas my lady His Flower put it much more succinctly than I ever could.Well done my lady

 

[Croctden]

Re: Denials

..., but I was especially interested in the other activites that were mentioned in the begining of the thread........ namely the vanilla-type activities, like denial of eating certain foods or wearing of certain clothing (pantiesboxers/briefs, trying to be gender-correct).......

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ

I once had a sub I messed with by telling her should could not wear green on Mondays, purple on Thursday, or red and blue on the same day [or something along those lines]. If she messed up out came the belt. At first she had a terrible time keeping it straight, but eventually I spanked the rules into her memory. Later I changed the colors to trip her up.

 

[Etoile]

Wow, reading all this has got me excited and wishing for some denial of my own, something I don't get often enough. (No, really. I'm pretty spoiled, to my own chagrin.)

But I must protest on the vegetarianism point. I've been a vegetarian for nearly 10 years and I'm not bored yet! And nobody ever said tofu tasted like chicken that I'm aware of, though with the proper seasonings one can do a lot.

 

[FungiUg]

Wow, reading all this has got me excited and wishing for some denial of my own, something I don't get often enough. (No, really. I'm pretty spoiled, to my own chagrin.)

You must be spoiled to get away with using words like "chagrin"!

 

[MissTaken]

Re: Denials

re-reading this post, it comes to mind that the current discussion focuses on the actual activity denied.......but not much about the CONSEQUENCES for non-compliance????.......can some of you folks re-visit your posts and discuss this????

ΞМãşŧëѓŊĴŞΞ

It seems to me that infractions range from the recreational to the serious, "You messed up" sort of infractions.

If I can't control that orgasm and have to let it go, the Dominant may enjoy the fact that he has so aroused me as to do so. Perhaps a playful spanking and punishment scene?

For serious infractions, the spanking, the deprivation of his company, or a non playful spanking scene complete with lecturing and reminders about how disappointed the Dominant is , work well for me. Especially when in subspace.

Speaking out of turn may lead to "the look" or a light slap to the mouth to remind me of the rule. In both situations, it is effective.

So, Dominants, does it really matter how your submissive feels when you deny her something, or does it only matter how it makes you feel?

Your head rush is more important, yes?