Define trolling

Alex De Kok said:
Not just the 'Loving Wives' - my brand new Nude Day Contest 'First Time' story, too, lol :)

Alex


My entry as well, Alex. At first I took it personal until I found out Don wasn't just picking on me, specifically. Then I almost got excited thinking I was being accepted into the "bombed" group of Don's victims. :D It's almost like a badge of honor.
 
If you vote to on a grudge, regardless of whether you vote the grudge low or you vote everyone else high, you need to stop voting. If you can't vote a story on its own merits, don't vote.
 
Edward Teach said:
Now everybody not only knows how to troll but how to troll effectively.

This would make a good "How To."


Ed

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You would also know that hell has frozen over when trolls run around giving everyone 5s :D

But the only stories trolled would be the those receiving 5s, because the other story score is untouched. Unless you look at intent. And computer programs don't pick it up.

But I've never had a problem with trolls except the usual around the 15th of the month, then it is fast and furious :D (will check scores later!)
 
It would be trolling because you didn't read the story.

If you read the story and somewhere in there you don't forget you think this writer is a schmuck then you can give them a 1 without calling it trolling. Although I would go with a 3... it's more effective, because a 1 is dismissed, a 3 makes the writer think you read their story and thought it was 'just okay'.


Sincerely,
ElSol
 
R. Richard said:
In my mind anything that is done to hurt someone's score without any explanation or inadequate explanation is trolling. If I don't like a story and just give it a 1, I am trolling. If I don't like a story and gvie the writer feedback like, "You are pathetic, learn to write!" than I am trolling. If I give a story a 1 and tell the writer, "There are so many errors in spelling, grammar and pucntuation I can bearly read the story. Also, you start out calling your main characters Ken and Barbie and wind up calling them Dora and Don with no expalantion." then I am not trolling, but making editorial content.

Just a quick note to say that in the interest of fairness and goodwill, I tried doing this today. I got through three before I couldn't stand it any more - and that was responding only to stories whose titles and descriptions had seemed at least a little appealing. It's no light work trying not to utterly crush someone's aspirations while also trying to point out what's wrong with a story written entirely in an ungrammatical, poorly spelled second person POV with no description more enticing or detailed than "she was really hot and dressed sexy." In the interest of fairness I chose neither to vote nor to comment the one that featured a hysterectomy, a dull synopsis of middle-aged marital communication problems, and a clogged toilet, on the grounds that however un-erotic I might find those topics, there was some chance that someone else might find them interestingly realistic.

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that it's painful enough reading stories that deserve a 1 or a 2. It's cruelty to expect people to also offer a substantial and yet tactful critique of them.

Shanglan
 
trolling

I always thought this was yanking people's chains, starting fights.

Vandalisation through '1's' can be a problem. But the overall problems are two:

1)General vandals (e.g., who hit all top stories), or those (who hit all but) with one preferred ending.

2)Competitive vandals seeking to upgrade their or their friends stories or hurt the competition.

The effects of general vandals often 'wash out' or are deleted by the Lit. 'powers.'

OTOH, the Lit powers do not bother with categories which are absurdly high in rationgs, a sort of 'clubby' phenomenon. This is far more common, and it's almost laughable to see dozens of stories at or above 4.8.

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As to the competitive vandals, there are a variety of techniques, again giving ones friends (or alter egos, various screennames) lots of 5s being the most common. It's hard to fight this kind of thing, which essentially creates self perpetuating cliques. The only 'justice' is that the outside world is often unimpressed with the King or Queen of a local playground.
 
The trolling crap happens to me all the time. I just try to do my best and ignore it.

But I will be honest and say that sometimes, I deserve it ...
 
I have tried to come up with a system to keep the votes that I give reasonably consistent, but my idea of starting at three and going up one for every time I laugh, get angry (at the right character), or whatever other strong emotion i feel, And going down one for big errors (not typos or a missing comma) or just plain bad writing. ended up giving almost everyone fives.

I guess we need less talented authors to get my system to work :)
 
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