Death By Firing Squad

[Ramone45]

What do you suppose it is like? Is loss of consciousness or death instantaneous? Does the condemned even hear the gunshot? Do they use big powerful guns? Do they use hollow point bullets? What is the condemned's body like? Is it ripped apart? Is there alot of blood? The cause of death would be blood loss, basically. After the bullets penetrate the heart, does blood pressure drop immediately? Is there any chance the condemned feels anything? I've seen videos of Chinese Executions where the condemned receives a bullet to the back of the head. That seems instantaneous. They usually set it up so the body falls right into a grave that the condemned may have dug him/herself. It seems efficient.

 

[MisterSir]

A fetish of yours this might be, but it's got fuck all to do with BDSM. Take it elsewhere.

 

[Ramone45]

Really? This is the ultimate in BDSM. Am I wrong? There is bondage. Sadism in the form of an institution executing a person. Discipline, certainly; the ultimate form. Masochism-maybe on the part of the condemned.

 

[ecstaticsub]

Really? This is the ultimate in BDSM. Am I wrong? There is bondage. Sadism in the form of an institution executing a person. Discipline, certainly; the ultimate form. Masochism-maybe on the part of the condemned.

You are wrong. BDSM is all about consent. What you are talking about does not.

 

[Ramone45]

Oh, I see.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Read Norman Mailer's The Executioner's Song.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Really? This is the ultimate in BDSM. Am I wrong?

Yes..

 

[satindesire]

*facepalm* Why did I open this thread?!

 

[Sir_Winston54]

*facepalm* Why did I open this thread?!

Because you're a masochist?

 

[bambikiller]

From my experience (not being the one shot) when the bullet strikes the heart it is instanious death.
You probably won't find much of the heart left.
Think of a massive heart attack times ten.
The body imeditly falls to the ground no movement, no involintary twiching.
Nothing.

Fireing squad,
There were five of them.
He was strapped to a chair.
What I've heard in the past is that only one of the members of the fireing squad has a bullet in his gun the others have blanks.
They all aim for the same spot.
They do this so there is aways some doubt as who actualy killed the man so it doesn't fuck up the fireing squads members minds.

 

[EbonyGoddess1987]

What do you suppose it is like? Is loss of consciousness or death instantaneous? Does the condemned even hear the gunshot? Do they use big powerful guns? Do they use hollow point bullets? What is the condemned's body like? Is it ripped apart? Is there alot of blood? The cause of death would be blood loss, basically. After the bullets penetrate the heart, does blood pressure drop immediately? Is there any chance the condemned feels anything? I've seen videos of Chinese Executions where the condemned receives a bullet to the back of the head. That seems instantaneous. They usually set it up so the body falls right into a grave that the condemned may have dug him/herself. It seems efficient.

Try it. lol.

 

[DVS]

Sorry, I decided to delete my posts. We don't need this kind of thing here.

 

[DVS]

Just like the above post, I have had second thoughts.

 

[chy_girl]

Try it. lol.

that's not very funny. or very nice.

 

[Bette_coquette]

I read an article written by one of the witnesses to the execution. The condemned did clench his fist, then pulled an arm up twice before expiring. Even if the heart is pulverized, there is enough oxygen in the brain for awareness until the brain becomes oxygen starved, then the world fades to black.

I did some research on death by lethal injection. It seems to me that firing squad is much more fool-proof than LI and more humane.

That said, I am against the death penalty.

 

[YourCaptor]

I'm so often surprised by how things in the body respond, I'm not even surprised I'm surprised anymore.

Firing squad could probably result in anything from the guy surviving it to instant death. A quick death is probably most common otherwise they wouldn't use it. If the heart is destroyed their wouldn't be much blood, no pressure to pump it out. Oxygenation would end, tissues would starve. It takes about 90 seconds of brain starvation to kill the organism, however around 5 - 15 seconds the they would already be unconscious.

The most likely "cause" of death in my opinion is no blood circulation.

But like I said, I would not be surprised if it was some other crazy thing.

 

[bambikiller]

I had a very good friend of mine shot in the heart, he didn't survive nor do I think he suffered.
I've shot aminmals in the heart, if the caliber is sufficent and the bullet placement hits the heart dead center.
It's gone.
Now I did shoot a wild bore.
I went for the perfect shot of taking it's front leg out and having the bullet land in it's heart.
I was amazed to see that animal run a 100' before it exspired.
The bullet sent a chunk of arm bone in to its heart.
but the bullet a 44 went astray.
Head shots I put a 50 Cal. slug through the temple of a deer and it came out it's ear. I cracked it's skull in half.
I had to put that animal out of it's miserey with my knife.

Heart shot the best.

Know we are all talking about how this creep died.
What about his victim.

 

[bambikiller]

I looked it up he killed two people.
and he was shot with.

One of the .30 caliber rifles used in the execution contained a blank, allowing the executioners to retain some doubt over whether or not they fired a fatal round into Gardner's chest.

 

[Etoile]

I just recently read an article about a guy who was part of a firing squad. He loved his work. The team of five had four bullets and one dead round, which has the same recoil as a live round, unlike blanks. If I can find the article again, I'll share it.

Will move this to cafe asap.

 

[graceanne]

*facepalm* Why did I open this thread?!

For the same reason I did. To see why everyone else was opening this thread.



Someday I'll learn. Really, I will.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Will move this to cafe asap.

How about moving it to the GB instead? I see absolutely no relationship between the OP and our topics.

 

[Etoile]

How about moving it to the GB instead? I see absolutely no relationship between the OP and our topics.

We can talk about it too...hence putting it in the cafe.

 

[Vixandra]

I've no problem with death by firing squad. Its cheaper then electrocution and quicker then lethal injection with the added bonus of even if the guy has crappy veins, it doesn't matter.

Honestly, if more violent crimes were punished more drastically, if PUBLIC cruel and unusual punishment were an actual tool used by the justice system, crime would go down.

 

[satindesire]

I've no problem with death by firing squad. Its cheaper then electrocution and quicker then lethal injection with the added bonus of even if the guy has crappy veins, it doesn't matter.

Honestly, if more violent crimes were punished more drastically, if PUBLIC cruel and unusual punishment were an actual tool used by the justice system, crime would go down.

I absolutely agree with this 100%.

I'm not breaking into women's houses and raping them, I'm not molesting children and I'm not murdering people...so I have nothing to fear about these kinds of punishments. If punishment were more severe, I sincerely believe more people would think twice before committing a major crime.

 

[Homburg]

I've no problem with death by firing squad. Its cheaper then electrocution and quicker then lethal injection with the added bonus of even if the guy has crappy veins, it doesn't matter.

Not really. Electricity is cheap, and the capacitors used mean the incoming voltage could actually be relatively small. Plain old household 220v can kill you in the right circumstances. And the chemicals used in lethal injection are likewise cheap. Rope for hanging is cheap too, as is a vat full of water for drowning.

Cost of execution methods should never be a factor in capital punishment argument. The real cost is bourne by the courts in the mandatory appeals process. That is where the money is. If you really want to save money, don't fret about how expensive chemicals for lethal injection are. You will save vastly more money by ditching the death penalty and keeping them in prison until they die. It is actually cheaper to feed and house a prisoner for 50-odd years than it is to go through the mandatory appeals process.

Honestly, if more violent crimes were punished more drastically, if PUBLIC cruel and unusual punishment were an actual tool used by the justice system, crime would go down.

On the lower level crimes, possibly. Public floggings a la Malaysia might have some effect on minor crimes. On the higher level crimes it actually tends to escalate. Draconian punishments leads to greater levels of infraction simply because you know if you are caught that the punishment will be crazily severe, so why not push the envelope?

An example would be death penalty for rape. Institute that and you will find more rapists killing their victims after or during the rape. Why leave a witness that can implicate you when death is the penalty for getting caught?

Reducing crime requires societal changes on a huge level, and are often very contraintuitive. Prisons, for example, are often called upon by society to not "coddle" prisoners and make conditions harsh. This leads to greater unrest within the prisons, more violence, more drug use, and convicts that are even harder and more dangerous when they get out than they were when they got in. Yet prisons with better conditions that actively educate, train, and certify inmates to do jobs such as carpentry, electrical work, etc have vastly lower recidivism rates. Those guys leave the pen and get jobs unlike the hardcases from the no-coddling prisons.

As a culture, we have such a flawed understanding of the punishment side of the old "crime and punishment" saw. The average person would not understand deterrence if it bit them on the ass. "Punishment" as a goal is pointless. The goal should be lessening crime. They are two different animals.