Daddy's Rules

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It's a story I read here on Lit today, in the Incest section. It has some lovely elements of BDSM in it, and I'd like to recommend it. It is rather long (3 parts, but in one story) but I think it's truly worth the read.
 
I'm always iffy about incest. It can be a turn on to read, but the idea of sex with my sisters? No way! *shudder*

Thanks for the tip though -- I'll go look it up.
 
FungiUg said:
I'm always iffy about incest.

Me too. But in an aside, (minor hijack here) someone I know who has a Daddy kink told me it wasn't the incest that turned her on, it was the control. Someone (looking all innocent) pointed her to some bdsm websites and now she has a Mistress and a Daddy and is deleriously happy. So I wonder... How many incest fans aren't in it for the incest taboo, they're in it for the control thing?
 
I guess that could well be true of the school-teacher thing as well. Those images become associated with figures of control, and hence the fascination.

I guess with me, I like the idea of an older women teaching a younger male the joys of sex (why, oh why, did that never happen to me?) Many incest stories are like that, which is why I enjoy them.

Er, not that I read many incest stories -- I tend to trawl the BDSM, Mind-control and Anal sections.

Currently reading some new additions to the Training of Michelle by Singularity (one of my fave BDSM stories.)
 
I'm into Daddy-daughter incest *stories, roleplay, and fantasy only* because of the taboo... there's an entire psychological explanation behind it...
 
There are psychological explanations for most things. Sometimes you just have to say "because it's fun!" and go for it.
 
FungiUg said:
There are psychological explanations for most things. Sometimes you just have to say "because it's fun!" and go for it.

oh I know.. I enjoy incest stories for fun, but one day, I sat down and analyzed why... interesting, the things you learn when you psychoanalyze yourself.
 
I did some counselling sessions when I broke up with my ex-wife. I'm not sure whether they helped in the immediate sense (dealing with grief is only cured by time), but it was a lot of fun to learn about myself! Exploring the innards of your mind can be fascinating.

So, wanna share? What are the psychological reasons?
 
This is what I came up with, and no one might understand, but...

I lost my virginity to rape. In many of the fantasies that I've had of incest, it was my dad teaching me, gently... it was kind and gentle, and loving... and that is what I see in many incest stories as well. I would never actually sleep with a family member, but.. the ideas of gentleness and of real love there... it's a comfort.
 
That makes a lot of sense. Being taught your sexuality by someone in whose love you are secure... perfect sense.

I've read a lot of Robert A. Heinlein, who seems to be an advocate of incest, provided that there are no genetic problems with pregnancies. Me... I think the whole idea is too prone to abuse.

But it can make a fantastic fantasy.
 
to me it is trust~~ i've thought about this too, tremendous self-analysis throughout the past year..i too wondered about my forbidden father/daughter fantasies~~ the trust a child has for her father (prior to ego growth&dev), the fearless, pure, unconditional, love she IS and SEES (TRUST) is the basis of all human relationships... not only is this not an incest issue at it's deepest level (imo) but rather it is a desire to feel this most profound, most sought, most magnificent, most divine, most powerful, most unconditional, most harmonious, most cooperative, most self-less timeless expansive transformative LOVE~~~~~~~~~ and the Father role is 'the daughter's' image of GOD because she still sees the Father as every human being is~~ PURE LOVE..
goodness, i'm on a roll today *rubbing her hands over her face..heavy sigh* ok, love to you ALLLL!!!!!!
 
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Role playing isn't any fun without roles. Sure, you can do Ds with nothing but your names, or you can throw other fun stuff in. Most people do the "Master/slave" thing but it's not obligatory. It may be Mommy/child (or Daddy/daughter), Teacher/pupil, or whatever. The point is, it's usualy an authority figure with an underling.
 
Well, I read the story in question, and... it was okay. There were a few others by the same author that I preferred, although he verges too much on the non-consensual for my preference.
 
vixenshe said:
It's a story I read here on Lit today, in the Incest section. It has some lovely elements of BDSM in it, and I'd like to recommend it. It is rather long (3 parts, but in one story) but I think it's truly worth the read.

Can you tell me where the story is?
 
Arden said:
I recently read one woman's story of her relationship with her "Daddy Dom." It was very interesting...

http://www.subspace.cc/daddy.html


Fascinating link arden... thanks.


The opening about the common response ("YUK!") is interesting to me. I always wonder how many people respond in that way in the open because that's the socially acceptable thing, while behind the scenes a whole other side exists.
 
my two cents worth...

the incest stories or the taste for a Daddy Dom fills a different need in each of us...due to our past experiences...as this is the essence of who we are.

the significance for many submissives is obvious with the control factor....

and as vixenshe and ethereal~minx pointed out...it could be trust or the unconditional love you feel from a father figure..who will protect you and that is something to bask in.....

in my experience....i think my interest would be more to rewrite history in a more favorable light...i grew up in a home that was far less than loving in terms of my father...i was beaten on a pretty regular basis....torn apart emotionally...made to feel like my accomplishments were less than satisfactory and that nothing i ever did would be good enough... maybe...that's what it is about for me...to get what i felt was missing when i was a little girl...and also to feel like i have some control over it...am i still going to get a beating?(sure hope so)....yes...but it was something i "consented" to...something i had a form of control over....

so i guess what i'm saying...is to pinpoint the ONE reason someone enjoys/finds comfort/leans to....this type of thing....would be as vast a responsiblity as interviewing and analyzing each person who enjoys it....and also...those who strongly oppose it...as something in their past surely leads them to that feeling as well....
 
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My brief input:

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned elsewhere that Daddy is my Daddy (and not another term) because there's a 20-year age gap. It's not specifically an incest thing - though the taboo is fun to play with, especially when Daddy's neighbors were having a party outdoors and I was being really loud! Instead it's just the truth, Daddy could be my Daddy. It's true that my mother was a single parent when I was ages 5 to 12, but I don't feel a particular lack of father figure that I'm now trying to compensate for.
 
There are only two kinds of Daddies that my brain can assimilate when I do bottom.

One, a bio female Daddy.

Two, a Gay bio male or FTM Daddy.

I think, for me, having a *queer* Daddy is a necessity. In the re-write of my origins, when I try for psychic infancy, I want a very queer, extended, non-traditional family.

Heteronormative boy goes on the bottom, this time, of course. I'm quite on the top, until faced with someone with so much more obvious experience and power than I have. And it's the power that's harder to quantify that I mean.

Master/Mistress scares me. It's Daddy that I can be inspired to do things for.

*sigh* I almost miss having a Daddy.
 
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Netzach said:
There are only two kinds of Daddies that my brain can assimilate when I do bottom.

One, a bio female Daddy.

Two, a Gay bio male or FTM Daddy.

I think, for me, having a *queer* Daddy is a necessity. In the re-write of my origins, when I try for psychic infancy, I want a very queer, extended, non-traditional family.

Heteronormative boy goes on the bottom, this time, of course. I'm quite on the top, until faced with someone with so much more obvious experience and power than I have. And it's the power that's harder to quantify that I mean.

Master/Mistress scares me. It's Daddy that I can be inspired to do things for.

*sigh* I almost miss having a Daddy.

Have to ask a couple of questions about this post Netzach. As always, you have the option not to respond.

Is the Gay bio male less threatening and a kind of insurance that your Dominant side won't suffer any real damage while bottoming?

What is a FTM please? Acronym challenged. (*nods to AA on the diff. between abbreviations and acronyms)

Thanks in advance.

lara
 
Happy to answer, although it's nice to know I don't *have* to. :)

The Gay bio Daddy is actually far *more* threatening to my Dominance, and makes the exchange much headier. The lack of sexual interest objectifies me more, leaves me no charms or sexual "prize" to manipulate with. It insures my own obedience and makes my ache to please more poignant, because sex is not the only way to do it, or even necessarily a viable way at all. If I'm good it's because I'm good in a wholostic, substantial way, not just because I'm sexy.

The two straight male Tops I've played with were both more than happy to be manipulated like putty in my paws. I've had
a harder time getting M to do what I want, I'm not kidding. Maybe I've not met the right guy, but I decided then and there I don't really care to.

FTM female-to-male as in transgendered female-born person who presents as a male.
 
Netzach said:
Happy to answer, although it's nice to know I don't *have* to. :)

The Gay bio Daddy is actually far *more* threatening to my Dominance, and makes the exchange much headier. The lack of sexual interest objectifies me more, leaves me no charms or sexual "prize" to manipulate with. It insures my own obedience and makes my ache to please more poignant, because sex is not the only way to do it, or even necessarily a viable way at all. If I'm good it's because I'm good in a wholostic, substantial way, not just because I'm sexy.

The two straight male Tops I've played with were both more than happy to be manipulated like putty in my paws. I've had
a harder time getting M to do what I want, I'm not kidding. Maybe I've not met the right guy, but I decided then and there I don't really care to.

FTM female-to-male as in transgendered female-born person who presents as a male.

:) Thanks for the response Netzach. Put in that perspective, particularly the comment about manipulation through sexuality, it does seem the Dominant side of you would be backed in to a corner. If you're no longer able to rely on feminine wiles as an out, what are you left with? Sort of takes your choices down to nil and the submission gets "real." Whatever that means.

Also, thanks for the translation.
 
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