CuntClinton and BzerkBerbie both complain about excessive CEO pay,

[Busybody]

OUCH: Hillary and Bernie both complain about excessive CEO pay, but the average CEO makes less in a year than Hillary’s speaking fee for an hour.

 

[Tigersman]

Top CEO

Pay is ridiculously super high. They are being paid in the 10s of millions. In my opinion they are not worth it. Instead of paying them this much, use the money to either pay off debt or purchase new machinery.

 

[Aella_]

Also too many chiefs and too few indians.
The only smart move that I've seen a CEO do (when asked to mind the institutions' budget) was to reduce the nomber of top-level managers. Instead of the typical move of cutting funds for the areas in need.
((In saying that, his sallary stayed the same.))

 

[Busybody]

so

 

[Busybody]

why attack CEOs and nevr entertainers and athletes?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Pay is ridiculously super high. They are being paid in the 10s of millions. In my opinion they are not worth it. Instead of paying them this much, use the money to either pay off debt or purchase new machinery.

Maybe you should be thinking in terms of percentage of the amount of spending and revenue that they manage during the act of producing the goods and services that people will voluntarily pay for...



Focusing on how much, if you look deep into your thought process, is nothing more than pure envy.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

why attack CEOs and nevr entertainers and athletes?

Exactly.



We like athletes. They entertain us, they deserve to be mega-rich rawk stars...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Also too many chiefs and too few indians.
The only smart move that I've seen a CEO do (when asked to mind the institutions' budget) was to reduce the nomber of top-level managers. Instead of the typical move of cutting funds for the areas in need.
((In saying that, his sallary stayed the same.))

Why don't we say that about the rapidly expanding pool of college administrators and professors whose pay, and more importantly, benefits, retirement plans, that are expanding exponentially, with some states, like Illinois, having lost the ability to pay these bloated pensions in the near future.

Oh no! It's for the children! That's a good way to get rich.

Even better, is when you get into politics and you manage to become a multi-millionaire, and you're a Democrat, well half of this nation stays absolutely silent on that issue, especially when the evil CEO bribes them with 6-figure speaking fees...

 

[Aella_]

why attack CEOs and nevr entertainers and athletes?

Good point, actually.
And since their job carries more responsibility & needs solid skills and qualifications, in theory CEO's would even more deserving of a high salary, compared to footballers etal.

Unfortunately - like any job that gives one power and money (surgeon, policemen, politicians etc.) such a job attracts high-functioning psychopaths too. Who end up using their job either for personal gain, or being too ruthless in dealing with people.
Not saying that All CEO's are psychopaths. But unfortunately, the astronomic salaries and power would naturally attract the shrudest and most skilled (therefore dangerous) psychopaths.

People wouldn't mumble so much about CEO's salaries, if so many weren't so ruthless in dealing with people. I personally came across many nice managers, but most of them were middle to low-level managers; whereas the top-dogs were - almost as a rule - assholes.

 

[Aella_]

Why don't we say that about the rapidly expanding pool of college administrators and professors whose pay, and more importantly, benefits, retirement plans, that are expanding exponentially, with some states, like Illinois, having lost the ability to pay these bloated pensions in the near future.

Oh no! It's for the children! That's a good way to get rich.

Even better, is when you get into politics and you manage to become a multi-millionaire, and you're a Democrat, well half of this nation stays absolutely silent on that issue, especially when the evil CEO bribes them with 6-figure speaking fees...

Hah! I posted my reply to BB before seeing your post.

I personally have no problem with other people's salaries, be they head janitor or Noble prize winner. (Why would I, as long as that doesn't affect me directly?)
But it annoys me when I see assholes rewarded for ruining people's lives in order to help the company make 3.002 millions instead of 3.000 millions.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hah! I posted my reply to BB before seeing your post.

I personally have no problem with other people's salaries, be they head janitor or Noble prize winner. (Why would I, as long as that doesn't affect me directly?)
But it annoys me when I see assholes rewarded for ruining people's lives in order to help the company make 3.002 millions instead of 3.000 millions.

If you care about a dollar amount over a percentage, then it is just envy.

The assholes ruining people's lives for profit is just a mythical type of sophism, sounds nice, sounds real, and is easy to believe and the more people that believe it, the more believable it gets.

John Stossel related this story some years ago [para]: I made my name by busting bad business practices on the local level. When I went national, I just knew I was going to take down big companies now. The problem is that they are so focused on their brand and products, i.e., sales, that they actually act above-board as not to damage their market share. If they lay some people off, it is usually not to make a greater profit (which is not what we should be focused on), but to maintain the necessary profit margin. In most cases, those laid off are the more marginal employees, who with just a little more diligence and effort, could have turned themselves into more valuable employees...

 

[Aella_]

Indeed.
And it might be that the Public's distaste for CEO's comes from being familiar only with the -bad-cases that are fed to us by the media.

Like the Wallmart issues (if I'm not mistaken, they said that they purposefully employ people only with half-norm, so that they wouldn't have to pay them benefits. Which places the burden on the Public, because those employees end up taking those benefits from the State. Or something like that.)

Or -in my part of the world- there were these highly publicized cases of CEO's who've been ruthless with their employees or the public's benefits, while stealing Millions from their companies.
And I'm not talking only about banks; there were also CEO's who were heads of 2 Hospitals. And not all the money could be recuperated. Imagine that - while patients suffered unnecessarily or even died because the waiting lists at the Emergency Dept. or for Surgery were too long, or the workers were understaffed therefore not coping.

 

[Busybody]

Pay is ridiculously super high. They are being paid in the 10s of millions. In my opinion they are not worth it. Instead of paying them this much, use the money to either pay off debt or purchase new machinery.

Maybe entertainment figures n soorts figures shoilf be paid ten percent of what they do get paid so more can afford it

 

[Busybody]

OUCH: Hillary and Bernie both complain about excessive CEO pay, but the average CEO makes less in a year than Hillary’s speaking fee for an hour.

You all overlook THIS

WHY

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I think you are very right on that.



You do not see a whole lot of stories on good CEOs unless they are like that Liberal idiot who pretty much bankrupted himself by raising his company's minimum wage to CEO-level pay for all employees...





When it comes to ruthless...

(aside from thinking of Hillary Clinton)

... always keep in mind that employment with any company is not compulsory. If people stay, then they are wiling to trade treatment for wages; it is a choice.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You all overlook THIS

WHY

No, I have mentioned indirectly in a couple of posts now...

 

[Aella_]

You all overlook THIS

WHY

Lmao… .I see that BB just called us to attention because we sidetracked his thread.
We'd better do what the Boss says, then.

 

[Busybody]

Indirectly means shit

That was the whole point

CuntClinton and Dick Clitman make 76k per day, doing WHAT?

Where is the outcry

BZerkBernie's ugly cunt stole millions from her College

But the See eee OOOZZZ

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Lmao… .I see that BB just called us to attention because we sidetracked his thread.
We'd better do what the Boss says, then.

He just wants an opportunity to both belabor the point and to prove that he can be bat-guano crazy at times...

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[miles]

Liberals simply can't stop looking into another man's pockets and demanding their fair share.

People are paid according to their value in the open market.

Period.

 

[Busybody]

Or what graft they can bring

Like CuntClinton

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Liberals simply can't stop looking into another man's pockets and demanding their fair share.

People are paid according to their value in the open market.

Period.

Not entirely true as noted above. It is the person who makes his money in ways that they do not understand because he is producing goods and services, not social benefits...

 

[Aella_]

Indirectly means shit
the See eee OOOZZZ

He just wants an opportunity to both belabor the point and to prove that he can be bat-guano crazy at times...

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BZerkBernie's ugly cunt stole millions from her College

If that's true, I would be shocked. He came across as the real thing from what I saw on youtube.
But I don't see much evidence about that on the net. Either it's typical campaign slandering, or he was good at covering his tracks.

 

[miles]

Not entirely true as noted above. It is the person who makes his money in ways that they do not understand because he is producing goods and services, not social benefits...

They childishly believe rich people accumulate wealth at the expense of someone else.

 

[miles]

Wasn't it Michelle Obama who was paid $300K as the VP of Community Affairs at the University of Chicago Hospital?

Give it a rest.