Cuckold or Not?

[RetroFan]

The term cuckold mainly describes married men whose wives cheat on them and their wives' infidelity turns them on, much like a fetish.

There are lots of different cheating stories on this site - cuckolding, both partners cheating, cheating without the other partner's knowledge, couples being in open relationships or swingers and revenge stories where the cheating partner is held accountable for their infidelity.

However, I'm writing a bit of an unusual one at the moment that doesn't seem to come up as often, where a husband knows that his floozy of a wife (an absolute Jezebel) is cheating on him and hates it, but does nothing about it other than stew in his own bitterness and resentment and the wife gets away with her adultery and promiscuous behaviour.

Would this guy be a cuckold or not? Knowing how angry readers of cheating wives stories on this site can get, I wouldn't want to mislabel the story.

 

[SimonDoom]

The term cuckold mainly describes married men whose wives cheat on them and their wives' infidelity turns them on, much like a fetish.

There are lots of different cheating stories on this site - cuckolding, both partners cheating, cheating without the other partner's knowledge, couples being in open relationships or swingers and revenge stories where the cheating partner is held accountable for their infidelity.

However, I'm writing a bit of an unusual one at the moment that doesn't seem to come up as often, where a husband knows that his floozy of a wife (an absolute Jezebel) is cheating on him and hates it, but does nothing about it other than stew in his own bitterness and resentment and the wife gets away with her adultery and promiscuous behaviour.

Would this guy be a cuckold or not? Knowing how angry readers of cheating wives stories on this site can get, I wouldn't want to mislabel the story.

My take on this: Write your story, which sounds unusual and complex (and therefore interesting) without worrying about labels. Some people would consider this a cuckold story. Some would not. All of their arguments will, in the end, say more about them than it will about your story.

I think your story will get a lot of pushback from Literotica readers, so be prepared for that. But if you've got a good story idea, that doesn't matter.

The people who like hot wife stories will have a problem with the fact that the husband isn't enjoying his wife's activity.

The BTB crowd will be angry that he doesn't get his revenge and act "like a man."

There is no way whatsoever to please everyone with a story like this, so write it so you please yourself.

If you are tagging the story, you might try tagging it as "cuckold" and "unhappy cuckold" or something like that, and see how it flies.

If you don't flag it as a cuckold story the anti-cuckold readers will flock to it and get mad that the husband doesn't do more to get revenge.

 

[RetroFan]

Thanks Simon, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

The LW crew seem to be angrier than usual at the moment, I saw them tearing apart two stories where a husband meekly submits to his wife bringing her boyfriend into the house to live with her, and the bullying boyfriend treats him like a servant; and another where the wife's cheating involved scat fetishism.

 

[NoJo]

Yes, well, "Loving wives" your story ain't.


The whole essence of masochistic stories (which is what your is, in a way) is not that the PROTAGONIST enjoys the situation, it's that the READER gets off.

In my stories, which are sometimes about bitter, or angry male protagonists who suffer at the hands of cruel or deceitful women, I try to make sure that
1) The "cruel" woman is an understandable character, with plausible motives, and that 2) the male "victim" has elements of being a perpetrator. In other words, the situation is not just one person's fault, there should be an element of co-dependency, or at least mutual cause and effect.

 

[RetroFan]

Yes, well, "Loving wives" your story ain't.


The whole essence of masochistic stories (which is what your is, in a way) is not that the PROTAGONIST enjoys the situation, it's that the READER gets off.

In my stories, which are sometimes about bitter, or angry male protagonists who suffer at the hands of cruel or deceitful women, I try to make sure that
1) The "cruel" woman is an understandable character, with plausible motives, and that 2) the male "victim" has elements of being a perpetrator. In other words, the situation is not just one person's fault, there should be an element of co-dependency, or at least mutual cause and effect.

I actually submitted the story this morning - it is called 'Grumpy Humphrey's Easy Wife' and I ended up putting it in Group Sex rather than Loving Wives as an orgy is the main focus of the sex in the story. Neither 'Grumpy Humphrey' nor his floozy wife Lorraine are sympathetic characters, but Lorraine is a sociopath and have a guess who 'wins' in the end?

And even though the story is set way back in 1960 and Humphrey and Lorraine would be long dead, I think the Loving Wives crew would tear the story to pieces. Group Sex might enjoy it more.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Would this guy be a cuckold or not? Knowing how angry readers of cheating wives stories on this site can get, I wouldn't want to mislabel the story.

The word that fits best would be "wittol":

archaic : a man who knows of his wife's infidelity and puts up with it

But it's obscure enough that many readers won't recognise it. I don't think there is enough agreement on terminology to label this without some risk of confusion, unless you spell it out.

 

[NoJo]

Adding that word to my vocabulary - love it

 

[lovecraft68]

Thanks Simon, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

The LW crew seem to be angrier than usual at the moment, I saw them tearing apart two stories where a husband meekly submits to his wife bringing her boyfriend into the house to live with her, and the bullying boyfriend treats him like a servant; and another where the wife's cheating involved scat fetishism.

Scat is supposedly against he supposed rules someone supposedly enforces, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised its in a story(or a hundred)

The LW crew has been getting angrier for the last few years, surprised they haven't given Themselves aneurysms yet.

There was a story I saw on twitter where some incel punk planned on throwing an explosive device into a group of cheerleaders because...well I guess because they're girls who wanted no part of him, but he ended up blowing his own hand off.

Going to be hard to type all those real man comments on the internet now...but all I could think of was this could be any of the mouth breathers in Loving Wives.

 

[Black_and_White_Writer]

The term cuckold mainly describes married men whose wives cheat on them and their wives' infidelity turns them on, much like a fetish.

There are lots of different cheating stories on this site - cuckolding, both partners cheating, cheating without the other partner's knowledge, couples being in open relationships or swingers and revenge stories where the cheating partner is held accountable for their infidelity.

However, I'm writing a bit of an unusual one at the moment that doesn't seem to come up as often, where a husband knows that his floozy of a wife (an absolute Jezebel) is cheating on him and hates it, but does nothing about it other than stew in his own bitterness and resentment and the wife gets away with her adultery and promiscuous behaviour.

Would this guy be a cuckold or not? Knowing how angry readers of cheating wives stories on this site can get, I wouldn't want to mislabel the story.

Well I don’t know if any definitive description, but I’d not regard him as a cuckold. The question is, does she know he knows? If she does, but doesn’t discuss it or acknowledge it, then yes for me he’s definitely a cuckold.

Usually cuckolding means both parties know and acknowledge it – even encourage it, this is just a cheating wife story. The husband may or may not know, but his wife or lover would make it clear that she’s having sex with another man.

 

[Black_and_White_Writer]

I actually submitted the story this morning - it is called 'Grumpy Humphrey's Easy Wife' and I ended up putting it in Group Sex rather than Loving Wives as an orgy is the main focus of the sex in the story. Neither 'Grumpy Humphrey' nor his floozy wife Lorraine are sympathetic characters, but Lorraine is a sociopath and have a guess who 'wins' in the end?

And even though the story is set way back in 1960 and Humphrey and Lorraine would be long dead, I think the Loving Wives crew would tear the story to pieces. Group Sex might enjoy it more.

Regarding the fans of loving wife’s I will submit a story to that category, or maybe to erotic couplings.

Why? As has been pointed out, the LW crowd are insanely hard to please, so I don’t bother. If I wrote a LW story I’ll post it there and their comments be dammed. I’m going on the most appropriate category to post it in. If they don’t like it, more fool them.

 

[RetroFan]

Well I don’t know if any definitive description, but I’d not regard him as a cuckold. The question is, does she know he knows? If she does, but doesn’t discuss it or acknowledge it, then yes for me he’s definitely a cuckold.

Usually cuckolding means both parties know and acknowledge it – even encourage it, this is just a cheating wife story. The husband may or may not know, but his wife or lover would make it clear that she’s having sex with another man.

The wife in my story shamelessly flirts with other men in front of her husband, and the women in his family hate her because she flirts with their husbands. However she does not disclose her actual infidelity, and hides the fact that she is playing around from her husband. He only finds out proof of this when he discovers his wife has hidden condoms among her feminine hygiene products, contraceptives which they don't need as he is infertile and can't father children, and when letters from angry wives arrive at the house addressed to him.

While the story does fit in Loving Wives, other reasons I had for trying to get it into Group Sex besides the orgy scene is that it is funny - darkly funny - and I put a lot of effort of into making the early 1960s setting authentic. I wasn't sure if the LW crew would appreciate this, and they don't seem to have much of a sense of humour (to put it mildly) so I was hoping other readers would enjoy it more.

 

[Black_and_White_Writer]

The wife in my story shamelessly flirts with other men in front of her husband, and the women in his family hate her because she flirts with their husbands. However she does not disclose her actual infidelity, and hides the fact that she is playing around from her husband. He only finds out proof of this when he discovers his wife has hidden condoms among her feminine hygiene products, contraceptives which they don't need as he is infertile and can't father children, and when letters from angry wives arrive at the house addressed to him.

While the story does fit in Loving Wives, other reasons I had for trying to get it into Group Sex besides the orgy scene is that it is funny - darkly funny - and I put a lot of effort of into making the early 1960s setting authentic. I wasn't sure if the LW crew would appreciate this, and they don't seem to have much of a sense of humour (to put it mildly) so I was hoping other readers would enjoy it more.

Regards the setting, I do like ‘period’ settings, the 70s and 80s are particular favourites of mine. The music, the fashion, the way of the world back then – and no goddamn cellphones! Sorry, I’m very Lee Child like that. I can tell you on one hand how many calls I’ve made on my cellphone this year – four. That’s all. Four. I just use it as an itty bitty laptop. Check my email, check my news, set an alarm, write on it, read on it, listen to music. Watch movies on it. I swear to God I woke up one morning and thought, this isn’t a phone. It’s a fucking Walkman! It’s a goddamn television, it’s a fucking library, it’s anything but a telephone! I love it!

Sorry for the swearing, but I spent so much time on the East Coast in Brooklyn with lovely Italian Americans – and I have Italian blood on my fathers side and Irish on my Mothers side I do get kinda passionate about stuff.

And you know, a final thought, I don’t think – no, scratch that, I ain’t ever read a good story that was gonna scratch my itch that you know had a cellphone central or even peripheral to the plot.

The most important invention in the last twenty years and what impact has it had upon the arts?

Boom! – Zip! Not a bit.

 

[yukonnights]

The wife in my story shamelessly flirts with other men in front of her husband, and the women in his family hate her because she flirts with their husbands. However she does not disclose her actual infidelity, and hides the fact that she is playing around from her husband. He only finds out proof of this when he discovers his wife has hidden condoms among her feminine hygiene products, contraceptives which they don't need as he is infertile and can't father children, and when letters from angry wives arrive at the house addressed to him.

While the story does fit in Loving Wives, other reasons I had for trying to get it into Group Sex besides the orgy scene is that it is funny - darkly funny - and I put a lot of effort of into making the early 1960s setting authentic. I wasn't sure if the LW crew would appreciate this, and they don't seem to have much of a sense of humour (to put it mildly) so I was hoping other readers would enjoy it more.

I'm not sure what the confusion is about the term 'cuckold'. It's a perfectly legitimate word;cuckold | ˈkəkəld, ˈkəkōld | Noun (dated). The husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision. Verb (with object)-(of a man) to make another man a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife.

ORIGIN
late Old English, from Old French cucuault, from cucu ‘cuckoo’ (from the cuckoo's habit of laying its egg in another bird's nest). The equivalent words in French and other languages applied to both the bird and the adulterer; cuckold has never been applied to the bird in English.
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In the 1960's there would not have been the confusion since the "willing cuckold" fetish popular now had not taken hold. This 'willing cuckold' is where the 'wittol' term applies.

Regardless of it's actual meaning or any new meaning, Loving Wives is the last place you would want to publish it.

 

[Blind_Justice]

Who cares if its a cocktail or not? Does it have alcohol in it? A funny umbrella? Drink it, damn it!

 

[RetroFan]

I'm not sure what the confusion is about the term 'cuckold'. It's a perfectly legitimate word;cuckold | ˈkəkəld, ˈkəkōld | Noun (dated). The husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision. Verb (with object)-(of a man) to make another man a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife.

ORIGIN
late Old English, from Old French cucuault, from cucu ‘cuckoo’ (from the cuckoo's habit of laying its egg in another bird's nest). The equivalent words in French and other languages applied to both the bird and the adulterer; cuckold has never been applied to the bird in English.
***

In the 1960's there would not have been the confusion since the "willing cuckold" fetish popular now had not taken hold. This 'willing cuckold' is where the 'wittol' term applies.

Regardless of it's actual meaning or any new meaning, Loving Wives is the last place you would want to publish it.

It got published today in Group Sex and is called 'Grumpy Humphrey's Easy Wife'. Some of the LW crew may find it there given I used tags that are often seen in the Loving Wives stories, but hopefully it won't get butchered the way it would if it went into LW.

I remember seeing one LW story once where the husband and wife were both, and unknown to the other, having an affair with the same young man. It made the readers pretty angry to phrase it mildly.

 

[RetroFan]

Regards the setting, I do like ‘period’ settings, the 70s and 80s are particular favourites of mine. The music, the fashion, the way of the world back then – and no goddamn cellphones! Sorry, I’m very Lee Child like that. I can tell you on one hand how many calls I’ve made on my cellphone this year – four. That’s all. Four. I just use it as an itty bitty laptop. Check my email, check my news, set an alarm, write on it, read on it, listen to music. Watch movies on it. I swear to God I woke up one morning and thought, this isn’t a phone. It’s a fucking Walkman! It’s a goddamn television, it’s a fucking library, it’s anything but a telephone! I love it!

Sorry for the swearing, but I spent so much time on the East Coast in Brooklyn with lovely Italian Americans – and I have Italian blood on my fathers side and Irish on my Mothers side I do get kinda passionate about stuff.

And you know, a final thought, I don’t think – no, scratch that, I ain’t ever read a good story that was gonna scratch my itch that you know had a cellphone central or even peripheral to the plot.

The most important invention in the last twenty years and what impact has it had upon the arts?

Boom! – Zip! Not a bit.

The lack of cellphones and social media is one of many reasons I like to write stories set in the past. I also like to write about cultural things such as fashion, music and movies of the time. I can write about things that are no longer politically correct and also to foreshadow coming events. For example in one of my stories set in 1963 two female friends are talking about November being a boring month, and one of them says that if somebody was to ask them in 10 years time what they did in November 1963 then they probably would not remember.

In my stories set in the present day, I tend to mock modern day things like social media, vegans, political correctness and the like. In my story 'The Unsuitable Girlfriends' one of the reasons that the three girlfriends are unsuitable is that they are obsessed with their cell phones and use them all the time, even when they are sitting on the toilet.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Who cares if its a cocktail or not? Does it have alcohol in it? A funny umbrella? Drink it, damn it!

I can never pass up a well-accessorized drink.

 

[sbrooks103]

The term cuckold mainly describes married men whose wives cheat on them and their wives' infidelity turns them on, much like a fetish.

There are lots of different cheating stories on this site - cuckolding, both partners cheating, cheating without the other partner's knowledge, couples being in open relationships or swingers and revenge stories where the cheating partner is held accountable for their infidelity.

However, I'm writing a bit of an unusual one at the moment that doesn't seem to come up as often, where a husband knows that his floozy of a wife (an absolute Jezebel) is cheating on him and hates it, but does nothing about it other than stew in his own bitterness and resentment and the wife gets away with her adultery and promiscuous behaviour.

Would this guy be a cuckold or not? Knowing how angry readers of cheating wives stories on this site can get, I wouldn't want to mislabel the story.

First. without getting into the specifics of the story, any man whose wife has sex with another man, is by the dictionary definition a cuckold, even if he ends up Burning The Bitch. That's why many of us use the the term "cuck" to refer to a man who in some way, shape or form accepts it.

As for this story, you don't say WHY he doesn't do anything about it. Is he forced in some way? Is he just too much of a wimp? I would definitely call him a cuck, or cuckold, if you prefer.

 

[RetroFan]

First. without getting into the specifics of the story, any man whose wife has sex with another man, is by the dictionary definition a cuckold, even if he ends up Burning The Bitch. That's why many of us use the the term "cuck" to refer to a man who in some way, shape or form accepts it.

As for this story, you don't say WHY he doesn't do anything about it. Is he forced in some way? Is he just too much of a wimp? I would definitely call him a cuck, or cuckold, if you prefer.

The husband in this story is a man who didn't have any luck with women in his earlier years, and while his brothers and sisters found the one, got married and had kids but he was left on the shelf. He does not meet his wife until he is 37 (she is 21 at the time) and that is very old for a first time marriage back when the story takes place. He always felt like a failure when he was single, and reasons that if his wife was gone he would feel like even more of a failure so does nothing about her adultery. Plus she looks nice, and that boosts his fragile ego.

 

[Black_and_White_Writer]

The husband in this story is a man who didn't have any luck with women in his earlier years, and while his brothers and sisters found the one, got married and had kids but he was left on the shelf. He does not meet his wife until he is 37 (she is 21 at the time) and that is very old for a first time marriage back when the story takes place. He always felt like a failure when he was single, and reasons that if his wife was gone he would feel like even more of a failure so does nothing about her adultery. Plus she looks nice, and that boosts his fragile ego.

A good combination for the story.

 

[NoJo]

I can never pass up a well-accessorized drink.

Make sure you always carry some band-aids for your cheek

 

[Black_and_White_Writer]

Make sure you always carry some band-aids for your cheek

Haha, I’ve been there a few times. Once in a lovely bar in Massachusetts. Mmm, that was a lovely night.