Cry Baby UAW Appeals Volkswagen Workers Rejection!

[akatrex]

The United Auto Workers on Friday challenged last week's close vote by workers at a Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., that rejected the UAW's bid to represent them.

In an appeal filed with the National Labor Relations Board, the union asserted that "interference had swayed the election.


What.........Union tactics used against the UAW?

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[sigh]

The United Auto Workers on Friday challenged last week's close vote by workers at a Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., that rejected the UAW's bid to represent them.

In an appeal filed with the National Labor Relations Board, the union asserted that "interference had swayed the election.


What.........Union tactics used against the UAW?

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Here's an interesting counterpoint to that:


Volkswagen employees may have made a huge mistake when they rejected union membership on Friday.

Employees at VW's Chattanooga plant voted against representation by United Auto Workers, leaving the factory as the only Volkswagen plant worldwide without a formal mechanism for workers' representation.

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

"I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the South again," said works council leader Bernd Osterloh.

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of building another plant in the right-to-work South, Osterloh added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/vw-union-workers_n_4820585.html?ir=Politics

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Laugh about it, shout about it, when you got to choose...you buy the cheapest.

The top benefit of using union labor is trained, available employees where needed.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What union tactics were used?

 

[jeninflorida]

only the mentally damaged want to be in a union




yes, it IS that simple

 

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[koalabear]

Here's an interesting counterpoint to that:


Volkswagen employees may have made a huge mistake when they rejected union membership on Friday.

Employees at VW's Chattanooga plant voted against representation by United Auto Workers, leaving the factory as the only Volkswagen plant worldwide without a formal mechanism for workers' representation.

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

"I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the South again," said works council leader Bernd Osterloh.

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of building another plant in the right-to-work South, Osterloh added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/vw-union-workers_n_4820585.html?ir=Politics

No wonder all the Honda and Toyota non-union plants are failing. Oh wait, they aren't.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I say BS, in today's world the state is the arbiter of employees rights. State and federal law protects workers rights. The idea that only union employees have their rights protected would mean the 93% of the work force in the private labor force in United States doesn't, which is false.

It is true that Volkswagen plant will not have a mechanism who's sole purpose is coercion and the protection of marginal employees, nor will it be hamstrung into bargaining with the "collective" instead of it's more productive employees. It will be breathing life into the merit system, instead of tearing it down.

And wages will continue to stagnate because of the lack of collective bargaining. Welfare will increase in this country, dependenacy will rise and we'll have nobody to blame but ourselves.

They were even invited in by the company, the elections were held by the NLRB, they got their asses handed to them. This is a major defeat for big labor. Now it's time to run to Holder and Obama to cry about whatever it takes to get them to intervene. I think if the they hold another vote, the union will lose by even greater margins.

There is no good reason for them to get a do over. The UAW was defeated and so be it. That's the way democracy is supposed to work and whatever pain comes from it.

 

[koalabear]

And wages will continue to stagnate because of the lack of collective bargaining. Welfare will increase in this country, dependenacy will rise and we'll have nobody to blame but ourselves.



There is no good reason for them to get a do over. The UAW was defeated and so be it. That's the way democracy is supposed to work and whatever pain comes from it.

You never read your posts do you?

 

[jeninflorida]

I say BS, in today's world the state is the arbiter of employees rights. State and federal law protects workers rights. The idea that only union employees have their rights protected would mean the 93% of the work force in the private labor force in United States doesn't, which is false.

It is true that Volkswagen plant will not have a mechanism who's sole purpose is coercion and the protection of marginal employees, nor will it be hamstrung into bargaining with the "collective" instead of it's more productive employees. It will be breathing life into the merit system, instead of tearing it down.

Lazy people need extra protection!

 

[sigh]

No wonder all the Honda and Toyota non-union plants are failing. Oh wait, they aren't.

It has to do with VW's business model. I'm not sure why you brought up Honda and Toyota, and not sure why vette went off on the state being arbiters of workers' rights. It has nothing to do with either. It's just VW's business model and that's how they choose to run their company. And they're pretty successful too.

The fact is, at VW, workers are represented on the board and they could possibly derail any expansion in the US that doesn't include what they refer to as "co-determination". Here's another snippet from the article I already linked:

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of building another plant in the right-to-work South, Osterloh added.

Osterloh's characterization of the union vote as jeopardizing potential growth at the Tennessee plant, and across the South, contrasts with what Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) was saying before the balloting. Corker suggested a vote in favor of unionization would hinder VW's growth.

"I've had conversations today and based on those am assured that should the workers vote against the UAW, Volkswagen will announce in the coming weeks that it will manufacture its new mid-size SUV here in Chattanooga," Corker said last week.

Clearly, we'll have to wait to see what comes of this. I'm not making any predictions. I happened to read the article just prior to the thread popping up and thought it was interesting.

 

[koalabear]

It has to do with VW's business model. I'm not sure why you brought up Honda and Toyota, and not sure why vette went off on the state being arbiters of workers' rights. It has nothing to do with either. It's just VW's business model and that's how they choose to run their company. And they're pretty successful too.

The fact is, at VW, workers are represented on the board and they could possibly derail any expansion in the US that doesn't include what they refer to as "co-determination". Here's another snippet from the article I already linked:

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of building another plant in the right-to-work South, Osterloh added.

Osterloh's characterization of the union vote as jeopardizing potential growth at the Tennessee plant, and across the South, contrasts with what Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) was saying before the balloting. Corker suggested a vote in favor of unionization would hinder VW's growth.

"I've had conversations today and based on those am assured that should the workers vote against the UAW, Volkswagen will announce in the coming weeks that it will manufacture its new mid-size SUV here in Chattanooga," Corker said last week.

Clearly, we'll have to wait to see what comes of this. I'm not making any predictions. I happened to read the article just prior to the thread popping up and thought it was interesting.

So the VW's built at that plant since May 2011 are sub-standard!!! VW should be ashamed to sell those shabby non-union vehicles.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Someone told me a reason it was voted down is because people thought they were gonna lose too much money in union dues. Im a member of the uaw. My dues are roughly 20 bucks a month. Not s big deal

 

[jeninflorida]

Someone told me a reason it was voted down is because people thought they were gonna lose too much money in union dues. Im a member of the uaw. My dues are roughly 20 bucks a month. Not s big deal

sounds kind of sad that you need a union

 

[Beco]

only the mentally damaged want to be in a union

yes, it IS that simple

Thats right....you pay and you pay and you pay. Then when you need them, nothing happens....but they tell you basically, who to vote for in every election

 

[Dazzle1]

Here's an interesting counterpoint to that:


Volkswagen employees may have made a huge mistake when they rejected union membership on Friday.

Employees at VW's Chattanooga plant voted against representation by United Auto Workers, leaving the factory as the only Volkswagen plant worldwide without a formal mechanism for workers' representation.

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

"I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the South again," said works council leader Bernd Osterloh.

"If co-determination isn't guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor" of building another plant in the right-to-work South, Osterloh added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/vw-union-workers_n_4820585.html?ir=Politics

The worker mandate was also attempted by Nissan when they opened their first plant. The probblem is they could not used an alternative to the union thugs of the UAW.

The workers choice should be respected. They are wise enough to see through the UAW.

The UAW has no standing as they are an outside party themselves.

Corker deserves a profile in courage award for his fight against this extortion racket

 

[remy_lebeau8]

sounds kind of sad that you need a union

I really dont need a union in regards what you imply. congrats on trying to portray me as a lazyunion thug though. Try looking up all the positives the unions do instead of the negitives on fox news.


Note...

I know you shouldnt feed the jen but i couldnt help myself. My apoligies

 

[jeninflorida]

I really dont need a union in regards what you imply. congrats on trying to portray me as a lazyunion thug though. Try looking up all the positives the unions do instead of the negitives on fox news.


Note...

I know you shouldnt feed the jen but i couldnt help myself. My apoligies

there is NO VALUE in a union. period.

 

[jeninflorida]

Thats right....you pay and you pay and you pay. Then when you need them, nothing happens....but they tell you basically, who to vote for in every election

yeah, that's the obama kind....they take and take and never put in their fair share

guess that makes Obama the first welfare White Trailer Trash POTUS

 

[Liar]

Thats right....you pay and you pay and you pay. Then when you need them, nothing happens....but they tell you basically, who to vote for in every election

Sounds like you need a less shit union.

Mine got me raised overtime compensation, stopped job description feature creep and provided me a lawyer when I had to sue the employer.

 

[jeninflorida]

Sounds like you need a less shit union.

Mine got me raised overtime compensation, stopped job description feature creep and provided me a lawyer when I had to sue the employer.

...of course it did.

but didn't you say that you were self employed, so does that mean you sued yourself or your mom?

 

[Liar]

...of course it did.

but didn't you say that you were self employed, so does that mean you sued yourself or your mom?

I am self employed these days.

Why do you assume that means I always was?

Oh yes, I forgot. You're a moron.

 

[jeninflorida]

I am self employed these days.

Why do you assume that means I always was?

Oh yes, I forgot. You're a moron.

just trying to point out your stupidity, as I'm here to help you. after all, you think socialism is a good thing.

talk about being a moron

 

[Liar]

just trying to point out your stupidity, as I'm here to help you. after all, you think socialism is a good thing.

talk about being a moron

Wouldn't it be better to point out my alledged stupidity by not showing you are incapable of thinking?

Just a friendly suggestion.