Crazy child-abductor Jimmy Lee Dykes was a good anti-statist

[KingOrfeo]

Just getting into the spirit of the thing.

Jimmy Lee Dykes recently murdered a school bus driver, kidnapped a five-year-old child, and held him hostage for a week in his fortified underground bunker in Midland, Alabama. The matter ended with a shootout with the police, leaving Dykes dead and the boy alive. Dykes had homemade bombs in the bunker. Apparently, he did the whole thing just to get on TV and make a statement. We can only speculate what its content might have been, but, it is known that Dykes was an anti-government paranoid.

Dykes, described as a loner who railed against the government, lives up a dirt road outside this tiny hamlet north of Dothan in the southeastern corner of the state. His home is just off the main road north to the state capital of Montgomery, about 80 miles away.

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Government records and interviews with neighbors indicate that Dykes joined the Navy in Midland City, serving on active duty from 1964 to 1969. His record shows several awards, including the Vietnam Service Medal and the Good Conduct Medal. During his service, Dykes was trained in aviation maintenance.

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He had some scrapes with the law in Florida, including a 1995 arrest for improper exhibition of a weapon. The misdemeanor was dismissed. He also was arrested for marijuana possession in 2000.

He returned to Alabama about two years ago, moving onto the rural tract about 100 yards from his nearest neighbors, Michael Creel and his father, Greg.

Neighbors described Dykes as a man who once beat a dog to death with a lead pipe, threatened to shoot children for setting foot on his property, and patrolled his yard at night with a flashlight and a firearm. Michael Creel said Dykes had an adult daughter, but the two lost touch years ago.

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Greg Creel was a friend of Dykes', but he said he would not comment for The Associated Press. "I will only talk to the police and the FBI," he said.

Michael Creel said Dykes kept to himself and listened to a lot of conservative talk radio.

"He was very into what's going on with the nation and the politics and all the laws being made. The things he didn't agree with, he would ventilate," he said.

James Arrington, police chief of the neighboring town of Pinckard, put it differently.

"He's against the government, starting with Obama on down," he said.

Paranoia is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Act as if They are out to get you, and sooner or later They will be.

 

[eyer]

Just getting into the spirit of the thing.

Nah. You're too modest...

...it's much, much more like:

Just getting down in the partisan political gutter with you all...

 

[1sickbastard]

So what, are you trying to say that all those who dislike or distrust the gov't are child abductors?

Is there some actual point here, or is this just more fear, fear, fear, hate, hate, hate, isn't-the-other-side-(insert epithets here)-and-my-side-(therefore, myself)so-fucking-superior post?

 

[LadyVer]

The bottom line is that there are a lot of nuts who think they can do anything they want because they think they're special. It's like the guy who murdered the teenager who drove into the guy's driveway by mistake, thinking he was at a friend's house. Too many people have guns that shouldn't.

 

[eyer]

The bottom line is that there are a lot of nuts who think they can do anything they want because they think they're special. It's like the guy who murdered the teenager who drove into the guy's driveway by mistake, thinking he was at a friend's house. Too many people have guns that shouldn't.

Could you please apply those amateur "they think they're special" and "Too many people have guns that shouldn't" insights to the CA cops who shot innocent people in the past few days in their frenzy to catch a cop killer?

Geezus...

...you and pornstarwannbe can suck yourselves to silliness on my iggy list.

Yw...

 

[LadyVer]

Could you please apply those amateur "they think they're special" and "Too many people have guns that shouldn't" insights to the CA cops who shot innocent people in the past few days in their frenzy to catch a cop killer?

Geezus...

...you and pornstarwannbe can suck yourselves to silliness on my iggy list.

Yw...

Ig me, jack ass.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Nah. You're too modest...

...it's much, much more like:

Just getting down in the partisan political gutter with you all...

What "getting down," all us politically-minded GBers live there, neighbor.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So what, are you trying to say that all those who dislike or distrust the gov't are child abductors?

Is there some actual point here, or is this just more fear, fear, fear, hate, hate, hate, isn't-the-other-side-(insert epithets here)-and-my-side-(therefore, myself)so-fucking-superior post?

The main point is to illustrate (again) the absurdity of renard's thread re Dorner the "liberal extremist."

But, yes, I believe anti-government paranoids like are far more dangerous and more likely to commit horrible crimes than are "liberal extremists," generally speaking. There's more than a few screaming state-haters on this forum whom I would not be too much surprised to find in the headlines.

 

[sethp]

The main point is to illustrate (again) the absurdity of renard's thread re Dorner the "liberal extremist."

But, yes, I believe anti-government paranoids like are far more dangerous and more likely to commit horrible crimes than are "liberal extremists," generally speaking. There's more than a few screaming state-haters on this forum whom I would not be too much surprised to find in the headlines.

Agreed. People who are this unbalanced are literally pushed over the cliff be instigators like Hannity and Limbaugh.

 

[Busybody]

The main point is to illustrate (again) the absurdity of renard's thread re Dorner the "liberal extremist."

.

whats absurd is a guy flying a plane into a building TEA PARTY BLAMED

a Congresswomen shot, Palin blamed

etc etc

so DTFU about ABSURD, QUEER ORAFARCE

 

[KingOrfeo]

But, yes, I believe anti-government paranoids like are far more dangerous and more likely to commit horrible crimes than are "liberal extremists," generally speaking. There's more than a few screaming state-haters on this forum whom I would not be too much surprised to find in the headlines.

Agreed. People who are this unbalanced are literally pushed over the cliff be instigators like Hannity and Limbaugh.

Busybody, for instance, is a ticking bomb.

 

[1sickbastard]

The main point is to illustrate (again) the absurdity of renard's thread re Dorner the "liberal extremist."

But, yes, I believe anti-government paranoids like are far more dangerous and more likely to commit horrible crimes than are "liberal extremists," generally speaking. There's more than a few screaming state-haters on this forum whom I would not be too much surprised to find in the headlines.

I see.

So your entire point is: Some right wing retard made some stupid arguments using fallacious logic, so you have to show him that the left wing can be just as retarded, make arguments as equally stupid using the same fallacious logic?

Now remind me again why rational political discussion is so difficult?

You do realize that all you are doing (and this goes for those of you on the right who do the same things) is making sure your side looks just as silly as the other side, don't you?

Busybody, for instance, is a ticking bomb.

I wouldn't worry much. It's mostly manure, which, while it can be explosive, is mostly just a loosely filled sack of very wet shit.

Just sayin'

 

[KingOrfeo]

I see.

So your entire point is: Some right wing retard made some stupid arguments using fallacious logic, so you have to show him that the left wing can be just as retarded, make arguments as equally stupid using the same fallacious logic?

You are missing the point, which is that, should we choose to do so, the LW would have at least as much ripped-from-the-headlines material to work with, and rather more. Even renard should be capable of getting htat.

 

[1sickbastard]

You are missing the point, which is that, should we choose to do so, the LW would have at least as much ripped-from-the-headlines material to work with, and rather more. Even renard should be capable of getting htat.

No, I got the point you were intending to make.
I was just pointing out that you were unintentionally making another one, because you DID choose to do so.

Lowering yourself to the level of your opposition says nothing positive about the strength of your character and allows them to diminish whatever principles you are trying to defend.

Be better than that.