"let's be honest... about something... when I came out against the militia groups' leaders, I endorsed the militias, and the people that were joining militias. They had legitimate grievances, most of them were sound, decent citizens, yes, they were gun owners, but they weren't crackpots... Most of them were good people. The difference was... they didn't know the difference between a crackpot crook that was leading them... that was telling them, you know, that Russia was going to invade, that there were going to be Chinese troops popping out of canisters in Long Beach..."