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minsue said:
McCain didn't carry Arizona, his home state, during the primaries. Between him and Bush, who would you really rather have as the figurehead of our country and your political party?

I would love McCain. I respect him greatly. I however oly know one person from Arizona and she's a very sexy, if somewhat feathery democrat ;) I knew several people who I really respected for their intelligence who painted an unflattering enough picture of Gore that I was convinced he wouldn't carry his own state. The point is that no one had anything good to say about him, even the few democrats I knew.

-Colly
 
cloudy said:
Exactly the way I voted, but flipped - "not-Gore."
Even though we don't have the same opinion, I respect you for thinking about it.
 
minsue said:
McCain didn't carry Arizona, his home state, during the primaries. Between him and Bush, who would you really rather have as the figurehead of our country and your political party?
I'd probably have voted for McCain if he'd been the nominee.

Incidentally, I don't think the president is a "figurehead."
 
Colleen Thomas said:
I would love McCain. I respect him greatly. I however oly know one person from Arizona and she's a very sexy, if somewhat feathery democrat ;) I knew several people who I really respected for their intelligence who painted an unflattering enough picture of Gore that I was convinced he wouldn't carry his own state. The point is that no one had anything good to say about him, even the few democrats I knew.

-Colly

I've a great deal of respect for McCain myself, though I've never voted for him. ;) I believed in Gore. I was angry and felt betrayed when he tried to play up to the masses to when the election. IMO, it likely cost him far more than it gained for him. The main problem with Gore, and one of the reasons I voted for him;), is he's like the smart kid nobody liked in high school. He lacks charisma. It still amazes me that he won the popular vote.
 
minsue said:
I've a great deal of respect for McCain myself, though I've never voted for him. ;) I believed in Gore. I was angry and felt betrayed when he tried to play up to the masses to when the election. IMO, it likely cost him far more than it gained for him. The main problem with Gore, and one of the reasons I voted for him;), is he's like the smart kid nobody liked in high school. He lacks charisma. It still amazes me that he won the popular vote.

He certainly lacks charisma. But, Bush has the common touch & he ain't exactly as good as advertised. He can't hold a candle to his father and unfotuneatly for me I didn't realize just how short of his old man he was when i voted.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
He certainly lacks charisma. But, Bush has the common touch & he ain't exactly as good as advertised. He can't hold a candle to his father and unfotuneatly for me I didn't realize just how short of his old man he was when i voted.

-Colly

That he is, though I personally won't be singing his father's praises any time soon, either. :rolleyes:
 
minsue said:
That he is, though I personally won't be singing his father's praises any time soon, either. :rolleyes:

I always felt GW sr. was a good man, trying to do a good job. I know he mde compromises with his stated principles, but he did a lot of good and of recent presidents I think his coalition to oust Saddam from Kuwait is probably the first time since korea that we have worked so well with the world community.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
I always felt GW sr. was a good man, trying to do a good job. I know he mde compromises with his stated principles, but he did a lot of good and of recent presidents I think his coalition to oust Saddam from Kuwait is probably the first time since korea that we have worked so well with the world community.

-Colly

You'll get no argument from me on any of those counts. I do believe that his intentions were good. His actions were not though, imo, on too many occasions. He was a damned sight better than his son, though. :rolleyes:
 
minsue said:
Four years ago, I'd have agreed with you.
I agree that Bush is the catspaw of big business and the religious right, but he's not a figurehead. The Bush administration is exactly what he wants it to be.
 
I liked George Sr. in 1980, when he correctly pointed out that Reagan's economic policies were "voodoo economics". But then he sold his soul to the social conservatives and big deficits (though never to the extent of Reagan and nowhere near his idiot son). The last straw for me was when he promised aid to the insurgents in Iraq at the end of the Gulf war and then abandoned them to Saddam, following this up with the sanctions. I'll never forgive his total moral lapse for all that. I'll never forgive Clinton for the sanctions either.

I do wonder, though, if it had been Bush Sr. instead of Reagan in 1980, what sort of place the world would be today...
 
It's likely George Sr. actually completed a university education at Yale.
 
What is it that we liked about George Senior? His short memory on Iran-Contra? I forget.
 
Well, my mother liked him OK, but she doesn't like Dubya, because--get this!--he's further to the right, especially religiously, than she is. When I heard that, I thought, Hmm, maybe the End Times are coming after all.
 
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