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Legal OK sought to target illegal migrants
Sen. Patrick, Rep. Corte ask Abbott's opinion on plan to punish cities, businesses
By PEGGY FIKAC and SUSAN CARROLL Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau
Aug. 20, 2008, 11:20PM

AUSTIN — Some Texas lawmakers could launch a new effort to crack down on illegal immigrants by punishing businesses that employ them or cities that give them sanctuary, if the ideas get the legal go-ahead from Attorney General Greg Abbott.

Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, and Rep. Frank Corte, R-San Antonio, asked Abbott this week for his legal opinion with an eye to the legislative session that begins in January.

The legislation would spark a fiery debate in a state where illegal immigrants have a significant impact on the economy and have roots going back many generations. The state has roughly 1.6 million illegal immigrants and a foreign-born population of nearly 4 million.

If Texas approved anti-illegal immigration laws, it would join a growing list of states that have enacted such proposals in recent years.

"I would move forward on legislation to end sanctuary-city policies, if Abbott says such a move would be legal," Patrick said.

He said he would focus on employers who pay unauthorized workers with cash and don't pay taxes, creating an unfair environment for other businesses.

Unlike Patrick, Corte said he hadn't made a decision yet about pursuing legislation, but he said the immigration issue is front-and-center for his constituents.

Immigrant advocates are voicing concerns over such measures, saying they would tear apart communities and families and hurt the state's economy. Meanwhile, at least one Democrat is embracing the debate.

"The only thing I can say is, Pete Wilson is the best thing that happened to the California Democratic Party. Go for it, baby," said Sen. Leticia Van de Putte of San Antonio, Senate Democratic Caucus chairwoman, citing the former California GOP governor who sought to deny most state services to unauthorized immigrants.

"The more mean-spirited they get, the more mainstream Texans realize that those types of policies aren't in the best interest of our state, and they certainly aren't in the best interest of our families," she said.

The question posed by Corte and Patrick on businesses was about the constitutionality of suspending or revoking business licenses of those who employ unauthorized workers. They referred to a recent Arizona law, which has been challenged in federal court, that enacted such penalties for employers.

Citing an Oklahoma law barring sanctuary cities, they asked whether Texas lawmakers have authority to deter local governments from policies "which would hinder state enforcement of the federal immigration laws."

Patrick didn't offer specifics of repercussions cities might face, but he acknowledged that one option would be a loss of funding to cities. A measure last year would have affected federal security funding for cities that don't fully enforce immigration laws.

Bill Hammond, president of the Texas Association of Business, said his group opposes the idea of the state revoking businesses' licenses for immigration offenses "primarily because we believe this is a federal issue that needs a federal solution."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5956722.html
 
You aren't going to see it anytime soon. Illegal immigration is used to collect campaign contribution from working people, who think illegal immigrants cost them jobs and from businessmen who employ them.

The politicians are happy to take money from both, but only listen to the businessmen.
 
good idea, except the price of produce will go through the roof
 
Arizona has such a law. If a complaint is filed by a citizen against a company, the county attorney's office is required to investigate and verify that the employees are legal residents.

For a first offense, the business loses its business license for 10 days.
A second offense means permanent suspension of the license.
The illegals are leaving.
 
I, for one, believe that it is an excellent idea that is long overdue.

LONG overdue.

I say shut 'em down, fine them to hell and back.
 
Arizona has such a law. If a complaint is filed by a citizen against a company, the county attorney's office is required to investigate and verify that the employees are legal residents.

For a first offense, the business loses its business license for 10 days.
A second offense means permanent suspension of the license.
The illegals are leaving.

I've advocated a similar "three strikes" rule against employers (this includes private individuals) hiring illegal labor for years. First offense is a hefty fine, second offense doubles the fine since the first obviously wasn't large enough to make them reconsider, third offense revokes their business license.

It's the easiest way to curb illegal immigration there is.

A fence certainly isn't going to stop anyone from immigrating illegally and this way you don't really have to worry about rounding up the undocumented workers. They'll go back home of their own accord when the work dries up.
 
Actually some forms of punishment is being applied to businesses already.

The effect is that in a very few years if things keep going like they are about half of the illegals from south of the border will have gone home.

HUH.

Fuckers stumbled into something that really works.
 
Arizona has such a law. If a complaint is filed by a citizen against a company, the county attorney's office is required to investigate and verify that the employees are legal residents.

For a first offense, the business loses its business license for 10 days.
A second offense means permanent suspension of the license.
The illegals are leaving.


AZ Bill 2779.

The I9 compliancy has caused quite an exidus...

I am always amazed when I go to some fast food place and there's someone with a comprehension of the English language.

A few years ago they started targeting homeowners that employed illegals to do their lawnwork or paint their houses. It's really not worth the fines you risk to employ cheep labor.

There is nothing wrong with immigration, but do it legally and pay your damned taxes. Stop having 10 kids and milking the welfare system.
 
The price of gasoline was well over $3.00 when Congress had a Republican majority. Try again.
And the economy was doing better, too. The mortgage crisis, caused in part by liberals forcing banks to make loans they know wouldn't be paid back (in the name of fairness), had more to do with the current state of the economy. Construction is a huge component, and when oil prices rose it just made it worse. Construction prices rose for years because China was buying up so much material (supply/demand), and oil prices (driven by exchange rates and the whims of foreign dictators who sell the stuff) also drove up construction prices.

Your point is that more of the same economy will be better?
Only that a bad economy (especially in construction) helps get rid of illegal aliens. Isn't that what this thread is about?
 
Businesses are already required to verify eligibility for employment. If the government can't provide documents that can't be forged, why should a business be punished?
 
And the economy was doing better, too. The mortgage crisis, caused in part by liberals forcing banks to make loans they know wouldn't be paid back (in the name of fairness), had more to do with the current state of the economy. Construction is a huge component, and when oil prices rose it just made it worse. Construction prices rose for years because China was buying up so much material (supply/demand), and oil prices (driven by exchange rates and the whims of foreign dictators who sell the stuff) also drove up construction prices.

Only that a bad economy (especially in construction) helps get rid of illegal aliens. Isn't that what this thread is about?
That is such huge bullshit.

The mortgage crisis was caused by factors that happened LONG before the Republicans lost Congress. Liberals weren't the ones who forced the banks to be stupid.
 
It ain't bad, unemployment at around 5.7%, compared to the EU at around 7.0%.

Unemployment is only one factor, and those numbers are partly skewed by saying all part time jobs (which are being created much more than full time jobs) = full employment.
 
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