Coulter Kicks Ass on Chris Mathews & MSNBC!

[amicus]

I have long detested the interview style of Chris Mathews on Msnbc, he is rude, overbearing, filled with self importance and bullies his guests.

Not so with "Godless" Ann Coulter, she wiped the floor with him on every point he ventured to make.

Since most folks here are too frightened to even watch Fox News, where Miss Coulter often appears, I imagine a few might have seen this interview and it is being rebroadcast as I type.

One possible newsworthy event the may percolate upwards in the next few days; the wife of Presidential candidate John Edwards was set up with a telephone question on the program and criticized Miss Coulter for her 'personal attacks' on her husband.

Miss Coulter asked and I wonder why, Edwards himself did not call and make the accusations.

I seldom cheer and applaud for a television show, especially on MSNBC, but, "You go Girl!!!!" just kinda got shouted out in my humble abode several times.

Good on you Ann Coulter!

amicus...( a secret admirer)

 

[flavortang]

I can't stand that Ann Coulter. People watch her and buy her books for the same reason that they slow down to watch the aftermath of a car wreck. More sensationalist nonsense. If I started saying insane things that insulted a lot of people I could sell a lot of books, too. Anyone could. Most people have a conscience, though.

I like some conservative commentators like Glenn Beck but I wouldn't waste a second on watching that hag.

 

[amicus]

Go ahead, insult someone, sell some books...I question the veracity in that statement.

However, I find Ms. Coulter quite attractive, very well educated, knowledgeable and well spoken and enough Moxie to totally discombobulate Mathews and doing it on air and extemporaneously.

a for Ann...


amicus

 

[flavortang]

Her points could very well be correct and eloquently stated, but I can't stand her as a TV personality. Not knocking her as an author, I just can't bare to listen to her voice for more than five seconds. It's grating. She's grating. I even agree, on certain topics with (and I can't believe I'm saying this) O'Reilly, but I don't watch his show because I can't stand the guy. He's like America's rusty, grumpy uncle. It doesn't surprise me that the core audiences for shows like O'Reilly's are 60+. Not saying the guy doesn't produce work that people watch, obviously he does, but the generation that tunes in to the stuff people like him regurgitate is on the way out.

I think more people would be inclined to watch them if they didn't have to get their points across with a bizarre sideshow mix of aggressiveness, obnoxiousness and vitriol. It's not difficult. I have some far-right views on immigration, abortion and homeland security but I don't have to put on a suit, tie and a permanent smirk and belittle people on TV.

You like The Coulter, and that's all well and good. That's what's great about this country. Freedom to disagree.

 

[S-Des]

She absolutely destroyed John Edwards (which makes me really want to like her ). However, she is doing the same ducking and weaving crap about her comments. Chris busted her for personal attacks against women, citing their bodies to make fun of them and Ann pretended to not be able to understand "the context". It was bullshit and everyone knows it. A little honesty would be nice, since she wants to be treated like a legitimate commentator, not an entertainer (actually, she tries to play both sides of the fence when it suits her purposes).

I did love her comment about GWB though. ZING!!!


BTW, Glen Beck had one of my favorite lines ever by a talk show host last night. "This is not mainstream media. I'm a Yahoo . . . a freking rodeo clown. Get a life." Absolutely brilliant.

 

[flavortang]

She absolutely destroyed John Edwards (which makes me really want to like her ). However, she is doing the same ducking and weaving crap about her comments. Chris busted her for personal attacks against women, citing their bodies to make fun of them and Ann pretended to not be able to understand "the context". It was bullshit and everyone knows it. A little honesty would be nice, since she wants to be treated like a legitimate commentator, not an entertainer (actually, she tries to play both sides of the fence when it suits her purposes).

I did love her comment about GWB though. ZING!!!


BTW, Glen Beck had one of my favorite lines ever by a talk show host last night. "This is not mainstream media. I'm a Yahoo . . . a freking rodeo clown. Get a life." Absolutely brilliant.

Personally, I think all politicians are full of shit so if she won points on crushing Edwards, that's fine by me. You are right, though, S-Des, ducking responding about comments she's made in the past that would make her look unfavorable is what I'm talking about. People that can't afford to be wrong so they create fantasy worlds where they don't need to be held accountable for the things they say. If you said something that blatantly insults someone, just hone up to it, don't try to demean the party involved so that your insults seem less horrible.

 

[amicus]

S-Des...glad someone else saw the program at least.

Ahm, I found her depiction of the Clinton/Lewinski thing, ahem, Hillarious, (no apology for the pun) comparing the lapse in memory of Scooter Libby over when he first learned of Valeria what's her name, and Clinton's lapse of memory of the, "Chubby little Jewish girl giving him oral sex under the Oval office desk.

And, Hillary's running from Coulters comments on, 'her chubby little legs', not all that polite and civil I suppose, but funny as hell. Coulter is that rare combination of things in a person, humor, intelligence, acuity, depth, knowledge and education and one hell of a load of personal hubris.

I can tolerate her somewhat irritating vocal cords and enjoy her inimitable style and flair.

amicus....

 

[S-Des]

Plus that last line was great. "Bush is a uniter, not a divider . . . we're all waiting for him to leave!"

I did think the comment about Clinton and the accused rape was very well placed. Not that I have any idea if there was truth behind it (especially considering the circumstances), but considering the opinion of some *cough* that all men accused of rape are probably guilty, they just manage to get away with it sometimes . . . Funny that I've never seen a Liberal say that about Bubba.

 

[JamesSD]

I still feel sorry for her.

She's clearly an anorexic. Women who grow up in conservative, upper middle class households have it rough. I'm sure daddy didn't value her for anything but her appearance, which is difficult on someone who is bright, (which she is - bright, moderately above average intelligence, enough to see her own limitations).

I guess she's doing well enough for herself as an intellectual prostitute. Make up shit to stir the pot, sell books to fools, profit. Helps that she fits the cartoonish view of womanhood most of the right has; physically frail, tall, blonde. Still, as an example she just makes me sad.

 

[amicus]

I think Ms. Coulter does not need your sympathy JamesSD, nor do I think she is anorexic, functioning in a family role you created for her.

She earned a degree and a law degree from Michigan, is a lawyer, a best selling author and lecturer with a very quick mind and whether her parents are wealthy or not, she has earned leisure for the rest of her life with her mind, her words and her appearance.

A little jealousy can go a long ways.

amicus...

 

[amicus]

I want to add to this a little by paraphrasing Ann Coulter's comments concerning the war against Islamic terrorism in the middle east.

Ms. Coulter holds no political office, nor is she beholden to a television network that might attempt to influence her opinions. Thus she has an advantage in being able to express herself without constraint; something very few can afford or have the courage to do.

She made the distinction that 'this is war' and war is not pretty, it kills people, soldiers and combatants and innocents in great numbers and with little mercy, war in not 'hygenic' as the left seems to insist it should be.

Collateral damage is a given in war, civilians are killed, men women and children, in great numbers.

'...America could easily win this war with an all out, wartime effort, in the entire region where State supported terrorism flourishes.' (paraphrase)

I have no doubt in that. Someday, it will have to be done, a full confrontation with Muslim radicals who have declared Jihad on America and the entire western world.

Coulter is one of the few capable of knowing and saying this before a large audience. I think we owe her a deep debt of gratitude for her courage to speak out and speak truth.

amicus...

 

[Misty_Morning]

I don't care what anyone says...Ann Coulter kicks ass. I don't agee with some her viewpoints, but I love her commentary. Ya gotta keep in mind that she mixes humor and politics with intelligence, wit and style.


And...I think she is gorgeous.

 

[Pure]

hey, at least she's doing something right, help Edwards raise money...

Coulter's Words Help Edwards Raise Cash

NEDRA PICKLER | June 27, 2007 04:17 PM EST |


WASHINGTON — Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said Wednesday that conservative author Ann Coulter's attacks are hurtful and it's important that he respond to them.

While Edwards made his first comments to The Associated Press in response to Coulter's suggestion that she wished he would be "killed in a terrorist assassination plot," his campaign was also using her remarks to bring in donations in the final week before the next fundraising deadline.

It's not the first time Coulter has given the Edwards campaign a financial boost. In March, she called Edwards a "faggot" and the campaign used video of the comment to help raise $300,000 before the end of the first quarter.

The campaign has sent two e-mails to supporters this week, asking them to send donations to defy her remarks and help Edwards meet his goal of raising $9 million in the second quarter ending Saturday. The first e-mail from campaign adviser Joe Trippi showed a clip of Coulter on ABC's "Good Morning America," where she said Monday that she wished Edwards would be killed by terrorists.

When Coulter appeared Tuesday on MSNBC's "Hardball," Elizabeth Edwards called in to ask Coulter to stop making personal attacks on her husband. The exchanged deteriorated, with Coulter shouting over Mrs. Edwards and demanding that the campaign stop using her name to raise money if they want her to stop personal attacks. Response to the controversy was so large that it repeatedly crashed the server for MSNBC's political blog Wednesday.

Mrs. Edwards followed up with an e-mail to supporters Wednesday morning that included a clip of their exchange and a donation request. The campaign said they raised more money this week than from any previous e-mail campaign, but declined to give a total.

"I think when they engage in these attacks and use the language of hate, it's very important to stand up," Edwards said. "What happens if you are silent when this kind of hateful language is used _ not just by her, but by anyone _ hate gets a foothold."

Edwards pointed out that Coulter's attacks haven't been limited to him, but also included his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination. Coulter has made fun of Hillary Rodham Clinton's legs and compared Barack Obama to terrorists because his middle name is Hussein.

"What she said about Senator Clinton and Senator Obama is outrageous," Edwards said. "And somebody has to stand up when she makes these kind of attacks."
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[amicus]

You get it all wrong (on purpose) as usual.

Ms. Coulter did not say what you imply. If fact, it was a left wing pundit who on his program wished that the Vice President had been killed in a terrorist attack. The left, of course, goes scot free when such attacks are made and no notice was taken of it by the left biased media.

What Ms. Coulter did say was that to escape criticism for her 'faggot' comment, she would be safe to say that "Edwards could be killed as a result of a terrorist attack and no one would criticize me as the left can say it with impunity.

Incidentally, Ms. Coulter stated that she made more money than the Edwards website did and that she hoped they would continue to slander her on their site as it was profitable to them.

But, (patting myself on the back), I did accurately predict the tempest in the teapot over Mrs. Edwards surrogate appearance, which was carefully orchestrated by MSNBC and Chris Mathews.

Liberals are so cute and silly sometimes.



amicus

 

[flavortang]

Isn't she the idiot that said we should go to the Middle East, conquer their lands and convert everyone to Christianity? Yeah, that would solve all of our problems. (slaps forehead) I can't believe anyone would exalt this chick to demi-god status? (sigh)

 

[amicus]

Isn't she the idiot that said we should go to the Middle East, conquer their lands and convert everyone to Christianity? Yeah, that would solve all of our problems. (slaps forehead) I can't believe anyone would exalt this chick to demi-god status? (sigh)

~~~

Ya gotta quit quoting the left wing bloggers flavortang, and maybe either read her books or listen to her lectures.

She recommended treating the war on terrorism for what it is, a war. She made the comparison with world war two and the total surrender demanded by the United States and the Allies from both Germany and Japan and referred to the aftermath, with the rebuilding of Europe and Japan.

No one gives a shit about Christianity, a dead issue, but Islamic/Muslim terrorists will continue their efforts until they are squashed like the vermin they are.

amicus

 

[flavortang]

I'm open to listen to arguments from any side but usually, the second I hear someone say "liberal" or "conservative" with the intent of sectioning off whole chunks of the population by neat and tidy titles for the purpose of division, I tune them out. That goes for Coulter, O'Reilly, Olbermann, Franken, the whole lot of them. I consider myself an independent, not beholden to any party. Just give me the damn truth, not the 'truth' that happens to make a particular party look good.

I have a hard time watching commentators on most networks because they're so blantantly leaning towards one political party or another. You can't really accept anything you hear on the news anymore because the entire system is there to divide people for political purposes. "Dubya this, Hillary that, Obama this, Guiliani that" One network sympathetic to one party bashes the other and vice versa.

I tend to watch a good collection of most of the networks and the comedy news shows, not taking seriously ANYTHING I see. That's the sad thing. All news is corrupted with spin.

I do agree that we're at war, but it's more of a war of ideas and ideas cant be quashed with highly destructive armaments, unfortunately. The problem is we're dealing with people who die for faith. Faith isn't something you can shake people of, even if its a delusional faith where the male believers think there's 72 virgins waiting for them if they strap C4 to their chests and blow themselves up along with innocent bystanders.

Not sure of the math, but it seems like the male/female ratio here on Earth is close to 1:1 so I don't see how they're getting 72 sexless, beautiful women in the afterlife for every dumbass who blows himself up, but, whatever.

America is the sole superpower on the planet and the more power a nation has the more their must be done to sustain it. A war of terrorism was almost inevitable for us, as it would be for any superpower on the planet. If Norway was the great superpower, they'd be having the war on terror and we'd be watching on the sidelines.

 

[amicus]

Ah, flavortang...I want to respond to your last, but in a general way, not just to you or your post.

Since the days of Thomas Paine and the political 'broadsides' single sheet printed newspapers, media has been a ground for competing viewpoints.

Of course there is 'spin' from every media source, that is how it works in a free society where the freedom of speech is protected.

It is up to you, the consumer, to decide wherein, 'truth' lies and while I understand your claim of 'Independent', there really is no such thing, quite like fence sitting or being agnostic where the only real question is belief or non belief.

There is a danger in wanting to manipulate and manage the media, just today Democrats in Congress are calling for a reinstitution of the FCC "Fairness Doctrine", thrown out twenty years ago, to limit and control what is described as, "Right Wing Radio Talk shows.

The fact is, with the advent of the web and cell phones, blackberries, etcetera, there is more and more varied opinion available now than ever before in history.

There are two extremes in politics and probably about everything, the left that ultimately desires a total command society with no individual rights, the right that ultimately desires the maximum amount of individual freedom.

Of course, the distance between those extremes is littered with paler shades of grey and therein lies the rub.

amicus

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Was it Liar who suggested we set Coulter up with O.J. Simpson?

 

[flavortang]

Of course there's such a thing as independence. Independent, being a political party, which means I'm not beholden to the nonsensical in-fighting between two parties whose goal is personal glory and not what's right for their constituents. If I had to pick a party, I'd go Libertarian, where the ideal is that as long as what you do doesn't negatively affect me, you should have the freedom to do so. That's freedom. Not someone saying that if you have a certain religion or no religion or if you're a dissenter against a presidential administration that you're not patriotic. That's complete horseshit.

As of today, the two main parties have been hi-jacked by religious fringe groups and civil rights organizations that have their own private agendas. I don't want to be associated with any group that's kept hostage by special interests groups.

That's the problem with modern politics. It's more a popularity contest than a system utilized to enforce standing laws. Every career politician wants to kiss everyone's ass to make sure they maximize their voter-base potential, meanwhile ignoring the actual issues. I see most of them like used-car salesmen. They'll say anything to get your vote.

 

[amicus]

Was it Liar who suggested we set Coulter up with O.J. Simpson?

~~~

Depending on the feminine quality of your voice, Kittyn, had I a choice between you and Ms. Coulter, you win going away.



ami

 

[flavortang]

I've never seen or heard your voice Selena, but I'd still pick you over Coulter.

 

[JamesSD]

Won't debate Ann Coulter's anorexia, although she clearly "needs a sammich" and "has sharp knees" as those who are in the know about such things would say. I do pity her, a lot. She's clearly not a happy person, but few political commentators are. I certainly have no jealousy, I wouldn't trade my life for hers in a million years.

"She recommended treating the war on terrorism for what it is, a war"
This is the fundamental problem with how the NeoCons view terrorism. You can't fight a war on terror any more than you can fight a war on drugs (which, we apparently lost, by the way). Wars are fought between countries, or else are civil wars, (which, Iraq is in, by the way).

I view terrorism as an economic, rather than religious issue. Terrorists are recruited from impoverished, angry young men who have little hope for their futures and self betterment. Men who can afford to marry and support a family don't become terrorists. Unfortunately, economic issues are extremely challenging. Add "poverty" to a list of abstract concepts you can't fight wars against.

Finally, I wish the Edwards campaign wouldn't stoop to arguing with Ann Coulter. She doesn't need nor deserved to be addressed by a serious presidential candidate. She's a foaming attack dog at best, and it's best to leave it to Al Franken to sedate her type.

 

[amicus]

Won't debate Ann Coulter's anorexia, although she clearly "needs a sammich" and "has sharp knees" as those who are in the know about such things would say. I do pity her, a lot. She's clearly not a happy person, but few political commentators are. I certainly have no jealousy, I wouldn't trade my life for hers in a million years.

"She recommended treating the war on terrorism for what it is, a war"
This is the fundamental problem with how the NeoCons view terrorism. You can't fight a war on terror any more than you can fight a war on drugs (which, we apparently lost, by the way). Wars are fought between countries, or else are civil wars, (which, Iraq is in, by the way).

I view terrorism as an economic, rather than religious issue. Terrorists are recruited from impoverished, angry young men who have little hope for their futures and self betterment. Men who can afford to marry and support a family don't become terrorists. Unfortunately, economic issues are extremely challenging. Add "poverty" to a list of abstract concepts you can't fight wars against.

Finally, I wish the Edwards campaign wouldn't stoop to arguing with Ann Coulter. She doesn't need nor deserved to be addressed by a serious presidential candidate. She's a foaming attack dog at best, and it's best to leave it to Al Franken to sedate her type.

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Well, I am sure you know, but for those who don't, what you describe above is Marxist Dialectic, class struggle and all that crap which lead to a socialist abolishment of all private property. Poppycock.

Had the world not been exhausted from the first world war, those who advocate western values would have acted to stop the rise of Japanese Imperialism in the twenties and thirties and acted to curtail the growth of fascism during the same period and perhaps saved a hundred millions live that were lost in the second world war.

As Ms. Coulter put it, the Muslim world is a stone age culture with no respect for individual human rights, men or women and has declared a religious war on western society for the past fifty years following world war two. The Arabs sided with the Nazi's in many cases, have vowed to drive the Jews into the sea and have perpetrated violent acts on a global basis for the past thirty years and more if you include the Munich Olympic massacre.

We are at war and only if we can contain the threat to western society can we avoid another all out world war.

I often muse about what it might take to convince those who think like you, that the Muslims have declared war. A dirty bomb in London or Paris or Los Angeles that takes a million innocent lives?

Or is there any point at all where you would open your eyes?

I have my doubts.

amicus...

 

[Pure]

i think this amicus hardon for coulter is neat. she has a few more brains than ami, and is 10 times as successful in grabbing the public; no wonder the hardon. for she has a real flair for namecalling and slander, whereas ami just recycles ayn rand's comments from the 50s.