Could it be that we are too free?

minsue said:
Wait a minute! You didn't get the agenda? Dammit, sher, you were supposed to take the minutes at the last meeting! :mad: Now what are we going to do?

Relax, Min. I've got 'em. ;) More organized than she thinks!

~lucky
 
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dirtylover said:
Sorry, bit of a subject change here.

Do we have too much freedom? I think yes, in terms of how much choice we have. More than any other culture we can decide our fate and our lives.

We choose our friends, our lovers, our education, our career, our religion, what to watch, read and listen to. We go to the supermarket and are confronted by a thousand different brands to choose between. Should we be economical, fashionable, ecological?

Who are we? Funky, punky, caring, tough, hippy, conservative etc etc.

We have so much freedom to make life choices our senses are overloaded. We waste a phenomenol amount of time trying to make the best choices and have the best quality of life.

No wonder so many of us are unhappy. We're too worried about making the wrong choices. That's why a war is good for public morale, it focuses us. At the moment, a large number of us are kinda lost -- - too much freedom.

dl

1) War good for morale? Vietnam and Iraq and the U.S. Civil War are examples of wars that turned us against each other. Good for politicians' security, certainly, because frightened people cling to the known.

The U.S. invasion of Grenada was the closest thing to a morale-building war that I can think off off-hand. It can't have been much fun for the people who were there, tip-toeing through the unexploded grenades, but back here it was treated like a talk show joke. A practice war. An eccentric hobby of the president's.

2) I'm not suffering from too much freedom. I may suffer from poor decision-making, but who's to say that someone else could give me a better result?

I may be confused by my choices, and frankly I wish there were three kinds of laundry detergent instead of dozens. But there's no one I trust to make personal decisions on my behalf. There hasn't been since I accepted the burden of adulthood in a democracy.

Who would you trust to relieve you of problematic decisions? An elected official? A religious leader? Would the same person get to make my decisions, or would I get to choose my own?

;)
 
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"Your right to punch with your fist ends at the tip of another person's nose."

I forget who said that, but it's my philosophy of government. We need government to protect us from each other, not to protect us from ourselves.
 
gauchecritic said:
Unless I'm being too literal here I don't think any of the responses to Tulip's "first article" has noted that it concerns groups of people who have no choice as to the group to which they belong. So there is essentialy no limitation on "free speech" as such. Merely on not being allowed to express, or by expression promote, xenephobia.

She can say a particular black person is lazy, a particular gay is sick in the mind or a particular Jew is a crafty bastard and thereby laying herself open to slander or libel laws. Hence your free speech.

In the end (in any country intent on protecting its boundaries) your speech is as free as the government wants it to be however free you think it is.

Gauche

Gauche,

Glad you noticed. I was a bit at a loss how to explain better. You did quite all right. ;)
Thanks.

By the way, it's not my article. It's the basis of the Dutch constitution. I'm not that important. LOL

:cool:
 
Black Tulip said:
Gauche,

Glad you noticed. I was a bit at a loss how to explain better. You did quite all right. ;)
Thanks.

By the way, it's not my article. It's the basis of the Dutch constitution. I'm not that important. LOL

:cool:

BT,

That is an adoreable av!

-Colly
 
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