Concerning Legislative Power:

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[KingOrfeo]

Let us remember and revisit, the good John Locke. His understanding of the nature of man and the threats to civil society posed by those in power deserve our review

Indeed, and periodically, so long as we don't take him as controlling authority. Likewise with Karl Marx.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

He had more influence on the founding fathers and Western Civilization than Marx ever could. I understand your fear of that controlling "authority," nothing could be more harmful to the administrative state, than the sovereignty of the individual.

You see it with some animals; toss them outta their cages, and they loiter at the gate to be let in again.

 

[Sean]

All wealth is the product of labor.
John Locke

To love our neighbor as ourselves is such a truth for regulating human society, that by that alone one might determine all the cases in social morality.
John Locke

What worries you, masters you.
John Locke

 

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[eyer]

Political philosophy championing the government of individual liberty comes necessarily first to guide people naturally longing to be free...

...reverence for those principles and the integrity and virtue of those cementing them are equally essential for not only its initial implementation, but also for its continuing endurance. As too, of course, are the constant steps solidly taken to educate progeny.

Without reverence for the political principles of individual liberty, and bereft integrity and virtue within those who've anyway sworn to uphold those principles, once what was Declared and then Constituted as a Revolutionary nation of law simply becomes just another drop in the political world bucket full of nothing but nations of men...

...and thus, a Constituted republican form of federal government - represented by 3 branches and balanced by the independent States (Senate) and free individuals (We the People represented in the House) - becomes simply a national government whose dictates seep down to rule the minutia of every individual's life.

This is clearly the United Socialist State of America today...

...yet America's most relevant political voice on the issue of individual liberty still resounds much more clearly:

What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure.

Let them that have ears, hear...

 

[Sean Renaud]

When people realize they don't want freedom (as such is and shall remain impossible for a long time) they want the illusion of freedom we'll be worlds better off.

 

[KingOrfeo]

When people realize they don't want freedom (as such is and shall remain impossible for a long time) . . .

What would make it possible?

 

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[blobfish]

I thought Ben killed John Locke?

 

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[Sean Renaud]

What would make it possible?

Magic?

To be honest sufficient tech that people could construct shelter and provide food for themselves. There aren't a whole lot of things that threaten us these days.

 

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[eyer]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoratitative, void, and of no force." Thomas Jefferson

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occassions, that I wish it to be always kept alive." Thomas Jefferson

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” Samuel Adams

"The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." H.L. Mencken

 

[Sean Renaud]

Says who?

Reality to be honest. We are not now, nor have we ever been a collection of individuals. We are a group and that's all there is too it. That doesn't mean some aren't better than others but still a group.

 

[RobDownSouth]

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[koalabear]

Says who?

A retard using pereg logic.

 

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[bra_man69]

Iggy you're bullshit. Untill you get 5000 posts.

Got that right.

Know this isn't the thread but what's your feelings about the other ruling that came down Thursday.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

That's for damn sure. They get broken to the routine of plantation life.

Plantation life was better than what subsistence farmers and settlers had going for themselves.

One of our slave cottages still exists in Tallahassee, and its better than anything Abe Lincoln called 'home' for 1/2 his life. Its roomy, well built, and looks adequate. In fact its a lot like the cottage Prince Achilles Murat lived in outside of Tallahassee.

http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/memory/PhotographicCollection/photo_exhibits/plantations/_RP06036.jpg

Its 180 years old.