Computer techies please help me figure this out, Please

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

I been using Zone Alarm and been on all day and as usually it says says i downloaded about 10mb of stuff surfing but what reallly go me was that it told me i sent 1218mb.

can someone tell me how in the world i did that?

I am on a 36.6k modem, it can't download that much on a perfect connection day, how can it send that much. and why wasn't the little connection window saying anything about sending? it only suggests i sent the normal .75mb or so, in the usualy cookie stuff

so how is so much sent?

 

[Weird Harold]

I been using Zone Alarm and been on all day and as usually it says says i downloaded about 10mb of stuff surfing but what reallly go me was that it told me i sent 1218mb.

can someone tell me how in the world i did that?

I am on a 36.6k modem, it can't download that much on a perfect connection day, how can it send that much. and why wasn't the little connection window saying anything about sending? it only suggests i sent the normal .75mb or so, in the usualy cookie stuff

so how is so much sent?

I dont think there's any way to determine how much you atually sent. I agree that on a 36.6Kb modem you'd still be sending 1.2Gb -- this has to be a glitch in the reporting routines. For some reason, the number got corrupted and is totally irrelevant to what actually happened. Sort of the electroninc equivalent of hitting the X key when you meant to hit + on your calculator.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Re: Computer techies please help me figure this out, Please

I dont think there's any way to determine how much you atually sent. I agree that on a 36.6Kb modem you'd still be sending 1.2Gb -- this has to be a glitch in the reporting routines. For some reason, the number got corrupted and is totally irrelevant to what actually happened. Sort of the electroninc equivalent of hitting the X key when you meant to hit + on your calculator.

ok, I thought that too, so i checked out the logfiles on PC Cillin and it says the same thing as the Zone Alarm Log give or take 1-5 mb

this whole thing is confusing i was much bettter of with out security then i wans't wondering what was going on

I have ran mcaffe, norton, pccillin, fprotand that online scanner so there is no virii. this has me bewildered

The firewall has blocked Internet access to 141.153.32.85 (UDP Port 0) from your computer.

Occurred: 50 times between 28/02/02 4:24:48 PM and 28/02/02 4:24:48 PM

The firewall has blocked Internet access to 62.84.65.210 (UDP Port 0) from your computer. 518652 alerts suppressed between 28/02/02 16:24:48 and 28/02/02 16:27:20.

Occurred: 250 times between 28/02/02 4:30:00 PM and 28/02/02 5:27:00 PM

The firewall has blocked Internet access to 24.103.216.48 (UDP Port 0) from your computer. 259389 alerts suppressed between 28/02/02 16:36:56 and 28/02/02 16:38:18.

Occurred: 100 times between 28/02/02 5:00:50 PM and 28/02/02 5:20:14 PM

The firewall has blocked Internet access to 208.180.182.124 (UDP Port 0) from your computer. 259037 alerts suppressed between 28/02/02 17:20:14 and 28/02/02 17:21:42.

Occurred: 100 times between 28/02/02 5:21:50 PM and 28/02/02 5:26:08 PM

The firewall has blocked Internet access to 213.48.82.93 (UDP Port 0) from your computer. 259213 alerts suppressed between 28/02/02 17:21:50 and 28/02/02 17:23:08.

Occurred: 150 times between 28/02/02 5:24:12 PM and 28/02/02 5:24:56 PM

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: Re: Re: Computer techies please help me figure this out, Please

ok, I thought that too, so i checked out the logfiles on PC Cillin and it says the same thing as the Zone Alarm Log give or take 1-5 mb

I suspect both programs are relyng on a value that Windows stores someplace and that's the value that got corrupted.

The DDN icon in your sytem tray also tracks bytes sent and that value agrees with my 3Com Modem monitor program -- The difference is the Modem Manage program gives me a graphic image of the bytes as they're sent so I have some idea of where and when the went out.

Given what Iknow of the way Windows programs interact, it seems likely that a single value is acessed by any progam that wants to know how many bytes have been sent or received -- Programmers being the lazy people we are we tend not to "reinvent the wheel" if the information is availbale from a system call.

 

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[Unclebill]

Probably not much help but . . .

while you're connected to the 'net, open your dial-up monitor (should be an icon in the system tray). I know that in Win 95/98 it keeps track of the bytes downloaded (what you receive). It may also keep a count of the bytes you upload as well.

I'm not sure about that. I use NT 4.0 and the monitor there shows the byte count for both directions and it shows both compressed and uncompressed counts.

Typically, what I see for download is 7-8 times what I upload. I'd expect you would have a similar ratio like maybe 5-15 times unless you send a LOT OF FILES.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Re: Probably not much help but . . .

while you're connected to the 'net, open your dial-up monitor (should be an icon in the system tray). I know that in Win 95/98 it keeps track of the bytes downloaded (what you receive). It may also keep a count of the bytes you upload as well.

I'm not sure about that. I use NT 4.0 and the monitor there shows the byte count for both directions and it shows both compressed and uncompressed counts.

Typically, what I see for download is 7-8 times what I upload. I'd expect you would have a similar ratio like maybe 5-15 times unless you send a LOT OF FILES.

thats what i was getting at my downloads you know the regular stuff you get from surfing was the same in the dial up as zone alarm, and pccillin reported but the uploads were different

the dial up showed the normal amount that i come to expect over the last year the zone alarm and pccillin report the 1.2gigs of upload

if they are using some setting the computer is using and the dial up is using the same settings why the differce inthe numbers ? ?

 

[Unclebill]

Not a clue.

My best guess would be that Zone Alarm is gettting the wrong information or it's making a bad calculation on what it does get or both

Just had an odd thought, though. Check the upload byte count from the dial-up monitor and see how it relates to the Zone Alarm count. It occurred to me that Zone Alarm might be giving you the BIT count rather than the BYTE count. If it's 8:1, that may be what's happened.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

dial up .75-.8mb
zonealarm & pccillin 1218mb

I can't make one go into th othe as few as 8 times

 

[BlkPnthr]

dial up .75-.8mb
zonealarm & pccillin 1218mb

I can't make one go into th othe as few as 8 times

Simple solution...ditch Zonealarm. Why do you even have a firewall on dialup?????It eats valuable bandwidth that you can't afford to lose. If you MUST use one though, go BlackIce. It's one of the best firewalls out there.

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Simple solution...ditch Zonealarm. Why do you even have a firewall on dialup?????It eats valuable bandwidth that you can't afford to lose. If you MUST use one though, go BlackIce. It's one of the best firewalls out there.

BlackIce one of the best? ROTFLMAO

your the first person I have ever heard say anything good about blackice

 

[BlkPnthr]

BlackIce one of the best? ROTFLMAO

your the first person I have ever heard say anything good about blackice

Test it...you'll see I've tested it against programs that perform thousands of different possible attacks and it's not once failed me.

 

[freakygirl]

I use BlackIce and love it...

no problems with it at all..

 

[BlkPnthr]

You didn't answer my question by the way. What the hell are you doing using a firewall on dialup for? ROFLMAO

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

i did over at GRC it failed zonealarm didn't but maybe my computer was being naught

 

[BlkPnthr]

i did over at GRC it failed zonealarm didn't but maybe my computer was being naught

LOL....what's the address? I gotta see this for myself. I've never seen BlackIce fail

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

You didn't answer my question by the way. What the hell are you doing using a firewall on dialup for? ROFLMAO

because I am sick and tired of people taking over my computer

http://www.grc.com

 

[freakygirl]

I'm using a dialup.. and BlackIce..

I have thousands of hits a day..

why shouldn't someone use blackice with a dial up? aren't we as vulnerable as other people using other types of connections?

 

[BlkPnthr]

Funny....I tried all three tests offered by them and BlackIce stopped them all cold in thier tracks.

 

[BlkPnthr]

I'm using a dialup.. and BlackIce..

I have thousands of hits a day..

why shouldn't someone use blackice with a dial up? aren't we as vulnerable as other people using other types of connections?

Yes and no. Dialup is a very dynamic connection. Everything is always changing ie: IP addy, gateway, subnet mask and so on. If you're on a cable connection or DSL, or other form of high speed connection it is more static. It changes but very infrequently in most cases. I can't remember the last time my IP changed. So I am more suceptible to attacks because it remains the same. If you're being truely attacked, on dialup it's harder to pinpoint you.

 

[BlkPnthr]

I'm using a dialup.. and BlackIce..

I have thousands of hits a day..

why shouldn't someone use blackice with a dial up? aren't we as vulnerable as other people using other types of connections?

Thousands of hits? You mean that BI sees many "possible" attacks?

 

[freakygirl]

ok.. so isn't better to be safe than sorry? I paid alot of money for my computer.. I use it daily.. not only for this.. but for my "job". I have some important info on here that I don't want anyone else getting. (financial records of my ex husbands business, for one)

I bought BlackIce for $40.. that's nothing compared to what kind of trouble I'd be in.. if some of the information on this computer was stolen.


Todd.. I also did those tests.. my Blackice passed also

 

[BlkPnthr]

ok.. so isn't better to be safe than sorry? I paid alot of money for my computer.. I use it daily.. not only for this.. but for my "job". I have some important info on here that I don't want anyone else getting. (financial records of my ex husbands business, for one)

I bought BlackIce for $40.. that's nothing compared to what kind of trouble I'd be in.. if some of the information on this computer was stolen.


Todd.. I also did those tests.. my Blackice passed also

It's personal preference really. Nothing says you can't have a personal firewall with dialup. I just think it's a huge waste of bandwidth is all The chances of being hacked on dialup are slim. Just thought you may want to know.

 

[freakygirl]

Thousands of hits? You mean that BI sees many "possible" attacks?

My BlackIce has been running since 3:11 pm today (when I first got online)

I've had 183 TCP port probes .. 20 HTTP port probes... 17 FTP port probes and 3 subseven port probes.. and 2 Socks port probes.

I have no idea what these are.. but I don't like the fact that someone is attempting to access my computer.


I've also had something called 'fingerprints' but I haven't seen that lately

 

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

how is a firewall a waste of bandwidth space?

I have a 56.6k modem and I am downloading at that speed it hasn't slowed with the installation of the zonealarm

and it was free as opposed to 40$