Combined Moderation Morality Question

[oggbashan]

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The original poster said that that it was easier if she was sixteen. I'm clueless as to why that's easier. Maybe it has something to do with the story's timeline, which he didn't describe. The author is forewarned and I'm going to let him make his judgement and take his bumps, if there are any.


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I have had problems with a story's timeline before. I was writing that a character had a child before marriage, and that was a significant plot element. The original timeline would have meant a child at age 15 to fit with the rest of the draft story. I had to reconsider the whole timeline, including temporarily assigning real historic years for date of birth, marriage law changes and death to make the child born at least 9 months after the mother's 18th birthday.

It was a real pain and took longer than writing the original draft.

 

[Pocketshaver]

there is a lot of bull shitting going on about character age.

I have personally read many stories here about under age women having sex, having children, and being raped.

Hell ive seen some really popular romance stories on here about how some guy saves a homeless 30 year old woman with a 15 year old daughter

Just got reading one about a 25 year old woman with a 9-12 year old daughter.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I have had problems with a story's timeline before. I was writing that a character had a child before marriage, and that was a significant plot element. The original timeline would have meant a child at age 15 to fit with the rest of the draft story. I had to reconsider the whole timeline, including temporarily assigning real historic years for date of birth, marriage law changes and death to make the child born at least 9 months after the mother's 18th birthday.

It was a real pain and took longer than writing the original draft.

I had some backstory where it was mentioned that one of the characters had a baby at fifteen or so. Laurel was fine with that. As long as you don't get into graphic detail about the conception, it shouldn't be an issue?

 

[Voboy]

I had some backstory where it was mentioned that one of the characters had a baby at fifteen or so. Laurel was fine with that. As long as you don't get into graphic detail about the conception, it shouldn't be an issue?

Those have snuck into some of mine. I change it when I find it, just to be safe.

 

[ChuckWolf]

For a variety of reasons (including morality and legality), sites like this avoid even the appearance of having underage content; even a whiff of pedophilia could irreparably damage the site's partnerships with banks and/or credit card companies.

Other erotic fiction websites have the exact same policy for this very reason.

 

[MelissaBaby]

there is a lot of bull shitting going on about character age.

I have personally read many stories here about under age women having sex, having children, and being raped.

Hell ive seen some really popular romance stories on here about how some guy saves a homeless 30 year old woman with a 15 year old daughter

Just got reading one about a 25 year old woman with a 9-12 year old daughter.

You can allude to underage sex, you can make it known that a character has had sex as a minor, but you can't describe it. None of the examples you cited violate sound like they the rules.

 

[Pocketshaver]

https://www.literotica.com/s/alpha-killer

This story has a lot more then alluding to underage sex.

Alluding would be "yeah I had sex when I was 15 for a ticket to a van halen concert, first row"


But talking about it, describing it down to the detail as done in this story is NOT alluding at all. Its a titillating description of a 14 year old getting raped.

 

[Pocketshaver]

even remember a nice one set in Australia when it goes into good detail of how a 15 year old got gang raped on a big rock at the end of her drive way

 

[ElectricBlue]

But talking about it, describing it down to the detail as done in this story is NOT alluding at all. Its a titillating description of a 14 year old getting raped.

I skimmed it, but couldn't see the underage content you allude to. Just lots of werewolf stuff. There was an age reference, to 21, and reference to a height of 5'5", which is no big deal, height-wise. Are you reading the words, or reading into the words what you want to read? Or just stirring the pot?

 

[KeithD]

I skimmed it, but couldn't see the underage content you allude to. Just lots of werewolf stuff. There was an age reference, to 21, and reference to a height of 5'5", which is no big deal, height-wise. Are you reading the words, or reading into the words what you want to read? Or just stirring the pot?

I didn't either. Might have been talking about a sister, though, who was identified as eighteen but kidnapped four years earlier and was being pimped. There was a hint she'd been prostituting for a while.

In any event, if someone finds something like that and is incensed by it, the procedure should be to click the report button, not come to the discussion board Laurel doesn't read and complain to users who can't do anything about it.

Pocketshaver has a tendency to bitch breathlessly about everything (as was done tonight). I have the poster on ignore but opened the posts up tonight as I was ready to toddle off to bed and thought I'd take one more full waltz around the board (hoping my latest entry would be posted before I closed down).

 

[sidonie45]

Morality is such an ethical question. Sorry, I couldn’t help that.
Make her Australian. Legal age for sex here is 16, and for drinking its 18.

 

[KeithD]

Morality is such an ethical question. Sorry, I couldn’t help that.
Make her Australian. Legal age for sex here is 16, and for drinking its 18.

That means nothing in terms of being posted to Literotica.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Morality is such an ethical question. Sorry, I couldn’t help that.
Make her Australian. Legal age for sex here is 16, and for drinking its 18.

Not for Literotica, you can't. Eighteen is eighteen, all around the world. Lit policy doesn't care about jurisdictions - the policy is no descriptions of sexual activity involving any character under eighteen.

You can say, "Julie lost her virginity at sixteen," but you can't write a detailed description here at Lit.

Is that clear enough for you, whoever it was who said I constantly misrepresent the policy?

 

[KeithD]

Sure, it's clear. But now you can see why it continually has to be repeated and not mixed with what's legal or not (which I think was the point you are butthurt about).

 

[ElectricBlue]

Sure, it's clear. But now you can see why it continually has to be repeated and not mixed with what's legal or not (which I think was the point you are butthurt about).

Tongue in cheek, just to head the injuns off at the pass .

I don't think I ever give the legalities any traction - Laurel is judge, jury and executioner, and she writes her own laws.

 

[Pocketshaver]

you fools

cant even read. I merely plugged the first chapter up. if you read the story youll see graphic descriptions of a 14 year old girl kidnapped, chained up, raped, sold into sex trade.

in later sections you get descriptions of other under 18 year olds used for sex

 

[SimonDoom]

cant even read. I merely plugged the first chapter up. if you read the story youll see graphic descriptions of a 14 year old girl kidnapped, chained up, raped, sold into sex trade.

in later sections you get descriptions of other under 18 year olds used for sex

I don't know what you're referring to. I scanned the story and did not see this. I did a text search and the number 14 and word "fourteen" do not appear anywhere in the story. Where do you get these ages from the story?

 

[oggbashan]

cant even read. I merely plugged the first chapter up. if you read the story youll see graphic descriptions of a 14 year old girl kidnapped, chained up, raped, sold into sex trade.

in later sections you get descriptions of other under 18 year olds used for sex

Then report it. Stories like that risk closing Literotica for all of us.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Then report it. Stories like that risk closing Literotica for all of us.

Ogg, three of us have looked at the story - he's pulling our chain. It's a werewolf story with adult protagonists; if he's reading underage into it, I suspect it's because he wants to.

 

[SimonDoom]

Ogg, three of us have looked at the story - he's pulling our chain. It's a werewolf story with adult protagonists; if he's reading underage into it, I suspect it's because he wants to.

I don't get the sense from his tone that he's yanking our chain, but I truly have no idea what he's talking about.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Ogg, three of us have looked at the story - he's pulling our chain. It's a werewolf story with adult protagonists; if he's reading underage into it, I suspect it's because he wants to.

I missed it on a first read-through, but on a second read there definitely is under-age content.

On page 1, Talia rescues her sister Tania:

I recognized that voice.

It couldn't be.

Not after almost four years of my sister being missing, the search futile, the Packs no help in finding her.

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I finished washing her, then quickly finished my shower before toweling us both dry. I pulled the shirt and shorts over her thin body, she was eighteen years old and at least twenty pounds underweight.

On page 2, the story flashes back to "four years earlier" when Tania went missing - so she's definitely around fourteen at this stage - and page 3 describes Tania being kidnapped and raped, though it skips over the actual sex. Maybe Laurel let it through because it wasn't graphically described, or maybe she missed that Tania was fourteen at the time of that scene for the same reasons that the rest of us missed it - you have to join the dots with info from three different parts of the story, which isn't easy when skimming.

Would've made life easier for everybody if Pocketshaver had just highlighted those points from the story, rather than berating people for missing something that definitely wasn't obvious.

I haven't read the later chapters, so no idea what's in those.

 

[SimonDoom]

I missed it on a first read-through, but on a second read there definitely is under-age content.

On page 1, Talia rescues her sister Tania:



On page 2, the story flashes back to "four years earlier" when Tania went missing - so she's definitely around fourteen at this stage - and page 3 describes Tania being kidnapped and raped, though it skips over the actual sex. Maybe Laurel let it through because it wasn't graphically described, or maybe she missed that Tania was fourteen at the time of that scene for the same reasons that the rest of us missed it - you have to join the dots with info from three different parts of the story, which isn't easy when skimming.

Would've made life easier for everybody if Pocketshaver had just highlighted those points from the story, rather than berating people for missing something that definitely wasn't obvious.

I haven't read the later chapters, so no idea what's in those.

I went back to the story and skimmed it more slowly and carefully. You're right, and I suspect that if the author had made it clear what Tania's age was when things were happening, the story wouldn't get through. But there's nothing in it that backs up Pocketshaver's description:

"describing it down to the detail as done in this story is NOT alluding at all. Its a titillating description of a 14 year old getting raped"

I think those of us who skimmed it missed what you referred to because nothing in the story quite matched this description. There was no detail. The sex wasn't described. It happened "off screen" and then Tania ended up pregnant.

I'm not aware of any examples of stories on this site that actually describe under-18 sex. So to that extent I think Pocketshaver is incorrect.

 

[KeithD]

As I noted back in post #85 . . .

 

[NotWise]

I'm not aware of any examples of stories on this site that actually describe under-18 sex. So to that extent I think Pocketshaver is incorrect.

Lit policy does not deny that sex often starts before eighteen. The rule is that sex before eighteen can't be described.

I haven't read the story y'all are talking about, but it sounds like it fits the rule. The reader can (with some effort) interpret the underage content, but the events aren't detailed.