Collaboration

[Sophz_Kandi]

Hey folks,

I have had some great Ideas for a steamy story recently and was wondering if any one would be interested in collaborating with me?

I have always wanted to find someone to share ideas with and bounce off ofto create an amazing story.

As i said I only have a head full of ideas at the moment and haven't wrote anything on paper yet. The storyline is based on a fantasy pretty close to my heart.

My idea was for me to write the girls parts (which is loosely based on myself!) and for someone else to do the guys.

Thought it might be interesting.

The basic drift is...

Young girl having relationship issues with her boyfriend.
So fed up of it all she decides to flee england for the states.

On her journey her past seems determined to haunt her and tear her down which brings back all the painful feelings and emotions from all of her past relationships and encounters.

Things leaves her feeling scorned, infuriated and worthless So she marches over the borders into Canada vowing to stay off men for the rest of her days.

Desperate for n escape from these ghosts she flees to the mountains.. lots of woodland around, various wildlife, the odd stream and lots of snow

There she stumbles upon a log cabin . After loosing her tent in the earlier day she decides to have a look and see if there is anywhere she can rest for a few hours.
Cabin is empty but looks lived in and very well looked after.

She decides to run herself a bath in front of the open log fire.
The warmth seduces her and she eventually falls into a light sleep.
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(For the guy I imagine he is an "occasional cowboy" (lol) has he own life in Canada somewhere but escapes to the mountains as much as possible, a real mountain buff!
He has been spending more time than usual in his cabin as he also is trying to escape ghosts from his past)


Guy approaches his holiday cabin.. or as he likes to call it.. the hideout.

sees a light on through the window.

De mounts his horse, Draws his hunting pistol and enters cautiously......

and so the story unfolds!


Even if you are not interest in a collaboration feedback and suggestions are most welcome!


Sophz

x

 

[Lalah]

Well for one there are no cowboys in Canada and people don't go around on horses.

 

[LittleGary]

There are cowboys in Canada. You just have to go to the right part of Canada, and in some places people still do ride horses. I love the concept, would love to work with you on your idea.

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

Well for one there are no cowboys in Canada and people don't go around on horses.

That doesn't even come into it. Thats why they call it a fantasy

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

There are cowboys in Canada. You just have to go to the right part of Canada, and in some places people still do ride horses. I love the concept, would love to work with you on your idea.

Really?

Post your ideas then!

 

[Macdaddy23]

You should get some Southern men in the story.

 

[Lalah]

That doesn't even come into it. Thats why they call it a fantasy

Maybe it's a fantasy, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't stay true to the source material. Writing a story about a Canadian Cowboy make about as much sense as writing one about an English Samurai; you'll just confuse the locals.

My point was that Canada has it's own cliché characters and if you want to write a Canadian story you should write about a Canadian one. Maybe a lumberjack or possibly a mountaineer.

@LittleGary: I'd be curious to know which Canadian mountain range is populated by cowboys. And what do they do over there, raise mountain cattle? There's probably a cowboy somewhere in Japan too; in every large population you'll find a couple of people out of place, but that doesn't change the fact that they are not in their culture. Canadians are not cowboys.

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

Writing a story about a Canadian Cowboy make about as much sense as writing one about an English Samurai; you'll just confuse the locals.

cowboys.

Ok if you read my post PROPERLY i actually state "occasional cowboy".

Yes, this is a term of my own, made up just for me, for my benefit.

"Occasional cowboy".
It is to imply this is an ordinary man with an ordinary 9-5 job, possibly in the city but escapes to the mountains to as some sort of escape from the real world.
Here he creates and lives out his own little cowboy fantasies. waking and rising in the way a cowboy would, washing how a cowboy would.. no razors or fancy shaving gel. Old school.
He then disappears deeper into the mountains where he spends his day hacking, possibly hunting and generally role playing with himself. I'm not sure if that makes sense but it is not really supposed to!

My point is.. i never once implied in my text he was an actual cowboy or even that such thing exists in Canada. I do not have enough knowledge of this country to back up any such statement even if i were implying he were "real". either way that shouldn't even come into it as it is after all a fantasy.
If people can make up their own galaxies/planets and species and can't see why I can't but i understand that my example is too close to reality for some people to swallow.

I was merely taking a favorite fantasy location of mine and a FICTIONAL character and putting the two together.

 

[Lalah]

If that's what you want feel free to make things up about other people's countries, but don't be surprised if your story ends up getting bashed by Canadians who think you haven't done your researches.

You could probably get away with your old school guy if you research what is appropriate seasonal garb for Canadian mountains, as well as hunting/fishing and deforesting laws. You'll also need to know what kind of trees and plants grow in the chosen area. Then you'll have a good start to start building your story around.

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

If that's what you want feel free to make things up about other people's countries, but don't be surprised if your story ends up getting bashed by Canadians who think you haven't done your researches.

You could probably get away with your old school guy if you research what is appropriate seasonal garb for Canadian mountains, as well as hunting/fishing and deforesting laws. You'll also need to know what kind of trees and plants grow in the chosen area. Then you'll have a good start to start building your story around.

That won't be a problem.

For a change I am not writing it for anyone but myself.

I am merely asking for suggestions other people might wanna see in there if they read it.

And btw... "don't be surprised if your story ends up getting bashed by Canadians who think you haven't done your researches" This also will not pose a problem for me as I am quite sure some people actually have a grasp of what the word fictional means.

If you can be offended by fiction you may as well go live in the woods.

Thank you for your views but for that part of things I am very stuck in my ways so there will be no changing my mind!

 

[Lalah]

If you can be offended by fiction you may as well go live in the woods.

I don't know about that... plenty of people seem to get offended at racist and discriminating writing, fiction or not, and I don't see them running away in shame.

Guy approaches his holiday cabin.. or as he likes to call it.. the hideout.

sees a light on through the window.

De mounts his horse, Draws his hunting pistol and enters cautiously......x

There is a problem I just noticed with that part. Handguns are restricted in Canada, you can't go around with one. Getting a restricted licence for one only gives you the right to use it at a shooting range, and even then you need an extra permit to move it, between your home to the range or gun shop.

Also the self defense laws are not the same. Just waiving that gun around can get you to prison, and using it on someone, even in self defense, will get you charged.

For example in one case, a shop owner had a gun pushed against his temple, but managed to struggle with the robber. In the process the gun discharged killing the robber. The shopkeeper nearly got charged with murder, but luckily for him the crown decided to drop the charges, although he probably still got charged for "possession of a prohibited weapon" and/or "careless use of a firearm."

In another case, an American couple were fined money and banned from Canada for five years for having taken pepper spray with them to protect themselves from potential dogs while jogging.

So if I can make a suggestion, I would suggest said gun be a hunting rifle, and that he does not handle it threateningly. The ideal reaction legally would probably be to secure the weapon somewhere.

 

[Bluestreak363]

Hi, Sophz

I think it's a fine idea that can be refined as you go to be made more believable. I have some ideas, and if you don't mind, I'll PM them to you. It'll be easier to discuss privately than amongst the naysayers.

Cheers,

-R

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

So if I can make a suggestion, I would suggest said gun be a hunting rifle, and that he does not handle it threateningly. The ideal reaction legally would probably be to secure the weapon somewhere.

Give up hun

 

[Lee Chambers]

Maybe it's a fantasy, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't stay true to the source material. Writing a story about a Canadian Cowboy make about as much sense as writing one about an English Samurai; you'll just confuse the locals.

I've never read about an English samurai but I have seen a movie about an American samurai and as I seem to recall it was very well received.

 

[Lee Chambers]

Some cowboy ideas:

Your cowboy could be Canadian or he could be American, or another nationality. Maybe he moved to Canada or moved to another part of Canada to escape his dark past.

He has a horse which he rides to his cabin, but maybe he has a truck and a trailer that he parks somewhere else and uses the trailer to transport the horse from point A to point B. Does he take care of the horse all the time or does he leave it in someone else's care, like at a ranch that looks after people's horses?

What kind of person is the cowboy? He's got a history that's troubling him, but does he brood over it, is he angry when he finds the naked woman in his cabin? Does he want her to leave so he can be alone or does he invite her to stay? Is he happy go lucky, friendly, lecherous?

As for the issue of the legality of the gun...well, people break laws and I don't think Canada has machines every five feet that detect the presence of gunpowder. She's an English citizen and so it's quite within the realm of reality to say that she has no clue what the laws are in Canada. Who's to say she didn't slip in illegally herself?

Just some ideas, I think it's a good story concept that can be made better with some fleshing out.

 

[badbabysitter]

I live in Vancouver... a million and a half people..a world exposition, the 2010 Winter Olympics.. we have mounted police ya dumb ass

Calgary Stampede? big ass rodeo every year, maybe you've heard of it.. Alberta is a province filled with cowboys..its like Arizona... with 6 feet of snow every winter

Well for one there are no cowboys in Canada and people don't go around on horses.

 

[Lalah]

As for the issue of the legality of the gun...well, people break laws and I don't think Canada has machines every five feet that detect the presence of gunpowder. She's an English citizen and so it's quite within the realm of reality to say that she has no clue what the laws are in Canada. Who's to say she didn't slip in illegally herself?

Just some ideas, I think it's a good story concept that can be made better with some fleshing out.

Which is my point. All I'm saying is that the author should do some research so that her fantasy could be made in a way that make sense to readers. She want the guy to have that gun? Well just describe him as a little nervous about carrying it. It's his little dirty secret and he know if he was caught with it he'd be in trouble, but he just can't stop himself because it's such a great prop for his fantasy.

And is he cutting those trees to make firewood? Is that legal? How about hunting in that season? If it isn't then it beg the chance to introduce a new villain; the forest ranger guy snooping around. What will he do and who will the woman ends up with?

There you go; research that help character development. Just because we are writing erotica doesn't mean we shouldn't do our research. Maybe porn isn't taken seriously because so little of the people writing it have any writer's integrity? I'm not asking her to scrap her idea, just put some actual work into it. I even did some of the research for her and gave her some tips for subjects to research.

For example it seem important to me to know how cold the nights are going to be. Will they have to end up cuddling for warmth because they ran out of firewood?

I live in Vancouver... a million and a half people..a world exposition, the 2010 Winter Olympics.. we have mounted police ya dumb ass

Calgary Stampede? big ass rodeo every year, maybe you've heard of it.. Alberta is a province filled with cowboys..its like Arizona... with 6 feet of snow every winter

Like I said, in every large center of population there are people of other cultures. And yes there is the mounted police, but I'm not sure going through a forested Canadian mountain on horseback is a good idea. Sounds like a good way to ends up with a lame horse or a broken neck. I'm under the impression the secluded log cabin is in the middle of nowhere. Is there going to be a trail big enough for a horse?

Again this all come down to doing some research to find a plausible justification, which can augment the story. How did he get his horse up there? Does the guy spend every years creating and maintaining horse trails around his cabin, trails that the woman could have gotten lost in before finding the cabin? Could it be how she ended up finding it?

Ack! I'm trying to get people to put some efforts in their story ideas so they ends up more realistic and interesting, I'm such a villain.

Edit:

I've never read about an English samurai but I have seen a movie about an American samurai and as I seem to recall it was very well received.

Just so you know there were plenty of critics complaining about that, but to be honest I liked the movie.

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

Thanks Lee, you gave me some inspiration from what you said.
Muchly appreciated


Just to remind people this isn't actually a debate. it is an IDEA which as we speak is being put into action.

If I am honest LaLah I don't want my story to make sense.

Would a relationship between a Martian and a human make sense in the real world?
Well this may be closer to reality than that but it doesn't mean I have to pump it all with facts.
It is after all a FICTIONAL erotic story which I am writing for myself and anyone else who would care to read it and for this story to play up to my ultimate fantasy a few facts have to be overseen.
That is how I would like to write my story so thanks for your incite but no thanks.

 

[Lee Chambers]

Thanks Lee, you gave me some inspiration from what you said.
Muchly appreciated

Always happy to help.

 

[eurowriter]

First and foremost, it's imagination that counts most!

Wow!

Guess if I tried to tell that old joke about "horse walks into a bar...", I would never get to the punch line because I'd have to answer questions about whether it's legal for a horse to walk into a bar, or why a horse would want to walk into a bar, or >>>>

Geez!

Is erotica all about character development and proper, rational, and legal behavior? I hope not!

Sophz Kandi, I like your idea. It made perfect sense to me and sounds intriguing. Guy on a horse wearing a cowboy hat and boots (if he walked into a bar, wouldn't you call him a "cowboy"?) rides up to his hideout in the snowy woods. He senses the presence of a trespasser, and slips his rifle out of its saddle holster. He quietly walks up to the door, listens, and then opens the door slightly. He catches the faint sound of a splash of water. He realizes the interloper is in the bathroom.

He pushes the heavy door open more, and slips in quietly. He quickly scans the room to assess the damage, and his angst quickly turns to mirth. Aside from no evidence of vandalism, the only clue he finds about the intruder is a trail of clothing across the floor, ending with lacy bra and panties just outside the bathroom door. He jauntily strolls towards the door, and quickly pushes it open. He is greeted by the feminine squeal that he anticipated, but what he was not expecting was such a lovely trespasser. She challenges him with "who are you?", and he shoots back with an equally indignant, "This is my cabin! Who the hell are you?"

After a few more exchanges of words, both interloper and owner find the situation amusing. She decides it's time to climb out of her bubble bath, and asks the handsome stranger to hand her something to put on. He bends downs down and picks up a pair of sandals, and then offers them to her, grinning like a Cheshire Cat.

 

[Sophz_Kandi]

Wow!

Guess if I tried to tell that old joke about "horse walks into a bar...", I would never get to the punch line because I'd have to answer questions about whether it's legal for a horse to walk into a bar, or why a horse would want to walk into a bar, or >>>>

Geez!

Is erotica all about character development and proper, rational, and legal behavior? I hope not!

Sophz Kandi, I like your idea. It made perfect sense to me and sounds intriguing. Guy on a horse wearing a cowboy hat and boots (if he walked into a bar, wouldn't you call him a "cowboy"?) rides up to his hideout in the snowy woods. He senses the presence of a trespasser, and slips his rifle out of its saddle holster. He quietly walks up to the door, listens, and then opens the door slightly. He catches the faint sound of a splash of water. He realizes the interloper is in the bathroom.

He pushes the heavy door open more, and slips in quietly. He quickly scans the room to assess the damage, and his angst quickly turns to mirth. Aside from no evidence of vandalism, the only clue he finds about the intruder is a trail of clothing across the floor, ending with lacy bra and panties just outside the bathroom door. He jauntily strolls towards the door, and quickly pushes it open. He is greeted by the feminine squeal that he anticipated, but what he was not expecting was such a lovely trespasser. She challenges him with "who are you?", and he shoots back with an equally indignant, "This is my cabin! Who the hell are you?"

After a few more exchanges of words, both interloper and owner find the situation amusing. She decides it's time to climb out of her bubble bath, and asks the handsome stranger to hand her something to put on. He bends downs down and picks up a pair of sandals, and then offers them to her, grinning like a Cheshire Cat.

Nail>Hit>On head.
Perfect!


Will you marry me?

 

[In Anticipation]

Well for one there are no cowboys in Canada and people don't go around on horses.

I guess we should be taking some notice of someone who has been a member since 1970. How did it work then? Did you have to submit posts on punch cards? Use a teletype?

If I stick on this thread, I think I'll put lalah on ignore. I'm trying to imagine Bullit remade to take into account traffic laws now (for example).

 

[mark197205]

I guess we should be taking some notice of someone who has been a member since 1970. How did it work then? Did you have to submit posts on punch cards? Use a teletype?

If I stick on this thread, I think I'll put lalah on ignore. I'm trying to imagine Bullit remade to take into account traffic laws now (for example).

*round of applause!*

 

[Lalah]

I hadn't planned on posting in this thread again since I had already given my advices, but this is getting too silly.

Yes, even science-fiction and fantasy stories make sense, because they have a consistent internal logic and they usually respect their source material as much as possible. Good authors know this; they realize it's not a good idea to overwhelm the reader with inconsistencies and unnecessary liberties because it detracts from the story they are trying to tell. Maybe one day you will realize this. I hope so if you plan to keep writing.

You can ignore me if you want; I have never seen any of you before and I will not see you again once you all slink back to GD.

 

[In Anticipation]

I hadn't planned on posting in this thread again since I had already given my advices, but this is getting too silly.

Yes, even science-fiction and fantasy stories make sense, because they are have a consistent internal logic and they usually respect their source material as much as possible. Good authors know this; they realize it's not a good idea to overwhelm the reader with inconsistencies and unnecessary liberties because it detracts from the story they are trying to tell. Maybe one day you will realize this. I hope so if you plan to keep writing.

You can ignore me if you want; I have never seen any of you before and I will not see you again once you all slink back to GD.

I could see what you were getting at, but I think you took it too far, to no sensible effect. Questioning whether the trail would be wide enough for a horse was fairly ridiculous.

Apart from anything else your facts were completely wrong, you hadn't done your research. It took my 15 seconds to find out that there are enough canadian cowboys to support at least one magazine.