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[cermin]

1174 is one ignorant dope. They've killed more of their people than we have.

no, he isnt

he just NEEDS to stick to a narrative......he is evil as are so many on LIT.....but, all the KOOL KIDS hate JEWS

 

[RobDownSouth]

Masterstroke by Netanyahu's government telling Gaza civilians to head south because they're gonna carpet bomb the north end of Gaza.....then dropping a shit-ton of ordnance on refugee camps in the south of Gaza.
Maximize those civilian casualties!

 

[ll74]

The daily - touring the Sharifa hospital but guided by Israelis troops.. Nothing conclusive.

https://pca.st/episode/fdcb51cf-f3a2-4d61-b9e8-c530c23df4f9

So currently Geneva convention laws have been violated by Israelis and independent confirmation not verified. (That last part I was wrong about)

 

[ll74]

I'm talking about all of the innocent Muslims that have been murdered by Isis, Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda, over the years.

And what is your point about this, specifically? Telling me Muslims have killed Muslims means nothing to me here.

 

[ll74]

no, he isnt

he just NEEDS to stick to a narrative......he is evil as are so many on LIT.....but, all the KOOL KIDS hate JEWS

Again, wtf are you talking about? Where have I demonstrated hatred of Jews?

 

[ll74]

Yemeni civil war (2014–present)​

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According to the UN, over 150,000 people have been killed in Yemen, as well as estimates of more than 227,000 dead as a result of an ongoing famine

And? What's your point here?

 

[cermin]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F98wMTAW4AAhJmf?format=jpg&name=360x360

MEET ‘BEARDED FEMALE RABBI’ JESSICA ROSENBERG WHO INTERRUPTED JOE BIDEN MID-MINNEAPOLIS FUNDRAISER​

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/11/...rrupted-joe-biden-mid-minneapolis-fundraiser/

 

[ll74]

^^

Yah, delete your previous irrelevant horseshit...thanks

 

[Rightguide]

And what is your point about this, specifically? Telling me Muslims have killed Muslims means nothing to me here.

The point is much of the Islamic demographic is uncivilized, uneducated, and stuck in the 7th Century.

 

[ll74]

The point is much of the Islamic demographic is uncivilized, uneducated, and stuck in the 7th Century.

And do what specifically is your point about that in the context of this war? C'mon....let's hear it....quit dancing

 

[Rightguide]

And do what specifically is your point about that in the context of this war? C'mon....let's hear it....quit dancing

That a big majority of them support what Hamas did on Oct. 7 and oppose the existence of Israel, So now it's a fight to the death of either radical Islam (Hamas, Hezzbollah in this case) or Israel.

 

[ll74]

That a big majority of them support what Hamas did on Oct. 7 and oppose the existence of Israel, So now it's a fight to the death of either radical Islam (Hamas, Hezzbollah in this case) or Israel.

And again, what specifically does that mean? Should they be killed? Deported? Or should they just have a right to exercise their free speech?

 

[ShandyLeer]

That a big majority of them support what Hamas did on Oct. 7 and oppose the existence of Israel, So now it's a fight to the death of either radical Islam (Hamas, Hezzbollah in this case) or Israel.

I think you know as well as the IDF does that whilst it’s within the Israelis power to inflict an enormous military defeat on Hamas it‘s not possible to defeat the ideology using the same means.

Worse, the ideology thrives on the defeat that feeds it hundreds of new orphans to recruit from and a whole new chapter of victimhood and suffering to recite.

I assume you wouldn’t go down the medieval route and put all the males to the sword, but then you say it’s a fight to the death - so how far are you going with that ?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I assume you wouldn’t go down the medieval route and put all the males to the sword, but then you say it’s a fight to the death - so how far are you going with that ?

Just a friendly word of advice,don't assume rightguide, or as I like to call him, wrongway wouldn't cheer for exactly that... He is self-confessed to live in a reality he created for himself.

You couldn't survive in my chosen reality

 

[SubzeroGirl]

Melissa Barrera from the Scream franchise has been fired for her pro-Palestine posts. Susan Sarandon was let go from her talent agency for her posts. We have forgotten what free speech means in this country. I don’t agree with them, but supporting the people of Palestine doesn’t mean they support the terrorists. There is a difference. This war isn’t bringing out the worst in people, it’s showing how ugly people really are inside.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Melissa Barrera from the Scream franchise has been fired for her pro-Palestine posts. Susan Sarandon was let go from her talent agency for her posts. We have forgotten what free speech means in this country. I don’t agree with them, but supporting the people of Palestine doesn’t mean they support the terrorists. There is a difference. This war isn’t bringing out the worst in people, it’s showing how ugly people really are inside.

The Zionist lobby is very, very powerful. Their favorite tactic is to accuse all critics of "anti-semitism" in the hope that it silences them. The only answer is zero compromise with Zionism and apartheid, and to oppose them utterly. Right now, Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing and potential genocide, while cowardly politicians allow it to happen, or openly support it. As a famous movie character once said, we face a choice between what is right and what is easy.

The current situation is also something pretty new for the Zionist lobby, i.e. mass and increasing opposition to Israel from within the USA. Suppression is their obvious response.

 

[ll74]

The Zionist lobby is very, very powerful. Their favorite tactic is to accuse all critics of "anti-semitism" in the hope that it silences them. The only answer is zero compromise with Zionism and apartheid, and to oppose them utterly. Right now, Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing and potential genocide, while cowardly politicians allow it to happen, or openly support it. As a famous movie character once said, we face a choice between what is right and what is easy.

The current situation is also something pretty new for the Zionist lobby, i.e. mass and increasing opposition to Israel from within the USA. Suppression is their obvious response.

You oppose the Zionist more than you support Palestinian peace.....you would compromise their peace for your opposition and that should tell you something.

And with many here, it's the same....you don't want peace...you want the opposition to suffer.

 

[RandyRebecca]

You oppose the Zionist more than you support Palestinian peace.....you would compromise their peace for your opposition and that should tell you something.

And with many here, it's the same....you don't want peace...you want the opposition to suffer.

I want peace, but I also recognize that the status quo won't bring peace, unless you're thinking in terms of a Holocaust type situation and then "peace" afterwards, and Israel would then move to attack domestic opponents anyway. They wouldn't stop at the Palestinians. The current situation didn't start on October 7, 2023. It's a continuation of decades and decades of Israeli oppression of the Palestinian people.

 

[ll74]

I want peace, but I also recognize that the status quo won't bring peace, unless you're thinking in terms of a Holocaust type situation and then "peace" afterwards, and Israel would then move to attack domestic opponents anyway. They wouldn't stop at the Palestinians. The current situation didn't start on October 7, 2023. It's a continuation of decades and decades of Israeli oppression of the Palestinian people.

The current situation did start on Oct 7. It was an escalation by Hamas.

You don't want peace. You want Israelis to suffer and capitulate to Palestinians. Peace required compromise and you don't want that.

And absolutely Israelis have not done well at moving that direction, but that doesn't mean their needs should be ignored in discussions. (And yes, even as they overstep their response to the current conflict this is still true)

 

[RandyRebecca]

The current situation did start on Oct 7. It was an escalation by Hamas.

It didn't just appear out of nowhere. Gaza has been a ghetto since 2005, the biggest open air prison in the world. I believe Norman Finkelstein likened October 7 to a slave rebellion. Using that analogy, the violence of a slave against a slave owner, and the violence of a slave owner against a slave, are most emphatically not equals. This issue was a key to the Civil War conflict 1861-1865.

You don't want peace.

You don't get to tell me what I want.

You want Israelis to suffer and capitulate to Palestinians. Peace required compromise and you don't want that.

No. Peace is only possible through the end of the Zionist project, apartheid and capitalist sectarianism. Anyone who can't see this is either politically blind or doesn't want peace because they strongly side with the Zionists.

And absolutely Israelis have not done well at moving that direction, but that doesn't mean their needs should be ignored in discussions. (And yes, even as they overstep their response to the current conflict this is still true)

What needs?

 

[ll74]

It didn't just appear out of nowhere. Gaza has been a ghetto since 2005, the biggest open air prison in the world. I believe Norman Finkelstein likened October 7 to a slave rebellion. Using that analogy, the violence of a slave against a slave owner, and the violence of a slave owner against a slave, are most emphatically not equals. This issue was a key to the Civil War conflict 1861-1865.

I never said it did

You don't get to tell me what I want.

You've told everyone what you want

No. Peace is only possible through the end of the Zionist project, apartheid and capitalist sectarianism. Anyone who can't see this is either politically blind or doesn't want peace because they strongly side with the Zionists.

Says who?

What needs?

Excellent question. Probably should look into that.

 

[RandyRebecca]

You've told everyone what you want

Yes, including peace. That doesn't merely mean a return to the pre-October 7 situation, which led to October 7 in the first place.

Says who?

Says me and people who understand politics and the nature of the conflict.

Excellent question. Probably should look into that.

I'm asking you. Israel's leaders have made it clear that they want ethnic cleansing in Gaza. That's their present "need".

 

[ll74]

Yes, including peace.

Without compromise...yes.

Peace for one.

Says me and people who understand politics and the nature of the conflict.

You ignore half of the conflict and espouse understanding politics...lol

There's an entire group of people you leave out of your political expertise.

I'm asking you. Israel's leaders have made it clear that they want ethnic cleansing in Gaza. That's their present "need".

And Hamas has made it clear that they want destruction of Israel. That's their present need.

You, a long with many others, are locked into a single sided war. If this were the invasion of a foreign country, like Ukraine, I'd at least understand, since one party could just stop their attack, but this is much more involved.

 

[RandyRebecca]

And Hamas has made it clear that they want destruction of Israel. That's their present need.

With this quote, you show that you view the violence of the slave against the slave owner, and the violence of the slave owner against the slave, as equals, or the slave's violence as worse. The Confederates in the civil war felt like that.

Also, Netanyahu encouraging Hamas against Fatah, is hardly a secret. He wanted the West Bank and Gaza divided, with Fatah controlling one and Hamas controlling the other.

 

[ll74]

With this quote, you show that you view the violence of the slave against the slave owner, and the violence of the slave owner against the slave, as equals, or the slave's violence as worse. The Confederates in the civil war felt like that.

Hamas has repeated their desire to destroy Israel.

I don't support destruction of anyone but the leadership of Hamas.

Your.comparison shows you support Hamas.

You don't want peace, you want Israel to be destroyed and you hide behind Zionism as your reasoning. Honesty isn't your strong suit.