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[ll74]

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

You already posted that story.
https://forum.literotica.com/threads/israel-hamas-war-thread.1596886/post-97873702

People typically don't forgive others for bombing them when they aren't combatants in the war.

 

[Lazaran]

Man....you gotta love how advanced Hamas is. Building that invisible large and extensive Command and Operation Center under that hospital is pretty damn impressive. Gotta give them dibs where it is due. I mean...it is invisible.

Try to keep up, Dribbs…

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/20/...l-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/20...cctv-video-hostages-al-shifa-hospital-vpx.cnn

The fact that two of the hostages dead bodies were found near the hospital compound further strengthens Israel’s case / claims.

Hope that ^ helps.



Dribbs

 

[Dribble]

Key word for the ignorant..."Near"

Hostage bodies found "near" hospital

I know...those that support murder and hate...will never see it differently.

See that "tunnel" "near" the hospital. For those that may not understand..."near" does not mean "under" or "in" or any other empty words used by murderers

 

[Dribble]

Proof they weren't killed by the indiscriminate bombing by the IDF?

Lol.

 

[Dribble]

Remember that video released by the IDF several weeks ago when that "Hamas" launched missle turned midair and exploded in the air? Remember that? Then it was shown by CNN that video was actually of a missle launched in Lebanon. I provided all the links then to the naysayers.

Where is the large Command and Operations Center under the hospital? The IDF has had full control of that hospital for 4 days. If it existed...it should be easy to find.

But again...Hamas has this new stealth technology allowing them to completely hide a "large, extensive Command and Operations Center".

Anyone ever work in a large building complex? Ever go to the basement? Ever see infrastructure under the basement? Ever look at how infrastructure is connected to common buildings in a compound? You would think...if you control the hospital...you could crawl through that tunnel to another connected tunnel....not just to another building in that compound. Amazingly...that tunnel doesn't do that. Do you know which outside Country built that hospital? Do you know there are blueprints?

People really should educate themselves

 

[Lazaran]

Key word for the ignorant..."Near"

Hostage bodies found "near" hospital

I know...those that support murder and hate...will never see it differently.

See that "tunnel" "near" the hospital. For those that may not understand..."near" does not mean "under" or "in" or any other empty words used by murderers

Sorry Dribbs, you’re lost in your own narrative.

• "The Tunnel" was located under the Hospital.

• The video in the second link shows a hostage being shuffled into the hospital.

• United States intelligence has corroborated Israelii intelligence reports of hospitals in Gaza being used by Hamas as command and control centers.

• Stashes of weapons were found inside the hospital..

I would actually have been surprised if none of the above was true.

*nods*

 

[Dribble]

Sorry Dribbs, you’re lost in your own narrative.

• "The Tunnel" was located under the Hospital.

• The video in the second link shows a hostage being shuffled into the hospital.

• United States intelligence has corroborated Israelii intelligence reports of hospitals in Gaza being used by Hamas as command and control centers.

• Stashes of weapons were found inside the hospital..

I would actually have been surprised if none of the above was true.

*nods*

Proven to be moved. Sorry Laz...you are supporting genocide Not surprising really.

Videos of "hostages"...shuttled by "terrorists"...that always wear masks to hide their identity...except for this case

 

[Dribble]

Here is the "tunnel"

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html

Look at the word "near" in the Title.

Look at the blueprints.

 

[Lazaran]

Remember that video released by the IDF several weeks ago when that "Hamas" launched missle turned midair and exploded in the air? Remember that? Then it was shown by CNN that video was actually of a missle launched in Lebanon. I provided all the links then to the naysayers.

That ^ claim proves Dribbs is Qanon / MAGAt level insane..

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html

Look at the word "near" in the Title.

Look at the blueprints.

From Dribb’s OWN article:

“On Saturday night, we traveled with the IDF into Gaza to see the newly exposed tunnel shaft discovered at the compound of Al-Shifa Hospital, the enclave’s largest medical facility.”

Dribbs is obviously having trouble comprehending that Al-Shifa Hospital is a compound / complex. The tunnel was found “AT THE COMPOUND OF AL-SHIFA HOSPITAL.”

Hope that ^ helps.



Dribble

 

[rainsol]

Remember that video released by the IDF several weeks ago when that "Hamas" launched missle turned midair and exploded in the air? Remember that? Then it was shown by CNN that video was actually of a missle launched in Lebanon. I provided all the links then to the naysayers.

Where is the large Command and Operations Center under the hospital? The IDF has had full control of that hospital for 4 days. If it existed...it should be easy to find.

But again...Hamas has this new stealth technology allowing them to completely hide a "large, extensive Command and Operations Center".

Anyone ever work in a large building complex? Ever go to the basement? Ever see infrastructure under the basement? Ever look at how infrastructure is connected to common buildings in a compound? You would think...if you control the hospital...you could crawl through that tunnel to another connected tunnel....not just to another building in that compound. Amazingly...that tunnel doesn't do that. Do you know which outside Country built that hospital? Do you know there are blueprints?

People really should educate themselves

You have won both the idiot of the year award and an oakleaf for your antisemitic award that you received from adolft hitler back in the day. What a douche! Of course it doesnt look like the war room under the white house Biden and Obama only gave hamas hundred of millions in aide

 

[Dribble]

You have won both the idiot of the year award and an oakleaf for your antisemitic award that you received from adolft hitler back in the day. What a douche! Of course it doesnt look like the war room under the white house Biden and Obama only gave hamas hundred of millions in aide

How about having a room? Where you could lay out a map? Maybe?

Maybe...having some communication of some sort?

 

[Dribble]

Don't you love how the IDF attacked the Indonesian run hospital today? Only murdered 12. I am sure the same invisible tunnels exist there too

 

[Dribble]

When was that hospital built? Answer:1946. Guess who built it. Come on genocide lovers...guess.

Then...guess who revamped it in 1980? Guess. You can do it.

Now...do you think there were blueprints for both construction projects? Or were they fly-by-night built? Just toss things together with no thought?

Now...when it was built...originally...was it done having "tunnels" connecting individual buildings on the complex? Or...was each building built independently from all other buildings on the Compound?

Fun huh?

Now...would a terrorist use a tunnel...that goes no where? Except to the building next door?

Now comes the fun stuff...what were these tunnels used for? According to the IDF? Transporting missiles? Was that one of the things they said? How big are these "missiles". Would they fit coming up that "tunnel"? Wasn't one of the purposes of these tunnels is so the Hamas terrorists could move quickly? Isn't that what was said? So...quickly...means crawling on hands and knees.

See...this is the problem with Americans today. They no longer have the ability to think. They accept what they are told...no thought.

I am not saying tunnels don't exist. But...not where the IDF says they are.

So why would Israel lie? Why would they move arms...and claim they were found in the hospital? Why would they release close caption TV potentially showing "terrorists" shuttling injured captives from OCT 7 and claim that as proof the hospital is being used by Hamas? If I had hostages...I would take them to a hospital for treatment if injured. But I guess others wouldn't.

Who are these "hostages"? How convenient they aren't of a nationality that the press could ask relatives.

Think...if you can

 

[butters]

the footage i watched and listened to showed the shaftm lots of rubble, and the tunnel running off from it with twists and turns. Not a tunnel to crawl through but to stand and walk through. There was a large door not yet opened for fears of it being booby trapped. Unless that door's been opened, and the full depth of the shaft explored to reveal further or no other tunnels, no-one here can say what lies under that hospital.

The size and depth of that shaft (complete with staircase) don't suggest it being merely for maintenance; having said that, it's also not unthinkable for underground tunnels to exist for people to be able to move safely from one place to another during warfare. The fact that the hospital is denying knowledge of the tunnel/s says that they weren't for the general public or built/used with the hospital staff's awareness and therefore their purpose has to be questioned.

 

[LLCox]

Hamas uses human shields so where is a great place to hide, a Hosp. maybe. I don't know. A huge gun battle around the Hosp. Don't you think it's wondrful how those patients were fighting the IDF... lol. You anti IDF people need to get a grip.

 

[Lazaran]

the footage i watched and listened to showed the shaftm lots of rubble, and the tunnel running off from it with twists and turns. Not a tunnel to crawl through but to stand and walk through. There was a large door not yet opened for fears of it being booby trapped. Unless that door's been opened, and the full depth of the shaft explored to reveal further or no other tunnels, no-one here can say what lies under that hospital.

The size and depth of that shaft (complete with staircase) don't suggest it being merely for maintenance; having said that, it's also not unthinkable for underground tunnels to exist for people to be able to move safely from one place to another during warfare. The fact that the hospital is denying knowledge of the tunnel/s says that they weren't for the general public or built/used with the hospital staff's awareness and therefore their purpose has to be questioned.

Fair enough. Though I highly doubt the hospital admin or staff are being candidly honest about their knowledge of Hamas activities or infrastructure at the Al-Shifa compound. - They are likely complicit or terrified. And I have seen enough to conclude that Hamas did have some relationship with the Al-Shifa hospital. - It would be crazy if they didn’t when one stops to thinks about it. - The seriously wounded Hamas animals have to go somewhere for treatment.

*nods*

 

[butters]

Fair enough. Though I highly doubt the hospital admin or staff are being candidly honest about their knowledge of Hamas activities or infrastructure at the Al-Shifa compound. - They are likely complicit or terrified. And I have seen enough to conclude that Hamas did have some relationship with the Al-Shifa hospital. - It would be crazy if they didn’t when one stops to thinks about it. - The seriously wounded Hamas animals have to go somewhere for treatment.

*nods*

i agree. i was going on their statements at face-value but also think at least some of the hospital administration, if not all of the staff, were aware of the tunnels.

i'd love to see how dribs knows what's beyond the door they've not yet opened (unless they now have and i've not seen the footage) and why he keeps on about 'crawling on hands and knees' through tunnels quite large enough to walk through upright. as for blueprints, it's not uncommon for 'secret' tunnels not to appear on the 'official' blueprints.

 

[butters]

Barak, the former Israeli prime minister, said they (the Israelis) actually took part in building the underground bunkers there as a provision for expanding the hospital's capacity if needed... and it was these bunkers that were co-opted for command centers.

so there are bunkers down there, not just crawl spaces; as to whether they were co-opted, i'm sure that's a opportunity hamas wouldn't have passed by and had time to clear before the Israeli forces closed in on the hospital.

 

[Dribble]

And now they...Israel...blew up a UN school that was sheltering displaced refugees filled with women and children. I bet they will say they targeted a Hamas terrorist...or the school was being used as a Hamas Control and Operations center. Cool.

 

[Dribble]

Barak, the former Israeli prime minister, said they (the Israelis) actually took part in building the underground bunkers there as a provision for expanding the hospital's capacity if needed... and it was these bunkers that were co-opted for command centers.

so there are bunkers down there, not just crawl spaces; as to whether they were co-opted, i'm sure that's a opportunity hamas wouldn't have passed by and had time to clear before the Israeli forces closed in on the hospital.

Again...that isn't what the blueprints show. But hey...

Let's assume Hamas was using a tunnel...or a bunker. Is it acceptable to murder 100 people to kill 1 Hamas terrorist? What is that line of acceptable murder for you Butters?

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, and you're wrong.

But I know you like to think otherwise.

I am not wrong.

 

[Rightguide]

ISRAEL

More than a million Palestinians in Gaza are now displaced; why are Arab countries not opening their doors?​

Expert says some Arab countries fear aid to Gazans could help Hamas terrorists​

By Ruth Marks Eglash Fox News
Published November 19, 2023 7:00am EST

JERUSALEM — At a summit of leaders from more than 50 Arab and Muslim states held last weekend in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Israel’s military response in Gaza following Hamas’ Oct. 7 massacre was fiercely condemned.

But what was missing from the gathering’s final statement was any immediate solution for the 2.3 million civilians of the Palestinian enclave, more than half of whom are now internally displaced after nearly six weeks of fighting.

While the final resolution called for an immediate end to "the brutal Israeli aggression on Gaza" and made offers of humanitarian and financial aid to the Palestinians, not one country came forward with a viable solution, even temporarily, for the 1.5 million civilians who, according to the latest U.N. figures, are now internally displaced in the southern section of the Strip.

As the death toll in Gaza rises, thousands of civilians continue to flee the conflict and head southward, where the Israeli military has said it is safer and where truckloads of food, water, and medicine arrive daily via the Rafah Crossing with Egypt. The U.N. estimates 250,000 fled in the past week alone.

More here: https://www.foxnews.com/world/more-...hy-are-arab-countries-not-opening-their-doors

My My it seems no Arab nation, even temporarily, wants to take in Palestinian refugees, their alleged brethren. Why is that?

 

[Chobham]

Again...that isn't what the blueprints show. But hey...

Let's assume Hamas was using a tunnel...or a bunker. Is it acceptable to murder 100 people to kill 1 Hamas terrorist? What is that line of acceptable murder for you Butters?

Absolutely, kill them all and the sooner the better.

 

[Rightguide]

Man....you gotta love how advanced Hamas is. Building that invisible large and extensive Command and Operation Center under that hospital is pretty damn impressive. Gotta give them dibs where it is due. I mean...it is invisible.

Not anymore, there is news video all over the Internet hosted by Israeli military spokesmen guiding the media through that captured headquarters under the hospital. You might not be seeing it on your Democrat media.

Another thing whatever happens in regard to civilians being killed in Gaza, Hamas bears the responsibility under the laws of war. There has never been a war where there hasn't been an overproportion of civilian death.

 

[ll74]

I am not wrong.

Prove it.