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You want Hamas to survive
It's because of 1980s Israel that Hamas exists today. Israel backed Hamas as a sectarian alternative to Fatah and the PLO. Make no mistake, Israel's actions since October 7 have created the freedom fighters in Palestine for the next generation, under whatever banner.
 
Bullshit

If you have information, provide it.

I'm sick of the analysis in this thread.
Well, yes, maps and aerial videos of where the vehicles were and their spacing have been running on the news all day today. The IDF report itself acknowledges the aid workers did everything they needed to do to establish their mission, route, and timing.

What is it you need to jerk your head out of the sand over this?
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68742572

https://aje.io/2tfxrf?update=2819934

Do your own fucking research next time.

The only reason you’re sick of the analysis on this thread is because some of us challenge your own dubious proclamations, and you don’t like the more critical ones which don’t fit your world view.
From your first article
The IDF's investigation concluded that the army unit involved had believed the vehicles they were tracking from the sky had been taken over by Hamas gunmen,
From your second article
The World Central Kitchen (WCK) has said the Israeli army’s investigation is an “important step forward” but called for an independent commission to probe the killings of its staff.

The reason I don't like "analysis" is that most people in this thread immediately jump to conclusions without any information.

All that is evident is that they misidentified their target as an enemy combatant. There is no information that they intended to kill aid workers.

This thread is for information - if you want to do you own research and make your own premature conclusions, do it elsewhere.
 
I dont care!

but why are you screaming now and not about the others
How much are Zionist lobbies paying you? There was around 2.1 million people in Gaza in total from before October 7. About 40,000 are dead (and counting), and 70-80% of the population are in a terrible state, with Israel killing aid workers. That's after 6 months of ethnic cleansing and genocide. It would have been a lot more deaths if there wasn't a massive outrage at what is going on within the mass populations across the world.
 
Well, yes, maps and aerial videos of where the vehicles were and their spacing have been running on the news all day today. The IDF report itself acknowledges the aid workers did everything they needed to do to establish their mission, route, and timing.

What is it you need to jerk your head out of the sand over this?
Did the report say that their military targeted aid workers with intent on killing aid workers?

No.... That's what you believe happened.

Make your own thread about hatred for IDF and circle jerk there about it. Maybe bB will follow suit with his own on Palestinians.
 
From your first article

From your second article


The reason I don't like "analysis" is that most people in this thread immediately jump to conclusions without any information.

All that is evident is that they misidentified their target as an enemy combatant. There is no information that they intended to kill aid workers.

This thread is for information - if you want to do you own research and make your own premature conclusions, do it elsewhere.
You’re a fucking idiot.

I’m out.
 
Did the report say that their military targeted aid workers with intent on killing aid workers?

No.... That's what you believe happened.

Make your own thread about hatred for IDF and circle jerk there about it. Maybe bB will follow suit with his own on Palestinians.
You’re an idiot. They literally admitted it today. It’s not difficult to read the internet.
 
Well, yes, maps and aerial videos of where the vehicles were and their spacing have been running on the news all day today. The IDF report itself acknowledges the aid workers did everything they needed to do to establish their mission, route, and timing.

What is it you need to jerk your head out of the sand over this?
Don’t bother with him - “this thread is for information only” and also apparently condoning obvious human rights violations.
 
Did the report say that their military targeted aid workers with intent on killing aid workers?

No.... That's what you believe happened.

Make your own thread about hatred for IDF and circle jerk there about it. Maybe bB will follow suit with his own on Palestinians.
Would you have said the same about the SS? Silly me, you support Euromaidan Ukraine and its glorification of Waffen SS and UPA types, the sort of people that the Allies (i.e. USA, USSR, UK, China) saw as deadly enemies in WW2.
 
Would you have said the same about the SS? Silly me, you support Euromaidan Ukraine and its glorification of Waffen SS and UPA types, the sort of people that the Allies (i.e. USA, USSR, UK, China) saw as deadly enemies in WW2.
Dumb take.
 
Did the report say that their military targeted aid workers with intent on killing aid workers?

No.... That's what you believe happened.

Make your own thread about hatred for IDF and circle jerk there about it. Maybe bB will follow suit with his own on Palestinians.
It said they targeted those particular vehicles to kill, yes, claiming seeing a couple of rifles, which aerial coverage revealed were food bags being transferred from a warehouse to the vehicles for a TRIP THAT WAS FULLY COORDINATED WITH THE APPROPRIATE IDF AUTHORITIES.

As someone else posted, maybe you should do some actual research yourself rather than challenging the research others have done on this from available news coverage.
 
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The information got worse in the wait. These were three vehicles spaced a kilometer apart from each other and full information on them, their mission, and their route had been given to the IDF. Escaping the bombed lead vehicle, the aid workers surviving that ran back to the second vehicle, only to be blasted dead there. At best, this is sloppy "we don't care enough" tactics. But the Israelis are not really that sloppy. They are arrogant and taking an opportunity.

The more information that was made available, the more fishy and implausible the IDF action became.

The Israelis claim to have drone footage of a Hamas gunman getting into one of the WCK vehicles before it was targeted by a drone strike.

That ^ would be SOME mitigating evidence, if true. It would still be fairly weak justification for the attack, and still constitutes a fuckup / "planned accident" by the IDF, imho.

I want to see that footage.

Anybody have a link???

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Bullshit

If you have information, provide it.

I'm sick of the analysis in this thread.
No one knows what happened. Anti-Israelis conspirators say it was a planned accident. We don't know that. It could have been a case of mistaken identity. It could have been inaccurate ISR data. HAMAS could have purposely switched individuals leading an undercover switch of personnel, misleading the ISR observation vehicle OR VEHICLES. We don't know because we're not on the inside. I doubt we'll ever find out, to do that would uncover sources and methods. IMHO
 
You’re an idiot. They literally admitted it today. It’s not difficult to read the internet.

Israel did NOT "admit" that they intentionally targeted aid workers with the intent of killing those aid workers. Not from anything I have read.

Link?

🤔

And you expect us to believe that nonsense?

"Becky" is having reading comprehension issues.

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No one knows what happened. Anti-Israelis conspirators say it was a planned accident. We don't know that. It could have been a case of mistaken identity. It could have been inaccurate ISR data. HAMAS could have purposely switched individuals leading an undercover switch of personnel, misleading the ISR observation vehicle OR VEHICLES. We don't know because we're not on the inside. I doubt we'll ever find out, to do that would uncover sources and methods. IMHO
What I am saying is that it hasn't even been a week.

So information has been provided... Great. (And those who have made conclusions have said as much)

If people have further information on the event, provide it.

I'll try and just accept that people need to tell everyone about how Israel is genocidal or how Palestinians are animals who deserve it and keep my distaste to myself.
 
"Becky" is having reading comprehension issues.

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An IDF source said to Haaretz "the General Staff know exactly why WCK were bombed – because in the Strip, everyone does whatever they like."

In other words, entire IDF units are targeting civilians with impunity.

The head of the WCK said in an official statement "This is an attack on humanitarian organisations showing up in the most dire of situations, where food is being used as a weapon of war."
 
An IDF source said to Haaretz "the General Staff know exactly why WCK were bombed – because in the Strip, everyone does whatever they like."

In other words, entire IDF units are targeting civilians with impunity.

The head of the WCK said in an official statement "This is an attack on humanitarian organisations showing up in the most dire of situations, where food is being used as a weapon of war."

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None of that addresses "Becky’s" reading comprehension issues.

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I find this ironic coming from that hypocrite Biden; which was quickly swept under the media carpet. He, Biden, was never held to account for his fuck up, trying to use the attack for political reasons, an overzealous reactionary tactical strike seizing an attempt to coverup his total fuckup in Afghanistan.

oh just get the fuck out of this thread, you bring nothing but bias. You wouldn't know a fact if it ass fucked you, then pissed all over your face.
 
??? I posted the relevant details two days ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04...trike-visual-analysis-photos-israel/103662942
and you commented on a quote of my post "The Fog of War is Dense".
Absolutely.... And what I meant was..... You can't make conclusions based on limited information. The relevant information at the time was only a few days' worth.

The comment you're quoting here is my response to Keith.

I appreciate the information sources you provided.
 
Israel did not deliberately target World Kitchen aid workers. Sorry... Just didn't happen.
I never said they did and I know they don’t!

I happen to know that military errors happen. They just do! No matter how well trained your troops are!

I feel bad for the poor souls who were there to feed people just as bad as the doctors in Afghanistans. The US never planned to target a hospital.

In plain terms, Shit Happens!

I am NOT Blaming Israel or the US.

War is hell, that’s why it needs to be avoided.
 
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