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Cleveland: Conservatives, Trump's head ferret, and hundreds of naked women.

Liar said:
Now this is a Grand Ol' Party.


http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a37853/100-naked-women-republican-national-convention/
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Actually it was more of an artistic protest directed AT the Grand Ol' Party.

At 6:53 a.m., Tunick gathers the crowd. "The Republican party has given an excuse to hate. We have daughters and we want them to grow up in a society where they have equal rights for women," he says. "The sun is coming up. Now, when I say three, let's get naked!"
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But you knew that, right?
 
That bites for any airplane flying over with all those mirrors.
 
phrodeau said:
Yep, the Republicans are letting loose. Tch.
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Hogan is right. You do come across as having a major agenda at times. Typically I agree with you. But try keep it current, it only helps your agenda.

Although 6 years is not that long ago. Still same POTUS and US political issues being discussed.
 
Colonel Hogan said:
Actually it was more of an artistic protest directed AT the Grand Ol' Party.



But you knew that, right?
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Oh yeah, I'm aware of Tunick and his work. Just thought it added a bit of je ne sais quoi to the regular freakshow.
 
Sean said:
Considering that Scott Baio has been tweeting about how classy his wife is the last few days, I thought it relevant. I still can't get over the fact that Scott fucking Baio is speaking at the RNC,
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He's a US citizen. What other qualification does he need?
 
Sean said:
Considering that Scott Baio has been tweeting about how classy his wife is the last few days, I thought it relevant. I still can't get over the fact that Scott fucking Baio is speaking at the RNC,
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So, speaking of the "relevant" past, how did you feel about this rousing stemwinder from Scarlett Johansson at the DNC in 2012???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWklJ5VEidM

Liberal hypocrisy would be comedic gold if it weren't so tragically transparent.
 
Colonel Hogan said:
So, speaking of the "relevant" past, how did you feel about this rousing stemwinder from Scarlett Johansson at the DNC in 2012???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWklJ5VEidM

Liberal hypocrisy would be comedic gold if it weren't so tragically transparent.
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See, I think that's bollocks as well. At least she's a proper star, same when the RNC had Clint and his chair. I just don't understand why "celebrities" are there at all. Don't get me wrong, UK parties do it too. We all remember Kenny Everitt and his "let's bomb Russia" speech.
 
Colonel Hogan said:
Liberal hypocrisy would be comedic gold if it weren't so tragically transparent.
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What is with Yanks and their dislike of liberalism? What with their liberal gun laws, liberal free speech and socialist welfare state. You would think they proudly live in a fascist totalitarian state not some country that places individual rights so high on it's agenda and within it's nation building myth.
 
The clown show got interesting. Pretty much an open civil war on the floor.
 
Reports that the Colorado delegation has walked out in protest.
 
Hard_Rom said:
What is with Yanks and their dislike of liberalism? What with their liberal gun laws, liberal free speech and socialist welfare state. You would think they proudly live in a fascist totalitarian state not some country that places individual rights so high on it's agenda and within it's nation building myth.
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Pardon me for my imprecise characterization. Your question deserves a serious response.

For me personally, my reaction is against the irrationality of BOTH liberal and conservative extremes. But I tend to be more right of center than left of center, so I tend to react a little more harshly to the liberal extremists than the conservatives.

As you imply, not only is there nothing wrong with the principle of liberalism per se, it is actually magnanimous in the abstract. What's not to like about liberal free speech, liberal laws relating to property ownership (including guns), and free enterprise? And other than the wide scale abuse of the welfare state, only the truly heartless can object to the underlying principle of assisting the less fortunate. One of the great ironies in this regard is the scope of private charitable giving, a substantial portion of which is underwritten by various religious organizations, not the least of which are evangelical Christians.

So what's my beef with liberalism? At the risk of dealing in generalities, it is the seeming inversion of compassion OVER what seems to me to be a compelling rationality. For example, the rights of a mother superceding the presumptive right of life to an unborn child all the way up to Democrats being nearly three times as likely to oppose the death penalty as Republicans. Is it really more liberal as a matter of morality and philosophical humanity to PRIORITIZE the extension of life to criminals OVER that of a viable fetus at 23 weeks as recognized by the United States Supreme Court in the 1992 case of Planned Parenthood v. Casey which substantially reaffirmed BOTH a woman's right to an abortion AND the state's legitimate interest in protecting viable fetal life prior to birth as originally decided by the Court in Roe v. Wade?

In combating terrorism and with respect to the capture and detention of illegal combatants as defined by the Geneva convention, was it and is it really a fair and rational response to define virtually every physical and mental coercive interrogation technique as being synonymous with torture and to adjudge "lapel grabbing," "wall slamming," and "belly slapping," -- or for that matter even sleep deprivation or water boarding -- as being comparable with the "tactics used by our enemies" who behead victims inch-by-inch with handheld knives, burn people alive in cages or push homosexuals off the roofs of several story buildings?

In the case of gun control, is it true liberalism to attempt to constrain the tragedy of gun violence by disarming everyone, the Constitution and the respect for the rule of law by the overwhelming majority of gun owners be damned?

For starters, these are a few of the strains of liberalism as commonly practiced or advocated which I dislike. For the record, I have similar contempt for various conservative advocacies, especially those which can't (or won't) distinguish between the rights of native born Americans (read Muslims) versus non-Americans residing here as legal immigrants or even those merely attempting to gain entry into the country.

In any event, that is how I would initially respond to your inquiry.
 
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