Classified reports have ‘damning evidence’ of Trump campaign’s coordination with Russ

[sr71plt]

You obviously don't understand how retarded this statement is.

Who the fuck do you think is in charge of the executive branch of the government fuck wit?

And you don't seem to have a clue about how the U.S. government works. There's a permanent bureaucracy that chugs along on its own steady course agenda--affected only in the longer term--regardless of what whoever is in charge demands.

 

[Rightguide]

And you don't seem to have a clue about how the U.S. government works. There's a permanent bureaucracy that chugs along on its own steady course agenda--affected only in the longer term--regardless of what whoever is in charge demands.

All executive power is vested in the President. Art II section 1.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No one on Lit is more uninformed, more ignorant of reality, more jam-packed full of shit, than you are KO. Good Lord, what an ignorant ass.

The president has not even the authority to fire a civil servant; that's the point of the civil-service model.

 

[Rightguide]

The president has not even the authority to fire a civil servant; that's the point of the civil-service model.

He can fire their management and create policy reforms by executive order. All executive power stems from the President's constitutional Executive authority of Art. II Sec.I. Policy comes from the top.

 

[HisArpy]

The president has not even the authority to fire a civil servant; that's the point of the civil-service model.

The President doesn't have to have the power to fire an individual. However, he has the power and authority to shut down an entire department if he wants to. Given the choice between that and the department terminating or transferring an individual, what do you think the department head will choose to do?

 

[KingOrfeo]

He can fire their management and create policy reforms by executive order. All executive power stems from the President's constitutional Executive authority of Art. II Sec.I. Policy comes from the top.

There are such things as independent agencies:

Independent agencies of the United States federal government are those agencies that exist outside of the federal executive departments (those headed by a Cabinet secretary) and the Executive Office of the President.[1] In a more narrow sense, the term may also be used to describe agencies that, while constitutionally part of the executive branch, are independent of presidential control, usually because the president's power to dismiss the agency head or a member is limited.[citation needed]

Established through separate statutes passed by the Congress, each respective statutory grant of authority defines the goals the agency must work towards, as well as what substantive areas, if any, over which it may have the power of rulemaking. These agency rules (or regulations), when in force, have the power of federal law.

 

[HisArpy]

There are such things as independent agencies:

The HEADS of those agencies are nominated by the President. They serve at the pleasure of the President. And can be fired by the President.

Who then nominates a new director/secretary/etc who will do what the President wants. Or else he gets fired too.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The HEADS of those agencies are nominated by the President. They serve at the pleasure of the President. And can be fired by the President.

Who then nominates a new director/secretary/etc who will do what the President wants. Or else he gets fired too.

But the agencies' goals and functions are set by statute; the president can't change them unilaterally.

 

[Rightguide]

But the agencies' goals and functions are set by statute; the president can't change them unilaterally.

Bullshit. The mission statement is set legislatively, but as we saw with Obama he weaponized his agencies to operate outside of their authority with impunity.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Bullshit. The mission statement is set legislatively, but as we saw with Obama he weaponized his agencies to operate outside of their authority with impunity.

Bullshit.

 

[HisArpy]

But the agencies' goals and functions are set by statute; the president can't change them unilaterally.

This is true. However HOW those agencies carry out their mission is up to the President. Their funding is prioritized by the President. HOW MUCH of the proposed fiscal budget is set by the President.

So when the President speaks and says "do it this way" do you REALLY think they tell him to fuck off?

 

[RichardBentwood]

You Trump haters are set for a bigly disappointment. Even Alan Dershowitz says there is nothing.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

But the agencies' goals and functions are set by statute; the president can't change them unilaterally.

Let us know when the Federal Maritime Commission or the Surface Transportation Board takes over the foreign policy agenda.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You Trump haters are set for a bigly disappointment. Even Alan Dershowitz says there is nothing.

Cite? Serious question, I care about what Dershowitz has to say.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Let us know when the Federal Maritime Commission or the Surface Transportation Board takes over the foreign policy agenda.

Truly epic fail. I expected and had a right to expect much better from you, Colonel, than that irrelevant and dissmissible nonsense.

 

[renard_ruse]

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH COORDINATING WITH RUSSIA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Of course Trump didn't coordinate with them, but even if he or any other politician or party did, ITS NOT ILLEGAL OR WRONG ANYWAY.

Why am I the only one who seems to want to point this out? This is an investigation about nothing.

 

[renard_ruse]

RUSSIA IS NOT OUR "ENEMY."

That's why I really think the main reason for this Russia hoax thing is more to prevent an effort's to improve or normalize relations with Russia as much as it is to destroy President Trump.

Clearly no real law would have been broken in the first place even if he did work with them and of course there's been zero actual evidence of it anyway.

They could have settled on 1,000 different imaginary pseudo-scandals to make up about Trump but these chose this Russia hoax thing which isn't illegal in the first place. Why? It has to be a "two-fer" to promote anti-Russia-ism.

 

[renard_ruse]

Perhaps they can "get" our President via some procedural technical violation DURING this which-hunt (so-called "investigation") but obviously the underlyling accusation isn't illegal in the first place.

So you have to ask what real motive could the establishment/media have for pursuing this when they could have made up any fake "scandal" about anything.

It has to be about the establishment's anti-Russia paranoia as much as about Trump.

 

[KingOrfeo]

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH COORDINATING WITH RUSSIA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Of course there is. Russia is America's enemy far more than Al Qaeda or ISIS or Iran or even North Korea. Russia is Russia, and rejecting Communism has not made it very much better so far.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Truly epic fail. I expected and had a right to expect much better from you, Colonel, than that irrelevant and dissmissible nonsense.

The only "epic" fail is your submission of the handful of independent agencies statutorily charged with exceedingly narrow functionality as a substantial limitation of the President's authority and influence over domestic policy, especially now that the Republicans control both houses of Congress.

Yeah, the President may have his hands full with healthcare and tax reform, but do you really think he would have any trouble exerting his will over the NRC or the PRC through Congress if he wanted to?

You had to reach for such a silly example to support a stupid contention in the first place.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Yeah, the President may have his hands full with healthcare and tax reform, but do you really think he would have any trouble exerting his will over the NRC or the PRC through Congress if he wanted to?

Yes, he would, even with a Pub-majority Congress. It really is that complicated, but Trump lacks the mental capacity to understand anything complicated.

 

[HisArpy]

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH COORDINATING WITH RUSSIA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Of course Trump didn't coordinate with them, but even if he or any other politician or party did, ITS NOT ILLEGAL OR WRONG ANYWAY.

Why am I the only one who seems to want to point this out? This is an investigation about nothing.

You're not the only one pointing this out.

Unfortunately the moderately mentally challenged have problems comprehending words with more than 1 syllable so they disregard them.

 

[KingOrfeo]

RUSSIA IS NOT[politicvalB] OUR "ENEMY."

Well, it definitely ain't our friend, not in any respect, including the fight against Islamist extremism -- Russia would change sides in that fight in a heartbeat if changing sides offered Russia even the slightest geopolitical advantage.

 

[magicalmoments]

You Trump haters are set for a bigly disappointment. Even Alan Dershowitz says there is nothing.

There is clearly something. Flynn is pleading the 5th, a clear sign of guilt according to Trump.

 

[HisArpy]

Well, it definitely ain't our friend, not in any respect, including the fight against Islamist extremism -- Russia would change sides in that fight in a heartbeat if changing sides offered Russia even the slightest geopolitical advantage.

The middle east crisis has lots of intriguing details regarding who is fighting with whom and who their allies are.

Our allies are our friends in one theater and enemies in another. Russia has the same problems. Some of their allies in Syria are terrorists back home. The only distinction is which border they hide behind.