City and Country Dwellers - Sub-Specie of a Race?

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Here is a thought for consideration generated by a charactor I'm developing.

There is a marked division between city dweller and country dweller, each developing into a sub-specie of the race, with different life rhythms, expectations and outlook. City dwellers will never be truely happy living in the country and vice-versa.

The extract below sets out my / my characters arguement.

Long ago, he decided against convention that a town was of a size where its edge is visible. Not necessarily visible from a single place, almost any tall building might permit that vantage, but from natural geographic layout. It was an arbitrary, almost perverse definition with the potential for manipulation at will - that being in part the attraction. Simon was uncomfortable with the English definition of ‘a City by Royal Charter’ or because a Cathedral happened to have been constructed centuries before. In his eyes English cities such as Winchester and St Albans, renowned for their Cathedrals and thereby ‘cities’ by construct, were little more than towns, it is within their scale and setting to accord to natures rhythms and cycles. Simon believed cities had to have a scale that modified their environment and the people that chose to live in cities were almost a different species of human; such city dwellers had forgone contact with nature and lost the sense of the seasons. This did not make them any worse or any better, just different. Not for them the joy and spontaneity of finding the first wild raspberry or late season mushrooms; to his mind, cities suppressed nature’s cycle yet pretended to be the very centre of the universe importing a camouflage of sensation and experience in a pastiche of nature.

By Simon’s definition, Bergen, the second most populous urban area in Norway, was no more than a town. He argued that if you can see the surrounding countryside then it is to be in the presence of life’s natural rhythms. Hillsides speckled with the flush of spring leaves and the brightness of the light reflected from the ocean that illuminated the western sky, made plain the boundaries. Even to the blind, the scent of the sun on the pine trees and the sounds and smells of the ocean marked the town’s compliance with nature.
 
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This is beautiful... delightful language... and I agree... I love this concept:

to his mind, cities suppressed nature’s cycle yet pretended to be the very centre of the universe importing a camouflage of sensation and experience in a pastiche of nature.

indeed! the very center of the universe... for me, a city is like an ego... it believes it is the center of everything, the all-important hub, and yet it is really just a piece of a much grander whole...

thank you for sharing this...

and I can't help but add... I think this should be "any WORSE?"


This did not make them any worst or any better, just different.
 
Lovely piece of writing :)

I'm not in one camp or the other, I don't think. I'm in the middle. I like to be in the suburbs where I know i can get to the countryside in a matter of minutes but I like to be close to a town and fairly close to a city too. I know I couldn't live in either a city or in the wilds of the countryside.
 
Don't know if they represent subspecies, but the outlook, especially in perception of time, is markedly different.

As you noted, country people are much more in tune with the rhythm of nature. City people tend to make their own time.

The biggest problem is mutual incomprehension of each other. Which, as humans are wont to do, leads too often to mutual dislike.

It's a very noticeable factor in Canadian politics. Even more so in the U.S. Can't speak for Europe, don't know enough.
 
neonlyte said:
Here is a thought for consideration generated by a charactor I'm developing.

There is a marked division between city dweller and country dweller, each developing into a sub-specie of the race, with different life rhythms, expectations and outlook. City dwellers will never be truely happy living in the country and vice-versa.

My opinion on this in a bit.

I love this:

Even to the blind, the scent of the sun on the pine trees and the sounds and smells of the ocean marked the town’s compliance with nature.

What lovely imagery!

I was raised in the second largest city in the country: Los Angeles. I'm quite at home in a city. That said, I've lived in the country (population is the smallest per square acre in the state) for quite awhile now, and while I'm at home in cities, I feel a marked difference between the two.

Here, I regularly leave my keys in the car overnight, my front door is never locked, and I send my 5-year-old out in the yard to play without me going out there to watch over him.

I wouldn't dream of doing those things in a city. When I'm there, it seems that I go into hyper-vigilance mode. It's not a tenseness, but more of a falling into old habits. I always check to see if the doors are locked, car and house, and am VERY aware of what's going on around me.

Not so sure that "subspecies" is quite the right term, as some of us go back and forth with ease. ;)
 
I, like CLoudy, was raised in Los Angeles. I've lived in many large cities- Paris, Tokyo, Chicago, Atlanta, Philedelphia, New York.

I've lived outside of Taos NM. and outside of Roseville CA., both of which are mighty empty places. I've never had a problem with living in isolated country...

My problem is small towns. I've lived in Aurora, IL., and West Chester, PA. In both of those places, I found, by and large, a horrible combination of small-mindedness, rigidity, and mistrust- different in quality from easy-goingness of real country folk, and the sophisticated laissez-faire of the city. I was very uncomfortable in both of those places!
 
And since this is an erotic story site , and perhaps this is motivating a story about a smaller town, let me share an insight I had once when visiting cousins in a small (2000) town.

If a girl in her first couple years of sexual exploration had sex with say 10 guys and assuming they are near to her in age, and live in the same city/town...

In a city, it is likely the 10 guys will not know one another.

In a small town, it is they likely they would know one another. And it is likely that if her best friend had also slept with 10 guys, their 10 would overlap by several guys. If she fell in love, it is a strong possibility her lover would be a former lover of at least one of her friends.

That has to make for an interesting dynamic.
 
SelenaKittyn said:
This is beautiful... delightful language... and I agree... I love this concept:

Thank you!

indeed! the very center of the universe... for me, a city is like an ego... it believes it is the center of everything, the all-important hub, and yet it is really just a piece of a much grander whole...

I get this feeling whenever I go back to London, it's like an old actor, has all the props, the stage sets, and yet...

and I can't help but add... I think this should be "any WORSE?"

:eek: corrected
 
cloudy said:
What lovely imagery!

Thanks Cloudy :kiss:

I was raised in the second largest city in the country: Los Angeles. I'm quite at home in a city. That said, I've lived in the country (population is the smallest per square acre in the state) for quite awhile now, and while I'm at home in cities, I feel a marked difference between the two.

Here, I regularly leave my keys in the car overnight, my front door is never locked, and I send my 5-year-old out in the yard to play without me going out there to watch over him.

I wouldn't dream of doing those things in a city. When I'm there, it seems that I go into hyper-vigilance mode. It's not a tenseness, but more of a falling into old habits. I always check to see if the doors are locked, car and house, and am VERY aware of what's going on around me.

Not so sure that "subspecies" is quite the right term, as some of us go back and forth with ease. ;)

I know EXACTLY what you mean, and I just felt this for a long time. It makes you feel very different, not only toward others but in yourself. I share two capitals, London and Lisbon, and live on the outskirts of each, a trip into either requires me to change my character, I'm aware of different risks and different behaviours.
 
rgraham666 said:
Don't know if they represent subspecies, but the outlook, especially in perception of time, is markedly different.

As you noted, country people are much more in tune with the rhythm of nature. City people tend to make their own time.

The biggest problem is mutual incomprehension of each other. Which, as humans are wont to do, leads too often to mutual dislike.

It's a very noticeable factor in Canadian politics. Even more so in the U.S. Can't speak for Europe, don't know enough.

I can imagine that in Canada, we're to small (both uk and Portugal) to achieve the spacial divide you experience, but it still exists. Even in Portugal I know people who've never visited Lisbon and have no desire to do so, and atrip to the nearest big city is a once a year event.
 
English Lady said:
Lovely piece of writing :)

Many thank's EL
I'm not in one camp or the other, I don't think. I'm in the middle. I like to be in the suburbs where I know i can get to the countryside in a matter of minutes but I like to be close to a town and fairly close to a city too. I know I couldn't live in either a city or in the wilds of the countryside.

You are a bit like us, we like the fringe of the city, though we are contemplating moving to a small village (health permitting).
 
I share two capitals, London and Lisbon, and live on the outskirts of each, a trip into either requires me to change my character, I'm aware of different risks and different behaviours.


I have no idea why... but this is hot! <grin>

must be my European-sophistication-lust acting up again.... :)
 
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