circumcision

[butters]

https://circumcision.org/infant-responses-to-circumcision/

 

[longboy2022]

words often sound muffled when you got a cock in your mouth

words often sound muffled when you got a cock in your mouth

Ha ha. Sucking a guys cock I resisted running my tongue round between tip and foreskin. Should I try it?

 

[stickygirl]

https://circumcision.org/infant-responses-to-circumcision/

JFC that's far worse than I imagined. I cried reading that - fucking horrific
Why do they continue with this barbaric and unnecessary ritual? Let grown up men decide if they'd like it done to themselves and stop imagining, lying to yourself, that your child is 'too young to understand what pain is' ffs

 

[butters]

JFC that's far worse than I imagined. I cried reading that - fucking horrific
Why do they continue with this barbaric and unnecessary ritual? Let grown up men decide if they'd like it done to themselves and stop imagining, lying to yourself, that your child is 'too young to understand what pain is' ffs

lidocain can be used to numb the area pre-cut, but the most efficient way to get it into the body is by injection directly into the penis. Grown men will be shriveling just reading that. The idea of needles being stuck into their dicks? puhleese.

i suppose most have it done simply because it's 'normal' for their cultural upbringing. i honestly think it barbaric unless done under anaesthetic and for medical reasons

 

[stickygirl]

lidocain can be used to numb the area pre-cut, but the most efficient way to get it into the body is by injection directly into the penis. Grown men will be shriveling just reading that. The idea of needles being stuck into their dicks? puhleese.

i suppose most have it done simply because it's 'normal' for their cultural upbringing. i honestly think it barbaric unless done under anaesthetic and for medical reasons

Burning witches used to be normal

 

[dicknjane]

i'm glad you brought that up... of course, all cut-as-babies males wouldn't know the difference since cut is their norm. i guess it's pretty hard for people in general to differentiate. seems to me reasonable to expect that nature put it there for a reason and if you cut through nerves there's most likely a decrease in sensitivity.

i brought it up just to look at this whole issue through different lenses of opinion, especially given the rightful distaste/anger/sorrow now shown towards female genital mutilations. sure, a circumcision is less extreme and, psychologically, hasn't been shown to harm babies, but i just find it hard to come to terms with inflicting pain on an infant for purely adult aesthetic values.

Take your argument to the trans community.

 

[bill4672a]

I grew up in the U.S.A. in a state where all boys entering jr. high had to be circumcised. I was not circumcised at birth due to complications, so, when I was 12, I was circumcised after the school nurse examined me and discovered I was uncut. The only positive aspect of it was that it would have been embarrassing showering in 7th grade, the only "Gentile" among all of those "Jews."

 

[stickygirl]

I grew up in the U.S.A. in a state where all boys entering jr. high had to be circumcised. I was not circumcised at birth due to complications, so, when I was 12, I was circumcised after the school nurse examined me and discovered I was uncut. The only positive aspect of it was that it would have been embarrassing showering in 7th grade, the only "Gentile" among all of those "Jews."

"Had" to be? Was this a jewish school or a Jewish state. Didn't know the US had them

 

[longboy2022]

"Had" to be? Was this a jewish school or a Jewish state. Didn't know the US had them

Apparently 70 to 80% of males are circumcised, so it's not religious. I find girls would rather suck off cut pricks

 

[longboy2022]

American males

 

[stickygirl]

Apparently 70 to 80% of males are circumcised, so it's not religious. I find girls would rather suck off cut pricks

So they didn't have to be

 

[FataMorgana]

In the words of Phil Collins...no jacket required.

 

[longboy2022]

So they didn't have to be

Society pressure. As earlier post said, he didn't want to be the only uncut prick in the shower.

 

[stickygirl]

Society pressure. As earlier post said, he didn't want to be the only uncut prick in the shower.

How much time do boys spend looking at each other's dicks? From my school days, anyone caught sneaking a glance or making a comment would've been railroaded for being 'gay'.

 

[gregor2001us]

How much time do boys spend looking at each other's dicks? From my school days, anyone caught sneaking a glance or making a comment would've been railroaded for being 'gay'.

The argument that boys will be traumatized by having an intact penis is bogus and fear mongering at best. The doctor tried that argument on me when we were getting ready for our first son to be born. I was circumcised, and that was not the reason I was outside the in crowd. When my sones were in school, they were made fun of, for many reasons other than being intact. In fact, by the time they were in school, no one was getting undressed or taking showers for gym anyway. Just fear mongering to persuade vulnerable parents.

The other silly argument the OBGYN tried, at the birth of my first sone, was that my son would be traumatized by looking different than me. All you have to do is think for about 2 seconds, to realize how bogus that one is. I am 6 foot tall, wear glasses, have a bald head, and a bushy, hairy body. If his being uncut would be traumatic, how about those other factors? Not to mention, what if I happened to be an amputee? Would the doctor suggest cutting off his leg (or whatever) so that my son would be saved from trauma? Didn't think so. Again, fear mongering at best.

 

[stickygirl]

The last thing young men will mock another for is their dick - it's just waay off the accepted range of cruel taunts to use.

 

[bill4672a]

"Had" to be? Was this a jewish school or a Jewish state. Didn't know the US had them

Had to be - It was required by law at that time for all males in public schools (This was a public school). I do not know the rationale.

 

[Traumseele]

The last thing young men will mock another for is their dick - it's just waay off the accepted range of cruel taunts to use.

I think you may be underestimating the cruelty of young men here. Nothing is off limits in my experience!

Having said that, protecting boys from being bullied for having a "different" penis is a very poor argument that hardly justifies mutilating a baby. If you want to circumcise yourself as an adult, or need to have the procedure done for medical reasons, that is a totally different thing...

 

[longboy2022]

How much time do boys spend looking at each other's dicks? From my school days, anyone caught sneaking a glance or making a comment would've been railroaded for being 'gay'.

Can't say now in America. But boys wank off together, in my time a lot. And in my time in the UK showers after rugby, a muddy game were communal so a lot of naked boys together. I was well advanced had balls and public hair well ahead of the rest, that was remarked on.

 

[butters]

 

[mark_j]

Let's be practical for a minute.

For those of us who had it done as babies, we don't know any different.

Further, going on about how your parents made this decision for you and how you are somehow missing out on something is pointless. Mine has served me well for 45 odd years and if there is something i'm missing out on, so be it. I'm not going to lament over something that I never knew I had, nor am I going to blame my parents for their decision. Whether it was religious, conformity or whatever, it is what it is.

For those of you who were left intact, more power to you.

You get to experience life with this equipment from a different perspective. At the same time you'll never know anything different from your current state unless you choose to and I can't imagine why, other than a medical or physical issue, you would even consider that choice.

For those who did make that choice, depending on the issue, you might know the actual difference.

However, the question is a little different. Was the reason you had this procedure a choice between a continued issue, or a return to a relatively normal state of function. If so, I would imagine it would be worth it. If not, I hope you can live and be well., but I will never know your perspective either.

As far as anything else. the argument is rather pointless. If you don't believe it is necessary, then don't do it to your sons. It's that damn simple. I never had to make that choice since I never had a son.

For those that do make that decision one way or the other, how dare you sit in judgement of someone whose choice was different for their sons? Agree or disagree on the merit of the procedure if you like.

Otherwise, it's none of your damn business.

 

[Lucy_Lastic]

I'm sure they used to say the same about FGM.

 

[HoneyBrunette]

I've never been with a guy who wasn't circumcised.

I've never been with a guy who was... even when working as a whore. It certainly seems to be an American trend.

 

[gregor2001us]

Let's be practical for a minute.

For those of us who had it done as babies, we don't know any different.

Further, going on about how your parents made this decision for you and how you are somehow missing out on something is pointless. Mine has served me well for 45 odd years and if there is something i'm missing out on, so be it. I'm not going to lament over something that I never knew I had, nor am I going to blame my parents for their decision. Whether it was religious, conformity or whatever, it is what it is.

For those of you who were left intact, more power to you.

You get to experience life with this equipment from a different perspective. At the same time you'll never know anything different from your current state unless you choose to and I can't imagine why, other than a medical or physical issue, you would even consider that choice.

For those who did make that choice, depending on the issue, you might know the actual difference.

However, the question is a little different. Was the reason you had this procedure a choice between a continued issue, or a return to a relatively normal state of function. If so, I would imagine it would be worth it. If not, I hope you can live and be well., but I will never know your perspective either.

As far as anything else. the argument is rather pointless. If you don't believe it is necessary, then don't do it to your sons. It's that damn simple. I never had to make that choice since I never had a son.

For those that do make that decision one way or the other, how dare you sit in judgement of someone whose choice was different for their sons? Agree or disagree on the merit of the procedure if you like.

Otherwise, it's none of your damn business.

Actually, there is another category of men you may not know about. these are men who were circumcised at birth, but chose to restore their foreskins later in life. I am in that category, restoring in my late 40s. While I may never know what sex was like with my original equipment, I do now know what sex is like with restored equipment, and I can say that it is clearly a whole lot better, both for me and my wife. happy to share details if someone wants to hear about it, but suffice to say that there is good consensus within this group of men that they are very glad they restored. And, while one can choose to dismiss this as anecdotal data, given the consensus, it is worth considering.

 

[butters]

Actually, there is another category of men you may not know about. these are men who were circumcised at birth, but chose to restore their foreskins later in life. I am in that category, restoring in my late 40s. While I may never know what sex was like with my original equipment, I do now know what sex is like with restored equipment, and I can say that it is clearly a whole lot better, both for me and my wife. happy to share details if someone wants to hear about it, but suffice to say that there is good consensus within this group of men that they are very glad they restored. And, while one can choose to dismiss this as anecdotal data, given the consensus, it is worth considering.

i didn't know that was a thing. live and learn!