circumcision...ugh

[Freya]

So in other words you admit it's speculation either way? Thanks for that too.

No, I admit that the data on both sides of the issue is convincing depending on how you want to read it. And that putting aside said data, the decision will then be made due to personal preferences.

There's pretty much no speculation there at all.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

Medically you can go either way - the data I've seen seems to lean more in favour of it, but it's all in how you read it. So that leaves it up to reasons due to personal choice - ie: differences between dad and son, differences between son and other boys, future female partners personal tastes, etc etc.

i'd like to see a study on the pornography sales featuring circumcised men vs uncircumcised men

i'd also like to see a study on the ratio of circumcised to uncircumcised men used in pornography

i wonder if anyone has done those kinds of studies

 

[TumbledLove]

I think that if a woman is disgusted by a natural part of the male sex organ, then, yes, that says something about the way they were raised. either that, or they aren't entirely attracted to men.

 

[John Doe]

How am I contradicting anything? Do you not have family docs in whatever backwoods town you come from?

I'm in the Puget Sound area. We have specialists coming out the ying-yang here (and if necessary, going up it).

But that's not the point. In one breath you said "most" vaccines are given to children, then in the next you said that non-pediatricians administer vaccines "all the time." So you're either eaxggeration in one or both instances, or you're just plain contradicting yourself.

Besides, what do you care what I think? I'm a man, I'm not suppoosed to have a say in the matter. Be seen and not heard and all that. And more specifically, apparently I don't know what I'm talking about. Isn't that what you said?

 

[Weevil]

yeah, the words were (obviously) baited in your favor. that's alright, we're all predictable in some way. For instance, I'm a complete nutjob obsessed about missing an itty-bitty piece of skin.

No kidding. I've heard of a guy being obsessed with his cock before, but seriously.

And I'm just playing the odds. My son is far more likely to get with Canadian girls so it's best that he's got what they want. A cut dick and plenty of beer money.

 

[TumbledLove]

And I'm just playing the odds. My son is far more likely to get with Canadian girls so it's best that he's got what they want. A cut dick and plenty of beer money.

that's odd.. in the other thread, Xelebes says the opposite about Canadian girls:

From what I hear, girls run away from circumcised cocks. I'm really confused with this whole thing.

 

[John Doe]

i'd like to see a study on the pornography sales featuring circumcised men vs uncircumcised men

i'd also like to see a study on the ratio of circumcised to uncircumcised men used in pornography

i wonder if anyone has done those kinds of studies

I would imagine there are a few. You'd be surprised the sort of studies that are conducted all over the world sometimes.

But why is it important? Do you believe that it's an indiaction of which is more commonly desirable among women? By that reasoning all men go for skinny bolndes with big tits, which I think you would agree, isn't accurate.

 

[John Doe]

I think that if a woman is disgusted by a natural part of the male sex organ, then, yes, that says something about the way they were raised. either that, or they aren't entirely attracted to men.

Are you for real?

A person can't help but have thier perceptions affected by how they were raised, and for that matter what they are accustomed to. But I don't see how sexual orientiation has to do with it.

 

[Freya]

I think that if a woman is disgusted by a natural part of the male sex organ, then, yes, that says something about the way they were raised. either that, or they aren't entirely attracted to men.

Yes, yes you've caught me. It's not that I dislike a wobbly, loose, weird feeling piece of skin in my mouth, it's that I dislike cocks altogether. Excuse me while I go ditch my boyfriend and find myself a hot lesbian chick to fuck.



Stup, let me try to explain this to you. Pediatricians are not the only ones who should know about which drugs they are prescribing to people, being as they are not the only ones prescribing said drugs. Family doctors (at least in Canada) do as much, if not more, of the actual vaccinations of children, so therefore they (not being pediatricians) should also know what a vaccine contains. Do you see? Or should I try and word it in one syllable words for you?

 

[TumbledLove]

I guess it goes to show that you can't group everyone together. Only certain, judgemental women have hangups with foreskins.

 

[Weevil]

that's odd.. in the other thread, Xelebes says the opposite about Canadian girls:

She says they like buying their own drinks? What part of Canada is she going to?

 

[Freya]

Are you for real?

A person can't help but have thier perceptions affected by how they were raised, and for that matter what they are accustomed to. But I don't see how sexual orientiation has to do with it.

Thank you. We agree.

 

[Freya]

I guess it goes to show that you can't group everyone together. Only certain, judgemental women have hangups with foreskins.

And only certain pathetic men have hangups over a missing piece of skin.

 

[Weevil]

Excuse me while I go ditch my boyfriend and find myself a hot lesbian chick to fuck.

I know you're just being sarcastic but hot damn, woman.

 

[John Doe]

No, I admit that the data on both sides of the issue is convincing depending on how you want to read it. And that putting aside said data, the decision will then be made due to personal preferences.

There's pretty much no speculation there at all.

So...no, then yes, but no?

When you put aside data that leaves only speculation. Either that or choosing at random.

And when you consider how females might later react to his penis or how the difference between him and his father might cause problems, that is speculation. It has to be. There's no way we can predict future events with any certainty when even the present cannot be described precisely.

 

[John Doe]

that's odd.. in the other thread, Xelebes says the opposite about Canadian girls:

Okay, he should have the kid cut on one said and not on the other. Everyone's happy!

 

[TumbledLove]

Are you for real?

A person can't help but have thier perceptions affected by how they were raised, and for that matter what they are accustomed to. But I don't see how sexual orientiation has to do with it.

me either. I was merely saying.. it's one or the other. What else would explain the irrational distaste of foreskin? maybe they were traumatized by a guy that had some extra cheese because he didn't know how to clean himself, because him mother was too busy to raise him?

 

[John Doe]

Thank you. We agree.

*vomits slightly in my mouth* Kidding!

Anyway, does this mean you won't be fucking a hot lesbian chick?

If you'll reconsider I even have some suggestions. Etoile would be a good starter lesbian.

 

[TumbledLove]

And only certain pathetic men have hangups over a missing piece of skin.

and only certain douchebags bitches say that.

 

[TumbledLove]

Okay, he should have the kid cut on one said and not on the other. Everyone's happy!

Amusing!

actually, if he's lucky enough, he'll get cut weird, and it'll look nice and deformed, just how his future gf/wife likes.

 

[Freya]

So...no, then yes, but no?

When you put aside data that leaves only speculation. Either that or choosing at random.

And when you consider how females might later react to his penis or how the difference between him and his father might cause problems, that is speculation. It has to be. There's no way we can predict future events with any certainty when even the present cannot be described precisely.

Sure Stup. In the sense that every single opinion we have on anything is speculation, then I guess the choice to snip your baby is also that.


TumbledLove, you're really reaching now. And falling flat on your face in the process.


Weevs, I'll take pics for you, k?

 

[John Doe]

I know you're just being sarcastic but hot damn, woman.

Indeed. Moreover, hot DIGGITY damn. *nods*

I don't know why I said that.

 

[TumbledLove]

or better yet, the doctor will make a mistake, and the boy will have to be turned into a girl. Then he can live the male fantasy of girl-on-girl action.

 

[John Doe]

me either. I was merely saying.. it's one or the other. What else would explain the irrational distaste

*snicker*

of foreskin? maybe they were traumatized by a guy that had some extra cheese because he didn't know how to clean himself, because him mother was too busy to raise him?

Why do you say it's irrational? It certainly doesn't take a trauma for someone to form a preference for or against something. I for example will not eat liver or salmon becasue I don't like the way they smell when they're cooking. I've never even tasted them. But I wasn't traumatized by these odors. I merely disliked them.

 

[Freya]

*vomits slightly in my mouth* Kidding!

I seem to be good at making people do that.


And no, no lesbians. As repulsed as I am by foreskin, double that for the thought of having my mouth on a girl's pussy.