Child bride

[butters]

goat-ropers? that's a new expression to my ears and eyes

 

[RobDownSouth]

goat-ropers? that's a new expression to my ears and eyes

You have led a sheltered existence, my darling.
Next you're going to tell me that Harry has never once used "sugartits" as a term of endearment...

 

[FGB]

You were 2 hrs away from Gilley's, big guy. You could have had an entire platoon of little goat-ropers had you just put out a bit of effort. Were you firin' blanks?

Been to Gilley's out drank my Friends...out rode them on the bull too.

Was invited to help out in a three way but her Boyfriend was freaking out.

If he couldn't ride her any better then he did the Mechanical Bull I can well understand the invite!

Never tried to rope a Goat ..I hear they are tough.

Somewhere around ninety females and no offspring ...not that I was trying!

I will ask God some day.

 

[Wings]

I recognize that many parents are horrible and make bad decisions. But looking at how messed up the whole world is proves that rulers make bad decisions all the time too.

My point was about laws being reviewed in the USA. Both the elite ruling class and the stupid little people that they control make bad choices. But why is there an assumption that somehow the elite ruling class will make a better choice regarding a person they don't know at all?

The fact that there are low quality parents doesn't mean that most parents are fools and need personal matters in their family life regulated by some air-head politician. It would be easy to prove that some people are never going to be mature enough to get married. So should the government step in and decide case by case who they think is mature enough? I do think that some marry too young but they have free will and if they make a mistake it is their problem and it is nobody else's business.

If you think that the idiots running socialist states like CA are somehow wiser than parents then I hope you enjoy living in a crime ravaged dump because that is what their wisdom has brought about.

I think that laws can protect children from predators without declaring that a certain age must be forced on all people living under their thumb.

The “rulers” that you reference are supposed to be elected by their constituents. The age of consent is important in protecting our vulnerable. You understand that the courts can determine that a chronological adult is vulnerable and unable to live as an unsupported adult, right? Your arguments are ill-informed. Court appointed conservators exist to protect vulnerable adults along with children. But for the sake of your argument we can stick with just the adults

Actually. I’m not going to trot out the reasoning. I reread what you wrote and I realized you think that California and their “socialists” are somehow worse than Indiana and their undereducated lawmakers. Continue on with your stupidity.

 

[suurfer]

My grandmother was from a more rural pace and married when she was 16 (he was 17 or 18, I think).

But even she used to cringe at such things.
Even tho she found her marriage to be pretty within bounds.

I'm unable to explain it properly, but what was ok then is cringe-worthy and yucky now.

 

[Wings]

My grandmother was from a more rural pace and married when she was 16 (he was 17 or 18, I think).

But even she used to cringe at such things.
Even tho she found her marriage to be pretty within bounds.

I'm unable to explain it properly, but what was ok then is cringe-worthy and yucky now.

My grandma got married at 14 as well, my grandpa was 16. Times change. Would I have ever consented for my kids to have gotten married at 14? No. Way. In. Hell. There are zero reasons for such a thing anymore. Farms and the need for a passel of kids to help care for and run them are no longer relevant. Birth control is safe(r). Children are expected to be educated at least through the 12th grade. Women do not have to marry to own land or have their own bank accounts. We should be more evolved as a society by now.

 

[Boxlicker101]

In the UK people can marry at 16 with the parents' consent, or at 18 without.

One of my cousins married on her 16th birthday. They now have been married for more than 50 years.

But I can't write about that on Literotica. All sexual relationships have to be with people of 18 or over.

One UK policeman emigrated to the US with his wife. Before he could become a sheriff's deputy in the US he had to be given a pardon by the state governor for 'statutory rape' because he had married in the UK when his bride was 16 and a half and their first child was born when she was still 17.

In 1958, my 20 year old brother married his 16 year old bride. They both needed parental consent. Recently, he died at the age of 80, just before reaching his sixtieth wedding anniversary.

 

[suurfer]

My grandma got married at 14 as well, my grandpa was 16. Times change. Would I have ever consented for my kids to have gotten married at 14? No. Way. In. Hell. There are zero reasons for such a thing anymore. Farms and the need for a passel of kids to help care for and run them are no longer relevant. Birth control is safe(r). Children are expected to be educated at least through the 12th grade. Women do not have to marry to own land or have their own bank accounts. We should be more evolved as a society by now.

This is an interesting discussion if one wants to go on the path of comparing time periods and cultures.

Re your previous post:
But indeed, the way shelly2me approached the problem "why not?" is different. Either he's trying to shit-stir, or he's creepy afk.

In the UK people can marry at 16 with the parents' consent, or at 18 without.
1. One of my cousins married on her 16th birthday. They now have been married for more than 50 years.

2. One UK policeman emigrated to the US with his wife. Before he could become a sheriff's deputy in the US he had to be given a pardon by the state governor for 'statutory rape' because he had married in the UK when his bride was 16 and a half and their first child was born when she was still 17.

1. Different times, what was only frowned upon then is unacceptable now.

2. ammended see my next post

 

[dolf]

There's huge amounts of evidence to show that having sexual relations too early increases the risk to physical
and mental health. Citing exceptions you know of is like recalling your grandpappy, who lived to 103 and smoked 30 a day as evidence that smoking is safe.

 

[RobDownSouth]

There's huge amounts of evidence to show that having sexual relations too early increases the risk to physical
and mental health. Citing exceptions you know of is like recalling your grandpappy, who lived to 103 and smoked 30 a day as evidence that smoking is safe.

That's called "anecdata" here. Several pisters on the right here regard them as functionally equivalent of scientific evidence.

 

[suurfer]

... . .

 

[Vetteman]

That's called "anecdata" here. Several pisters on the right here regard them as functionally equivalent of scientific evidence.

That's not true. We don't even believe that science exists!

 

[RoryN]

That's not true. We don't even believe that science exists!

https://i.imgur.com/lwXFQEU.gif

 

[butters]

You have led a sheltered existence, my darling.
Next you're going to tell me that Harry has never once used "sugartits" as a term of endearment...

i cannot tell a lie...

 

[RobDownSouth]

I once had a short business relationship with America's most famous child bride.
(jeeeez, did you see how fast Conager hit the "Report Post" button just now?)

We bought a house and the realtor's name was Myra Something-or-other. Two months later, she is in the local news, seems this was Jerry Lee Lewis' infamous 13 year old child-bride in the 1950s, she was suing someone locally who was performing as "Jerry Lee Lewis Junior".

 

[RobDownSouth]

i cannot tell a lie...

Pffft.....you told American Immigrations you had met Harry on eHarmony!

 

[butters]

Pffft.....you told American Immigrations you had met Harry on eHarmony!

lol

hush yo mouth

 

[RobDownSouth]

lol

hush yo mouth

hey, you're getting pretty good with the local dialect, bless your heart!

A few more years and they might even stop referring to you as "Harry's posh totty".

 

[butters]

hey, you're getting pretty good with the local dialect, bless your heart!

A few more years and they might even stop referring to you as "Harry's posh totty".

i'll have you know down at the cafe/pool table eaterie, i'm known as miss england. i shit you notly.

and bless your heart? gedoudda heeyah

 

[suurfer]

In the UK people can marry at 16 with the parents' consent, or at 18 without.

It wasn't an absurd law until now, in a culture in which the vast majority frown upon such things.
And there Are the rare exceptions. And most of all, the law hasn't been abused.

But I think the law should be changed.
Especially with mass immigration of people from certain cultures in which arranged underage marriages are commonplace.

One UK policeman emigrated to the US with his wife. Before he could become a sheriff's deputy in the US he had to be given a pardon by the state governor for 'statutory rape' because he had married in the UK when his bride was 16 and a half and their first child was born when she was still 17.

I realized I didn't get it properly the first time. It's an interesting discussion.

Why would he be accused of statutory rape upon immigrating to the US?
How old was he when he married the 16 year old?

Was he married in the UK?
Or was he an immigrant already married with child when he emigrated To the UK?

 

[suurfer]

I just saw in the news an on-going debate about the age people should be before the government decides they may have government permission to marry.

Interesting facts:
(I wasn't expecting the US (out of all countries) to do so badly in this respect.
Nor the Catholic church.)



Marriageable age as a right vs. exceptions
By Countries

In 2010, 158 countries reported that 18 years was the minimum legal age for marriage for women without parental consent or approval by a pertinent authority.
-- However, in 146 countries, state or customary law allows girls younger than 18 to marry with the consent of parents or other authorities.

In recent years, EU countries either banned marriage under 18 completely, or require judicial approval for such marriages:
-- Sweden (2014), Denmark (2017), Germany (2017), Luxembourg (2014), Spain (2015), Netherlands (2015), Finland (2019) and Ireland (2019).
Since 1 June 2019 Finland has banned marriages of anyone under 18 with no exemptions
-- Other: Honduras (2017), Ecuador (2015), Costa Rica (2017), Panama (2015), Trinidad & Tobago (2017), Malawi (2017).

In 52 countries, girls under age 15 can marry with parental consent.
In the US, the lax child marriage laws that exist in many states have attracted international attention.

By Religion

When the marriageable age under a law of a religious community is lower than that under the law of the land, the state law prevails.
However, some religious communities do not accept the supremacy of state law in this respect, which may lead to child marriage or forced marriage."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age


I expected Islam to still do pretty badly in this regard.
Even in Europe: In Albania one in ten girls, particularly from the Roma community are still being married before the age of 18.

But I wasn't expecting the Catholic Church:
Their minimum age for girls (with dispensation, I presume) is 14.
However, Pope Francis said this year that he plans to raise the minimum age for girls to marry in the Roman Catholic church from 14 to 16.