Charge and rebuttal

[R. Richard]

I received the following regarding my story 'Healing Process Ch 2':
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You are one sick pupppy
01/06/04 by Anonymous
People dying...how erotic! You are sick.
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I responded:
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Polite Rebuttal
01/07/04 by R. Richard in USA
I feel that your current screed falls short of your incisive analysis, sent to William Shakespeare, excoriating the man for trying to pass off as a love story the violence and death filled work ‘Romeo And Juliette.’ However, I was wounded to the core by your venom. Is there no pity sitting in the clouds that sees into the bottom of my grief?

The series ‘Healing Process’ stems from a situation in my youth when a group of politically supported hoodlums abused and raped several young women. The police could do nothing, until the hoodlums killed the daughter of a police officer. I wanted to explore alternate possibilities.

Actually, I attempt to write all of my stories in as bland and unexciting fashion as possible to avoid raising any passions whatsoever. I must in all fairness tell you that Literotica features stories for adults, not young children; which is not to say that trenchant wit may not be obtain from such puerile sources.
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I would appreciate the feedback of Literotica authors regarding the situation. I attempt to write Literotica stories for the thinking person. Often my stories contain graphic violence and even (dare I say it?) graphic sex. I know that the exploration of topics such as interdigitation prior to marriage may shock some, but I feel that there are ideas that, no matter how shocking, need to be investigated in depth.

P.S. I would gratefully thank the critic for avoiding the use of the personally denigrating term 'crude mofo' that would have me curled into a whimpering foetal ball.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

You are going to get the odd negative feedback no matter what you write. Depending on the category your story is in, the blurb and any author's note a reader may or may not expect violence. If he or she dosen't they could be ofened. Welcome to the club, I regualrly offend people with my work. Depending on your target audience you may get more or less of the offened feedback, but even if you write the nicest, most main stream, literate erotica someone from the perpetually offened club will single you out eventually. It is as inevitable as death and taxes.

-Colly

 

[Madame Manga]

Well, sure, that's a fine rebuttal. But if you post stories and allow anonymous feedback (or interact with human beings in general) you have to realize at some point that you can't force anyone to grow a brain. Anonymous doesn't read the Hangout and wouldn't get the point if he did. He gains all his requisite jollies from spreading around his inadequacies. Shrug and delete, and count your blessings (and the words in your vocabulary).

MM

 

[Guest]

Hola, RR. Your introductory post was a bit over the top ("laid on with a trowel, as Celia said to Touchstone; my, I like quoting that), but I for one appreciate any Shakepearean leanings.

The above posts seem an adequate reply to your intents.

Welcome from Perdita

 

[shereads]

Often my stories contain graphic violence and even (dare I say it?) graphic sex. I know that the exploration of topics such as interdigitation prior to marriage may shock some

From a reader's standpoint, I'd like to suggest that graphic violence ought to be reserved for the marriage bed. Did you consider having the gang marry the girls?

 

[pop_54]

I received the following regarding my story 'Healing Process Ch 2':
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You are one sick pupppy
01/06/04 by Anonymous
People dying...how erotic! You are sick.
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I responded:
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Polite Rebuttal
01/07/04 by R. Richard in USA
I feel that your current screed falls short of your incisive analysis, sent to William Shakespeare, excoriating the man for trying to pass off as a love story the violence and death filled work ‘Romeo And Juliette.’ However, I was wounded to the core by your venom. Is there no pity sitting in the clouds that sees into the bottom of my grief?

The series ‘Healing Process’ stems from a situation in my youth when a group of politically supported hoodlums abused and raped several young women. The police could do nothing, until the hoodlums killed the daughter of a police officer. I wanted to explore alternate possibilities.

Actually, I attempt to write all of my stories in as bland and unexciting fashion as possible to avoid raising any passions whatsoever. I must in all fairness tell you that Literotica features stories for adults, not young children; which is not to say that trenchant wit may not be obtain from such puerile sources.
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I would appreciate the feedback of Literotica authors regarding the situation. I attempt to write Literotica stories for the thinking person. Often my stories contain graphic violence and even (dare I say it?) graphic sex. I know that the exploration of topics such as interdigitation prior to marriage may shock some, but I feel that there are ideas that, no matter how shocking, need to be investigated in depth.

P.S. I would gratefully thank the critic for avoiding the use of the personally denigrating term 'crude mofo' that would have me curled into a whimpering foetal ball.

Fuck me, don't you use a lot of big words Rich, hey friend take all feedback as a compliment, this character believed your tale enough to be shocked by it.

That is after all what we aim for is it not, the reader to become engossed in our little tale and either get a bone-on, get a wet-on, or get-disgusted by it.

Welcome to the nuthouse, pull up a chair and chill.

pops........

 

[R. Richard]

Thanks for the feedback ladies and gentlemen!

I do not particularly care if some reader does not like a story of mine. (The one vote, however, feels as if someone is walking on my grave!) However, I wanted to check with people who are actually writing stories to see if I was way off base. Apparently not.

I grew up in the mean streets of an inner city, actually several inner cities. Unsolicited criticism does not really bother me unless the person is holding a gun on me. (I be knowed as Willie Green on the street and if you got less than a gun, you done come unprepared!)

I try to write for the thinking reader and there will always be a certain percentage of non-thinking readers who do not like the extra work of reading stuff with perhaps a bit more plot than usual. The reward is the feedback from those who made the extra effort!

 

[Gary Chambers]

Dance on my grave, just don't piss on it.

Richard,

You have probably noticed there is a large number of writers at Literotica. In the three months I’ve been among them I’ve learned they write almost for as many different audiences as the writers number. The only thing they have in common is a desire to push the boundaries, and write things that challenge the mind, touch the heart or stir the loins. In three months I’ve moved from one who always wanted to assert the distinction between erotica and porn, to taking a sort of demoniacal glee in calling myself a smutmeister.

I also belong to another group that is said to be the oldest writer’s group on the Internet, but while I retain that other membership and enjoy its cozy family atmosphere, I will not hesitate to tell anyone this is the most dynamic group of writers I’ve found anywhere online. Your work will doubtless be understood at Literotica, Richard. You will not get rich here and the site’s devotion to freedom of expression will always leave you open to reader criticism whether fair or unfair, but you’ll get public exposure and you’ll be in the company of others who will appreciate your motivations and skills.

People walking on your grave is not such a bad thing. Before the Internet, writing was known as the lonely profession. Men and women of wordy bent would grow gothically pale locked in secret lairs where they penned their work in isolation and anonymity. They had to achieve greatness before they could feel the world touching them back. Now you can submit a story to Literotica, and in no time feel a small army walking over your crypt, some of them pausing to thank you for moving them emotionally, others to brand you a worthless churl. In the Author’s Hangout you’ll find others going through the same process, who will offer commiserations or congratulations or sometimes just some cynically humorous wit to help you shrug off the attacks and keep a sense of proportion over the kudos.

Your story description is most intriguing and has prompted me to add you to my must read list.

There’s always room for one more purveyor of filth, Richard. Welcome to Literotica.

Edited To Add: Literotica's editor-in-chief is Laurel. If she feels a submission has received an unfair and unwarranted lowball she's been known to correct it. So if your work can stand on its merit, that '1' vote may not be reflected in the final tally.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Anonymous feedback is always maddening, even when it's good. When it's bad it can make smoke come out of your ears and wake you up at nights. Unfortunately, it's part of the cost of doing business here.

If you want a more informed and articulate opinion of what you're writing and what people think of it, consider posting a link to your story in the "Story Feedback" board and asking for opinions. At least there you can respond to criticism or explain what you're trying to do and find out if it's working.

---dr.M.

 

[MathGirl]

Originally posted by R. Richard I would appreciate the feedback of Literotica authors regarding the situation.

Dear R,
If that reply makes you feel better, fine. Otherwise, my experience is that you have probably wasted your time.
MG