Changes to lit

sweetnpetite

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Lit has seen some changes lately. ONe of them is that some of the category names have been slightly altered such as "non-consent/reluctance" in place of what was once just non-consent. and incest/taboo. What does everyone think about the new category names?


PLus have you noticed the feedback Portal? This is an interesting new feature.

If this has already been discusssed, sorry. I didn't see it.





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sweetnpetite said:
Lit has seen some changes lately. ONe of them is that some of the category names have been slightly altered such as "non-consent/reluctance" in place of what was once just non-consent. and incest/taboo. What does everyone think about the new category names?


PLus have you noticed the feedback Portal? This is an interesting new feature.

If this has already been discusssed, sorry. I didn't see it.





:rose:

:) The changes have been mentioned before. I think they are improvements but I think "Loving Wives" should be changed to "Loving Couples" and it should actually be limited to loving and faithful couples, possibly swingers, although there may not be much of a demand for that.:eek:
 
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Boxlicker101 said:
:) The changes have been mentioned before. I think they are improvements but I think "Loving Wives" should be changed to "Loving Couples" and it should actually be limited to loving and faithful couples, possibly swingers, although there may not be much of a demand for that.:eek:

That's probably the one change I would like to see. Incest/Taboo seems redundant. When I am in the mood for a cheating wife, I'm not interested wife sharing or swingers. ;)
 
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Reshbod said:
That's probably the one change I would like to see. Incest/Taboo seems redundant. When I am in the mood for a cheating wife, I'm not interested wife sharing or swingers. ;)

:D Incest and taboo are not the same. Incest is a legal term meaning sex with a close blood relative. This is also taboo but taboo includes sex with a close non-blood relative, which is not illegal but is frowned on by society, such as sex with a daughter-in-law or an uncle by marriage, etc. I don't know that the distinction needs to be made but it is.:cool:

When I saw the category "loving wives" I thought it meant what it said until I wrote a story for the category. Then I found out the name is actually sarcastic and the category is about women who cheat on their husbands. :p That idea doesn't bother me but I wish there could be a category about actual loving couples.:heart:
 
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Boxlicker101 said:
:D Incest and taboo are not the same. Incest is a legal term meaning sex with a close blood relative. This is also taboo but taboo includes sex with a close non-blood relative, which is not illegal but is frowned on by society, such as sex with a daughter-in-law or an uncle by marriage, etc. I don't know that the distinction needs to be made but it is.:cool:

When I saw the category "loving wives" I thought it meant what it said until I wrote a story for the category. Then I found out the name is actually sarcastic and the category is about women who cheat on their husbands. :p That idea doesn't bother me but I wish there could be a category about actual loving couples.:heart:

Isn't that what Romance is for? ;)

Seriously, loving wives is 'ironic' both ways. I think that originally it was named as such for wives who love their husbands so much that they consent to fulfill his fantasies of having them sleep with another man - Or sleep with their husband's boss to get their husband a raise, or a bank loan, etc etc (You'd be surprised at how many men fantasize about other men sleeping with their wives, both consensual and coerced. Personally, I don't understand it, but there you go)

Obviously, over time, the content has shifted slightly and 'Loving Wives' now is a catch-all for swingers and adulterous encounters.

The Non-Consent/Reluctance change is good. In a lot of other erotica sites this category is deemed 'forced arousal', which is a descriptive title that works as well for men as it does for women. I personally like the images conjured up by the term 'forced arousal' a lot more than 'non consent', as a) it's possible for it to happen to both men and women, and b) there *is* arousal and sexual pleasure happening on both sides, whether forced or not... Which I think is why so many people who write for nonconsent get rejected, because it's not implict in the category title that both parties must be aroused and enjoying the sexual act, at least on a physical level.
 
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I personally like the change fron N/C to N/C/reluctance. Reluctant partners can be come very willing partners, in any story where the action is truly forced you are asking the reader to really suspend his/her disbelief that the "victim" is going to come around to enjoying the encounter.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
I personally like the change fron N/C to N/C/reluctance. Reluctant partners can be come very willing partners, in any story where the action is truly forced you are asking the reader to really suspend his/her disbelief that the "victim" is going to come around to enjoying the encounter.

-Colly

:) I like the "reluctance" idea also. I will NEVER write a story about a rape, allthough I have two about role-playing rapes. I would think "reluctance" is sex through extortion or a demand by employers or something like that. "If you want a passing grade, you'll have to suck me off." "You can have the promotion but only if you eat my pussy." "I have photos of you cheating on our wife/husband and unless you do the same thing with me, I will post them on the internet." Or things like that.:mad:

This wouldn't be rape and the reluctant party might even enjoy it.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
:) I like the "reluctance" idea also. I will NEVER write a story about a rape, allthough I have two about role-playing rapes. I would think "reluctance" is sex through extortion or a demand by employers or something like that. "If you want a passing grade, you'll have to suck me off." "You can have the promotion but only if you eat my pussy." "I have photos of you cheating on our wife/husband and unless you do the same thing with me, I will post them on the internet." Or things like that.:mad:

This wouldn't be rape and the reluctant party might even enjoy it.

I don't like rape stories either, but I do enjoy reluctance. As for the cheating stories, I prefer one or both characters to be reluctant, but eventually give into their lust. While they may not "want" to, but when they do they definitely enjoy it.
 
Shouldn't reluctance be the same as submission? It seems to me that in real life reluctance is virtually equal to rape, whereas in fantasies, the "turn-on" factor of reluctance comes from the (generally) female desire to submit to some strong man.

I may be wrong.

philadelphus
 
perdita said:
I want a category for Irony.

Perdita ;)

It's like bronze-y, but with iron.

"Reluctance" seems like a way to make 'non-consent' even more pc. It makes me want to giggle.

There should be a "really, really sweet" category so that those of us who are too cynical to enjoy that sort of thing are warned in advance.

"Caution: Stories may contain pet names such as "sleepyhead" and "snookie-wookums."
 
Perhaps there should be subcategories, as well.

Penis and/or Breast Size Unspecified

Penis and/or Breast Size Accurate To Within 1/2 Inch

;)
 
philadelphus said:
Shouldn't reluctance be the same as submission? It seems to me that in real life reluctance is virtually equal to rape, whereas in fantasies, the "turn-on" factor of reluctance comes from the (generally) female desire to submit to some strong man.

I may be wrong.

philadelphus

I don't know if 'wrong' is the word I would use. Maybe 'narrow-minded'? Reluctance is, to me, far sexier than non-consent. It is certainly not limited to the stereotype of the strong man seducing the weak-willed woman, though.

- Mindy, pitching in my pennies
 
shereads said:
It's like bronze-y, but with iron.

"Reluctance" seems like a way to make 'non-consent' even more pc. It makes me want to giggle.

There should be a "really, really sweet" category so that those of us who are too cynical to enjoy that sort of thing are warned in advance.

"Caution: Stories may contain pet names such as "sleepyhead" and "snookie-wookums."

Hi, Sher.
You seem to have an affinity for "sleepyhead". I have seen two sites where you have said "Wake up sleepyhead" should never appear in a Lit. story. I have written one where it appears twice and the name is "The Happiest Woman" If there were a "really, really sweet" category, it would fit there. It is actually listed under "loving wives", which seems to have become a sarcastic misnomer.:rose:
 
Boxlicker101 said:
You seem to have an affinity for "sleepyhead". I have seen two sites where you have said "Wake up sleepyhead" should never appear in a Lit. story.

Only two?

That's not entirely accurate, box. I think anything you can get accepted should appear in your Lit stories. It's a free speech site, after all. Plus, when I'm empress of the planet, it will be helpful when I decide to have the pro-sleepyhead writers rounded up for lobotomies.

BTW, it was someone else who first posted the "No Sleepyheads" suggestion. I'm just an apostle.
 
I want to read a story wherein "buggerlugs" is a term of endearment (along with twat).

Perdita

p.s. It was Mab. who wanted 'wakeup' banished.
 
perdita said:
I want to read a story wherein "buggerlugs" is a term of endearment (along with twat).

Perdita

As your patron saint, I'm happy to oblige...This is as close as I've come to publishing a story outside of the roleplay forum, so I don't apologize for dragging it over here from the "Words That Don't Belong on Lit" thread.

"Wake up, sleepyhead," Lord Ravensomething said with a chuckle.

Bambi snorted softly, then sat up and stretched. Ravensomething's buisquets tightened as he admired the way her enormous boobies giggled.

Beneath the sheer gusset of her thong, Bambi's twat was as soft and moist as wet cotton balls.

Lord Ravensomething fingered her poontang, and Bambi tittered prettily.

"Before we pole my raft again, your Lordship, may I ask that we use a condom this time?"

"No, lil one. I will not risk God's wrath by wasting my seed."

"No fellatio, then?"

"That's different."

Bambi tossed back her head and let out the saucy guffaw that Ravensomething had come to love. Her titties bounced so delightfully when she laughed. He could scarcely wait to plunge his maleness into her lil fotch.

"Come here, my little buggerlugs," he commanded.
 
Thank you, ella, but I need to clarify that buggerlugs is more of a working class expression, a lord would not know it. It's Brit though.

Perdita
 
When I have written a story the hardest part I usually have is the 'right' catagory to place it. Part of my problem seems to be the length of my stories. I seem to go for long many chaptered novels it seems. Yet, when I go to place the story I usually talk myself out of putting it in that section. I tend to write about wives and husbands...perhaps they are very loving towards each other, but problems develop...so...loving couples. Most of my stories have several elements in them too.

I get taken to task on almost every story for where I put it and why. The 'new' titles of sections is ok...but it still leaves me with the problems as before. Perhaps, someday when I am a far better writer, I will get this all figured out and make things easier on all, myself included. Until then...well...I stand an imperfect man in an imperfect world.
 
I'd like to see a literary category. One where the stories must be pretty much letter perfect and must have a point besides screwing. I can imagine the shrieking involved, however, if someone submitted to that category and didn't get into it.

More importantly, I am eating Dr. Pepper Jelly Bellies. They do not go well with orange juice. Not even Tropicana's not-from-concentrate. :(
 
perdita said:
Thank you, ella, but I need to clarify that buggerlugs is more of a working class expression, a lord would not know it. It's Brit though.

Perdita

His mother was a shop girl.
 
KillerMuffin said:
I'd like to see a literary category. One where the stories must be pretty much letter perfect and must have a point besides screwing. I can imagine the shrieking involved, however, if someone submitted to that category and didn't get into it.

More importantly, I am eating Dr. Pepper Jelly Bellies. They do not go well with orange juice. Not even Tropicana's not-from-concentrate. :(

There are certain flavors that shouldn't be turned into jelly beans or coffee. Chicken is one. Dr. Pepper is another.
 
curious2c said:
I get taken to task on almost every story for where I put it and why.

I think you've just hit on the most succinct answer to the difference between porn and erotica.

"Where you put it" = porn

"Where you put it" + "Why you put it there" = erotica



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