Celibacy

[Marquis]

if that thing could cook, clean and fetch beer it'd be perfect

A little speaker on the back to hear it scream would be a nice addition.

 

[dolf]

A little speaker on the back to hear it scream would be a nice addition.

lol, i typed "cry" but then deleted
xx

 

[~hellbaby~]

I don't believe this is the case either. The toxicity level of lithium is so close to the therapeutic level that there generally isn't any room to raise the dosage. If you're suggesting that the body somehows adapts to the effects of lithium, I don't think that's possible, although I hesitate to say for sure.

Lithium is not a pharmacological agent in the typical sense of the word. It's merely a mineral, like Zinc. It's been shown to curb the symptoms of people who are manic-depressive, but medical scientists believe we are 100 years away from understanding why.

I think when you get the right level you stay there,If it's like Depakote there is an ideal level you should be at how you reach it is up to the doc. You may take several small doses or one big one daily,how much you need to get to the level differes from person to person.I don't think you get a tolerence to it unlike many other anti~depressants,mood stabilizers and anti psychotics that often stop working.Lithium will affect the kidneys over time but for bipolar it is the best med.there is currently.

 

[Bi_Sammie]

I've decided to go in a different direction. I've been drained pretty much dry by women and I have to change something before I am just undone. It's going to be celibacy for the forseeable future.

I bet that I could change your mind on this celibacy thing little boy.

 

[caela]

lol Sammie be nice to poor Betticus, he needs some time to re-charge himself...if you want to make him change his mind at least wait until it would be worth both of your whiles to do so.

 

[Bi_Sammie]

I'll try to be good.

 

[dolf]

Re: Re: Celibacy

I bet that I could change your mind on this celibacy thing little boy.

little!
you need to see the pic
xx

 

[rosco rathbone]

I almost bought one of those things, but I saw myself getting bored with it quickly.

 

[dolf]

I almost bought one of those things, but I saw myself getting bored with it quickly.

they don't squirm and they don't bruise
xx

 

[rosco rathbone]

they don't squirm and they don't bruise
xx

There are many ways in which masturbation, either manual or machine-assisted, falls short of intercourseing with human women. That is no reason to overlook the pitfalls of intercourse as previously enumerated by me; however.

 

[~hellbaby~]

Let's face it, I think most people would prefer getting laid by the right person over celibacy. People choose to be celibate for their own personal reasons that may or may not make sense to others.For me it was a case of being a single parent and not wanting a string of 'uncles' parading throughout my kids life.I saw how he hurt when I ended a relationship and chose not to put myself or my kid in a place where that could happen again until he was mature enough to understand. So now he says 'mom you need to get laid,maybe you won't be so grumpy then'

 

[caela]

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So now he says 'mom you need to get laid,maybe you won't be so grumpy then'

omg!!! hellbaby as the child of a single mother i can remember saying that exact thing to my mom!!! even offered to babysit my brothers for the night if she'd get a piece and relax!

 

[Marquis]

Lithium will affect the kidneys over time but for bipolar it is the best med.there is currently.

Me treatin' my Bipolar the Jah way mon.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Me treatin' my Bipolar the Jah way mon.

A good friend of mine treated his bipolar the same way: by going off the lithium, moving upstate to work on an organic farm, smoking a lot of weed, having a manic episode, getting locked up in Bellvue, then going home to his parents and killing himself. Stick with the meds.

 

[Marquis]

A good friend of mine treated his bipolar the same way: by going off the lithium, moving upstate to work on an organic farm, smoking a lot of weed, having a manic episode, getting locked up in Bellvue, then going home to his parents and killing himself. Stick with the meds.

Yeah, you're not the first, second, or third person to tell me something like this. My aunt killed herself during an episode. But as much as the writing's on the wall, taking lithium for the rest of my life almost seems like a fate worse than death, like castration or being paralyzed. Oh well, if I ever stop posting for a while, just pour one out for the homie, and know he had mad love for all y'all.

 

[~hellbaby~]

lithium for the rest of my life almost seems like a fate worse than death, like castration or being paralyzed. Oh well, if I ever stop posting for a while, just pour one out for the homie, and know he had mad love for all y'all.

How can you say that? By god may my 12 yr.old never think that, for 3 years we've played with every combination of drugs out there and now it's been over a week w/no meds I'd love to think he will be ok and not need meds again but unfortunatley that will more than likely not be the case so we move on to lithium and pray. It seems to me the hard part is accepting that you will be on meds. for the rest of your life.but so are people with high blood pressure, diabetes etc. It it keeps you stable then why would you want to stop?

 

[~hellbaby~]

omg!!! hellbaby as the child of a single mother i can remember saying that exact thing to my mom!!! even offered to babysit my brothers for the night if she'd get a piece and relax!

The worst part is in the grocery store,he actually went up to a man, much older than my tastes and says"my mom's cute wanna take her on a date/' I was so mad at him I grabbed his arm and drug him out of the store.He was on that kick for a while and was so happy when I finally had a weekend out of town with 'a friend' he's like stay a few extra days -really mom you need to be around grownups.

 

[caela]

The worst part is in the grocery store,he actually went up to a man, much older than my tastes and says"my mom's cute wanna take her on a date/' I was so mad at him I grabbed his arm and drug him out of the store.He was on that kick for a while and was so happy when I finally had a weekend out of town with 'a friend' he's like stay a few extra days -really mom you need to be around grownups.

lol as embarassing as it is for you i have to say that i sympathize with him. my mom was always a MUCH nicer person to be around after she'd had some adult time...even if it was just a weekend away with her girlfriend and not necessarily anything sexual ( though that always improved her mood even more lol ). it sounds like you have a pretty smart son, ~chuckles softly~ he just needs to learn to hone his radar a little better before trying to pick up guys for you.

 

[~hellbaby~]

Luckily sonny is busy getting girls now!It is amazing though after over 5 yrs. how some sex and a good spanking will brighten your mood!!

 

[caela]

absolutly!!!

 

[Marquis]

How can you say that? By god may my 12 yr.old never think that, for 3 years we've played with every combination of drugs out there and now it's been over a week w/no meds I'd love to think he will be ok and not need meds again but unfortunatley that will more than likely not be the case so we move on to lithium and pray. It seems to me the hard part is accepting that you will be on meds. for the rest of your life.but so are people with high blood pressure, diabetes etc. It it keeps you stable then why would you want to stop?

Your child shows symptoms of bipolar disorder at 12 years old? From what I understand about the disease that is very rare.

I'm sorry, but there is no delicate way for me to put this. Your child has been on brain candy since he was 9 years old. Does he even know what its like to deal with lifes actual pressures and cope with shit? Does he even know who he is, walking around high all the time?

I remember in college some of my hallmates would joke that I was ADD. Out of curiousity I looked up the symptoms and realized I was probably eligible for ritalin.

I decided to consult a psychiatrist. I think he had his prescription pad out before my ass hit the chair.

Did the ritaliin help me study? Hell yeah, but so would cocaine or caffeine and any number of stimulants that pharmacologically wire you up. These meds aren't like antibiotics, they don't CURE the disease, they just fuck you up in a way that kind of counteracts what you might see as a problem. Next thing you know they're going to put Vodka in a pill form and prescribe it for people with social anxiety disorder.

So what do I do when I feel the demons rising? I make myself aware of it and control myself. I don't say anything to anybody because I know nothing good is going to come out and I don't make any important decisions. I isolate myself, chill out, smoke a blunt and get my head straight. Plus I have friends who watch me so in case I ever start to go off the deep end I take a powerful antipsychotic that calms me down immediately.

Granted, this is clearly not the most risk-adverse way of dealing with my disease. But like ritalin, lithium is a broadsword, not a scalpel. And the cost of getting rid of my highs (which are often really exciting and memorable) and lows (ok, they just suck) is not cheap. Lithium makes me feel kind of dopey. And for me this is a state of being even more intensely unbearable than being a sucker.

 

[~hellbaby~]

Your child shows symptoms of bipolar disorder at 12 years old? From what I understand about the disease that is very rare.



Bipolar is considered a disorder,not a disease.
It is actually not extremely rare often misdiagnosed as add or depression. His family is filled with it on both sides and it is hereditary.He actually showed signs at 4 and was told then with the history it could not be ruled out.At 9 he was suicidal,that was after 3 years of conselling with a psychologist.The meds saved him from trying to kill himself.He has been screened at C.H.O.P. by one of the best pdocs.{child shrink}specializing in bipolar in children in the country if not the world.The meds are not amphetimines, ritailin is but that is not given for bipolar. The meds do not make him 'high' they are mood stabilizers often used to control seizures as in epilipsy. Some of the meds.regulating seratonon caused drowsiness and we did not use them.The meds are used to stop rapid cycling which is common in kids where the highs and lows can happen in intervals as close as daily.He has been off meds for a week now and the Depakote is out of his system as are the other meds and he feels no different in his head now as when he was on them. I most certainly would not permit him to be on meds if he was walking around all doped up. That is not the kind of parent I am, I do what is necessary to keep him from trying to take his own life which involves a helluva lot more than meds also.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yeah, you're not the first, second, or third person to tell me something like this. My aunt killed herself during an episode. But as much as the writing's on the wall, taking lithium for the rest of my life almost seems like a fate worse than death, like castration or being paralyzed. Oh well, if I ever stop posting for a while, just pour one out for the homie, and know he had mad love for all y'all.

I hear you. I didn't mean to tell you how to live your life, just that I lost a good buddy that exact same way.

 

[sincerely_helene]

I have never actually bitten my tongue to the point of drawing blood before!

 

[Marquis]

Bipolar is considered a disorder,not a disease.

Yeah, for the same reason it's called Bipolar and not Manic-Depressive anymore.

It is actually not extremely rare often misdiagnosed as add or depression. His family is filled with it on both sides and it is hereditary.He actually showed signs at 4 and was told then with the history it could not be ruled out.At 9 he was suicidal,that was after 3 years of conselling with a psychologist.The meds saved him from trying to kill himself.He has been screened at C.H.O.P. by one of the best pdocs.{child shrink}specializing in bipolar in children in the country if not the world.The meds are not amphetimines, ritailin is but that is not given for bipolar. The meds do not make him 'high' they are mood stabilizers often used to control seizures as in epilipsy. Some of the meds.regulating seratonon caused drowsiness and we did not use them.The meds are used to stop rapid cycling which is common in kids where the highs and lows can happen in intervals as close as daily.He has been off meds for a week now and the Depakote is out of his system as are the other meds and he feels no different in his head now as when he was on them. I most certainly would not permit him to be on meds if he was walking around all doped up. That is not the kind of parent I am, I do what is necessary to keep him from trying to take his own life which involves a helluva lot more than meds also.

Well, you have my apologies, it's obvious you're in a tough situation and as a parent I'm sure I too would be willing to do whatever it took to save my child's life. I'm sorry I questioned your practices without having all the facts.

But as far as not "feeling" any different on meds, I've never tried Depakote but I found myself feeling quiet different on Lithium, like a mini-lobotomy or something. Maybe it was just the medicine doing what it was supposed to do.

I saw an episode of Star Trek once where one of the crew had fallen in love with some alien broad, and when the ship had to leave he was left with the woes of love lost. The captain asked him to report to the doctor, because apparently in this time period they have a medicine to cure that, but the crewman refused. I have no doubts that one day there will be a drug for a broken heart or maybe even a drug to prevent you from wanting to cheat on your wife, or one that will remind you to put the toilet seat down. I'm just not interested in this brave new world.