Celebrity Interracial Stories (wf/bm)

[interracial_sex]

Given the lack of celebrity interracial stories, I've thought that anyone who had the ability to write, as well as the authors do here at literotica, could really gain a readership by exploring that interest. I for one, personally, would love to see interracially themed stories for the sitcom Everybody loves Raymond and Home Improvement. I could provide intricate detail if I had to I suppose, but that would take a bit away from where you professionals seem to go so naturally on your own. I have thought that perhaps since "Ray Barone" was a sportswriter in New York that he arranged Debra to go black by being gangbanged by Patrick Ewing and the Knicks. Or that Jill and Tim Taylor had a hotel liason with 3 or 4 black men on their annivesary. Another idea cultivated from my own fantasies is a secret society of country music singers (the women) hosted by Reba Mcentire. Have women like Shania Twain, Sara Evans, Terri Clark, Faith Hill, Leeann Womack, Martina McBride, Dolly, Jewel and others attending very nasty, depraved black cock parties as part of a cult or secret society of submissive slaves to bbc, where on any given meeting, one of the singers is featured showing her black cock servitude by being made "air tight" or dp'd or even taking a golden showers from bbcs to show her devotion and submission. This could take place on a stage, in front of their contemporaries and thier husbands, before it all escalates to each of them being gangbanged.

What do you think?

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Another idea cultivated from my own fantasies is a secret society of country music singers (the women) hosted by Reba Mcentire have women like Shania Twain, Sara Evans, Terri Clark, Faith Hill, Leeann Womack, Martina McBride, Dolly, Jewel and others attending very nasty, depraved black cock parties as part of a cult or secret society of submissive slaves to bbc...

What do you think?

I must say, I do like this idea. Not sure how to go about it to make it realistic, yet, but the basics are great. It could be any group of celeb women, too, who engage in this "secret society".

Do you see the black men as celebs, too, or so called "average" men?

 

[interracial_sex]

I see them as more average, every day black men. Rather dominant and nasty, perhaps even thuggish to a degree as they really verbally get into these celebs, particularly the country singers, playing up the conservative vibe of both country music and the south.

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[BedtimeStories77]

I have a feeling that a story with "thuggish black men" will receive unfavorable reviews at Lit.

 

[interracial_sex]

To be fair I only said a bit thuggish and perhaps even that was a bad way to term it. More along the lines of verbally dominant with the use of some racial overtones. I can't believe that too many members would react unfavorably considering some of the really extreme things I read here that they embrace.

 

[interracial_sex]

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[interracial_sex]

I can't believe this topic isn't is generating more interest or discussion. I KNOW I'm not alone in being aroused by this as interracial fantasies and celebrity fantasy scenarios are among the most common. Seems only logical to put the two together.

Anyone??

 

[cubsfanpa]

I am also interested in this idea, hope it can come true

 

[Sean Renaud]

Its just that the interacial thing doesn't really apeal to me. Otherwise the story idea is good. Its similar to my Starlots to Harlots series. (Shameless plug) which might get some interracial, though in the opposite direction you were wanting. Next planned victims have been narrowed down to Beyonce, The Olsens and Hillary Duff.

Anyway on your story I like the basic idea of it. I don't think that having a bunch of blacks would really hurt you too much. As long as you don't start flinging the "n" word around like its cool then you'll be fine. I mean you will upset somebody but everything upsets somebody. Deal with it. I'm more than willing to help you brainstorm that idea but I've got too much on my plate already as it is.

 

[interracial_sex]

I'm not looking to write it myself. While I am a published author, erotica is not my forte and in fact, while I can write most anything, sexual themes are admittedly awkward for me. I would like to see a literotica author pick up the ball and run with it in terms of the basics I've presented. It could be, or has the potential to be, one of the more arousing stories on the site (for people who enjoy both black men with white women and celebrities anyway).

 

[bisexplicit]

Heh, this is a thread of my two least favorite categories in lit.

Celebrities because of it's complete and utter lack of realism, and interracial because it almost always ends up being a racist story where someone is used as a stereotype and a sex object.

But, I wish you luck in finding someone to write it - hopefully whoever it is could manage to avoid my two pet peeves regarding those categories.

 

[interracial_sex]

There again, why does the celebrity aspect of a story have to lack realism? Celebrities are people just like anyone else and are sexual beings as all of us are. In truth, their very lifestyle often lends a more favorable element of truth, or could, given that their sexual lifestyles, more so than average folks, are lived on the edge. Perhaps it is just me but I can readily see the realistic possibilities of such a "society" as I described in regards to the country music divas. With an albeit small but working knowledge of some of Hollywood's sexual habits, this idea is far within the realm of an actual possibility.

In the case of the interracial slant, with the sheer volume of internet websites devoted to the subject, such as the dark cavern in particularly, it is clearly documented that this is one of the largest interest groups there is. As far as being a "least favorite" because of the characters being used as sexual objects, I don't think, in my estimation that this carries much weight. I defy someone to choose a story on literotica or any other site, where a character is not objectified sexually. If it is an incest story it is the mother being objectified as a portent of the son's lust. If it is a bestiality story it is a woman being debased by the act of sexual relations with an animal. Objectification exists, inherently, in any story written. It is the author's responsibility to write an arousing piece in spite of this in such a way that the person(s) involved are less objectified while remaining sexually viable. This is the challenge.

 

[bisexplicit]

I strongly disagree with you that all stories require objectification. That would mean that one can only have sex with another person if they think of them as an object.

And if you had noticed - that wasn't my main complaint regarding the interracial category, it was the inherent racism.

 

[interracial_sex]

I will not debate this point as it is just a matter of perception between people with clearly different takes on the subject. I believe, and I am only speaking for myself, that in sexual relations between individuals that a certain degree of objectification is inherently and always present. With possible exception to romantic, love-making type stories (and even in them to a degree) this prevailing sense of objectification exists as one or often both (and even more if it's a group scenario) parties involved are seeking to have their sexual energies sated and no matter whether love is involved or not (as it could be just a sexual moment), they are using the physical body of the other as a means by which to exhaust this sexual need. That in and of itself is objectification.

I do see and agree with your position on possible racism in interracially themed stories. I would offer, however, that this pandering to racial differences (and even stereotypes) in such stories is part of the appeal, otherwise it would not be so prevalent in them. Ignoring these racial differences and stereotypes, whether true or false, denies the reality that they exist and are often the genesis behind the motivation for such submissions. The stereotyping in many of these stories goes beyond just the black/white issue. How often are white husbands portrayed as the wimpy, cuckold type? This is no more accurate, or fair, than assuming the stance that the black men in such stories are sexually agressive, dominant, horse-hung physical specimens nothing short of sexual Gods. But this is the overwhelming appeal for most who read and write such stories. Again, in writing a story that depicts sexual relations between people of different races and ehtnicities, to ignore these real or perceived differences is to deny realism and truth-something you said is important to your own enjoyment of reading erotica.

I don't see it as a racist or objectifying; I see it as fantasy scenarios laced with elements of appeal which play up these issues. If white men portrayed as weaklings and cuckolds or black men sterotyped as only sexual beings haven't a problem with this (and I've seen no public outcry from either sect) then who am I to blanketly criticize the genre as elementally/fundamentally racist? I believe we are all adults here and perfectly capable of differentiating fact from fiction, fantasy from reality and racism from unintended harm. It is all about interpretation. After all, every bit is intended for the purpose of arousal, no?

 

[BedtimeStories77]

To be fair I only said a bit thuggish and perhaps even that was a bad way to term it. More along the lines of verbally dominant with the use of some racial overtones. I can't believe that too many members would react unfavorably considering some of the really extreme things I read here that they embrace.

I was only saying based on the feedback/opinions readers have left in this board about interracial it seems many of the readers find the "thug" Dom black man vrs. sub white woman as cliché.

I'm sure there would still be a market for it here though.

 

[bisexplicit]

I disagree with you almost entirely, and I am quite disturbed by your way of thinking. I hope that you never make the mistake of telling your SO that they are a sex object to you.

That said, I should have just left this thread alone.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think that the term object isn't the proper term to be used here. Object has a negative conotation and I don't view my partner/sub as an object. That said when we are fucking I'm not thinking about her political position. So if that is your point I whole heartedly agree with you.

As for racism interacial stories are inherently racist. You cannot write one from a non racist point of view, nor would anybody read it if you did. Because if you don't play up the race card then it is just normal sex. With that said I do think that most people are racist too some degree, and it is normal.

A white guy and a black guy are the last two people to be picked for a game of basketball. Who do you pick and why. This can either way but assuming you know nothing about them and they appear physically similar your decision is and can only be based on race. Unless you flip a coin.

 

[interracial_sex]

So we disagree, what is the big deal about that? People needn't agree on every issue there is. That's another fallacy perpetuated by society that there needs to be unity of belief on every issue under the sun. Am I disturbed or even upset that you don't agree with my way of thinking? Not at all. Nor am I bothered by your way of thinking which seems quite naive, idealistic and passe' to me. And I am quite sure my significant other is secure in herself enough, and quite liberated enough, to realize, intellectually, that there are times when people, even ones undeniably in love, are nothing but sexual objects to one another.

The fact that you cannot see the truth in this neither surprises nor frustrates me. It is merely where you are in your thought processes and perceptions. And as far as your saying you should have left this thread alone, I can see the merit of such a statement seeing as how you admitted neither genre was one of interest. But avoiding things that aren't of interest, but being unable to discuss them open-mindedly while embracing the possibility of the validity of another's view, is what is disappointing.

And in terms of the theme being cliched, there again is the author of a particular story's onus to pen an arousing tale while avoiding the usual pitfalls of triteness. The challenge is the balance between finding the arousal of themes that obviously appeal and in doing so in such a way that isn't trite or overdone. That is indeed a challenge but that is also the satisfaction a writer knows once he or she has successfully done so.

I also agree with Sean to a degree. I'm not consciouslly aware of feelings that my partner is an object during those times when pent lust is being vented. That being said, I'm not aware cognitively, either, of her emotions, feelings and our intimate connection during these more animalistic interludes. We are both presented to the other for the venting of sexual energies, in these specific instances, which are only primal and not emotionally based. This is my point. Such instances, while perhaps not the norm or even common, are liasons in which a certain amount of objectification is present whether we realize it, like it or even want it. It's merely the animalistic truth at the time.

 

[bisexplicit]

1) I did not say it was a problem we disagreed.

2) I don't feel myself to be naive. I know that I can have sex with someone without using them like a sex object. So, there you go, that theory is proven wrong. I can also write stories where multiple characters have depth - and thus, it isn't a story about one person and a sex object.

3) I am saddened for you because you cannot see sex as something emotional. If it was mere animalistic copulation, there would not be pleasure (we are one of the few species that experience pleasure from intercourse). I'm sorry you see that as idealistic and passe.

4) Your open-mindedness comment is actually quite amusing. I entered the thread with this sentiment "But, I wish you luck in finding someone to write it - hopefully whoever it is could manage to avoid my two pet peeves regarding those categories." Try posting the beginning of this thread over on the GB, see if you could get a more positive sentiment.

5) And now I am finally finished, I promise, I will leave your thread alone. Good luck trying to find someone to write your story, I hope it works out for you - but I guarantee I won't be reading it.

 

[interracial_sex]

You may not participate in this thread any longer and that is your choice but, I guarantee, you will read it. And for that reason I will attempt to answer your last post in such a way that isn't as combative as yours, from my own inference, seems to be.

For starters, you have misconstrued my points and the words from my mouth (or in this case, fingers). Secondly, not only have you misconstrued them but you have actually put additional words in my mouth. I never said that sex is always detached from emotion. I merely said that there are times where sex is just sex and emotion or intimacy, isn't or doesn't have to be, part of it. You said, and I quote, " If it was mere animalistic copulation, there would not be pleasure." This comment is ludicrous and just one instance where I stand by my comment that this idea is naive. Myself and innumerable other people in this life have experienced sex without intimacy and experienced pleasure in doing so. The physical sensations of the act alone were pleasurable. Sex doesn't always include love. This is fact, not theory.

Should sex include emotion and intimacy? Ideally, yes. And I admit that it enhances the experience. But to think it must be present for sex to be enjoyed is both naive and, very simply, wrong. Do not feel sad for me because of an erroneous assumption you make, that I can't or don't, see sex as something emotional. Sex can be (and is) emotionally driven more often than the reverse, when no emotion is present and when sex is just sex for sex's sake. However, BOTH instances occur and for you to say otherwise is incredulous. People like myself, who can differentiate between sex and love, know this to be true.

Lastly, I'll not post this idea anywhere other than where I have, as this is where I feel it is most appropriate. After all, it is the story idea section and that is all I endeavored to do; post a story idea that I'm interested in seeing brought to fruition. I'm convinced there are many others who would like to see it written also, as they sheer volume of interracial (and celebrity) stories on site tell me that there is more than a passing interest in the subject. And finally, whether you read it or not matters absolutely not to me. That is your choice. If it in fact gets written, I will take pleasure in the story and that is all that matters to me personally. Not whether you do or do not read it or if you do or do not enjoy it. I could care less.

 

[interracial_sex]

Despite what this thread degenerated into, I would like to see it revised and taken back on point so that the original idea might be given proper thought and cultivated into a submission here at literotica. Anyone have any thoughts on the idea presented and able to remain on topic and in a civil manner? I vow myself to stay focused on the theme and not sidetracked no matter the nature of replies received.

 

[interracial_sex]

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[interracial_sex]

Not sure what to make of that......

 

[interracial_sex]

Sarah Evans, Jill Taylor (Patricia Richardson), Shania Twain and Debra Barone (Patricia Heaton) need some black cock. Anyone up for writing the tale?