Celebrity Endoresments (Warning: RANT)

[cheerful_deviant]

The radio is on and I had to listen to Mr. Hair himself, Donald Trump expound upon the benefits of CarFax and how he loves the service. Now seriously here, dose anybody out there really think that Donald is out looking around some used car lot looking for a good deal on low mileage '98 Accord with a automatic transmission and new tires?

The really scary part is, somewhere out there is a person thinking "Well, Donald Trump uses it when he buys his cars..."

 

[Samandiriel]

The radio is on and I had to listen to Mr. Hair himself, Donald Trump expound upon the benefits of CarFax and how he loves the service. Now seriously here, dose anybody out there really think that Donald is out looking around some used car lot looking for a good deal on low mileage '98 Accord with a automatic transmission and new tires?

The really scary part is, somewhere out there is a person thinking "Well, Donald Trump uses it when he buys his cars..."

Maybe he owns the company and figures he is the only one who can endorse the product.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

I'm not a direct customer of plently of companies, but I admire a great many of them. If Donald Trump--as a successful business man--endorses a business, I may inclined to think they do good business.

 

[Liar]

It's a common marketing fallacy, and one that often works, as demonstrated in Joe's post. The Trumpmester has a good reputation and lots of insight from his perspective, which is one that he doesn't share with the ad's target audience. And their perspective is one that he can't experience, thus his endorsement of a busiess aimed at the common man is only relevant to a certain point.

 

[Dar~]

It's a common marketing fallacy, and one that often works, as demonstrated in Joe's post. The Trumpmester has a good reputation and lots of insight from his perspective, which is one that he doesn't share with the ad's target audience. And their perspective is one that he can't experience, thus his endorsement of a busiess aimed at the common man is only relevant to a certain point.

Kind of like Fabio advertising for Rogaine

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

It's a common marketing fallacy, and one that often works, as demonstrated in Joe's post. The Trumpmester has a good reputation and lots of insight from his perspective, which is one that he doesn't share with the ad's target audience. And their perspective is one that he can't experience, thus his endorsement of a busiess aimed at the common man is only relevant to a certain point.

Which is odd, because if it works in marketing its not a marketing fallacy. : )

 

[cheerful_deviant]

I'm not a direct customer of plently of companies, but I admire a great many of them. If Donald Trump--as a successful business man--endorses a business, I'm inclined to think they do good business.

That's an interesting take on it. Personally I just look at it and think that Donald figured that for an hours work he could make a quick million and satisfiy his egomania for a while. I find it hard to take the advice of someone whom I know has never used the product they are plugging.

Personally I could care less what most celebrities think. From what I have seen, I wouldn't trust most of them to make toast without electrocuting themselves and/or burning the place down. I'm certainlly not going to take their hardly disinterested opinions about which cola I should drink or which car I should drive.

 

[Liar]

Which is odd, because if it works in marketing its not a marketing fallacy. : )

Uh. Ya it is.

Who says fallacies doesn't work? As long as enough people are fooled by an argument, however irrelevant, it will have the desired effect. That doesn't make it a more relevant argument. And that's all a fallacy really is - an irrelevant argument.

Celebrity endorsement is such a fallacy. The opinion of the celebrity in question, in this case mr Trump, has no real logos impact on the consumer, but many are tricked into thinking it does.

#L

 

[rgraham666]

Why would I pay any attention to a person who wears a dead muskrat on his head?

 

[Dar~]

nobody ever pays attention to me.

 

[cheerful_deviant]

nobody ever pays attention to me.

Join the club.

 

[Guest]

Why would I pay any attention to a person who wears a dead muskrat on his head?

laughing -

 

[Liar]

nobody ever pays attention to me.

Build a few scyscrapers and start a reality show, and you'll soon see how that can change.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Uh. Ya it is.

Who says fallacies doesn't work? As long as enough people are fooled by an argument, however irrelevant, it will have the desired effect. That doesn't make it a more relevant argument. And that's all a fallacy really is - an irrelevant argument.

Celebrity endorsement is such a fallacy. The opinion of the celebrity in question, in this case mr Trump, has no real logos impact on the consumer, but many are tricked into thinking it does.

#L

Well, a fallacy is a misconception from incorrect reasoning... if the procedure works, then it's not a misconception that it works. If it didn't work and it was good marketing to assume it did, then it'd be fallacious.

: )

(one day, I'll get a different hobby)

 

[Dar~]

Well, a fallacy is a misconception from incorrect reasoning... if the procedure works, then it's not a misconception that it works. If it didn't work and it was good marketing to assume it did, then it'd be fallacious.

: )

(one day, I'll get a different hobby)

Is anyone else getting really confused and thinking a lot about felatio?

 

[rgraham666]

Is anyone else getting really confused and thinking a lot about felatio?

Giving or getting?

 

[Guest]

Lots of phallic references.

Or maybe some people are just thinking with their dicks?

 

[Dar~]

Giving or getting?

Giving definitely

 

[rgraham666]

Giving definitely

Oh good. Because I was thinking about getting (Zip).

To get back on topic, sort of, I would like to have Muskrat Head's real method of buying a car.

(Points at a flunky).

You! Buy me a car. And if I don't like it, you're fired.

 

[Liar]

Well, a fallacy is a misconception from incorrect reasoning... if the procedure works, then it's not a misconception that it works. If it didn't work and it was good marketing to assume it did, then it'd be fallacious.

: )

(one day, I'll get a different hobby)

That explains it then. We've got slightly different definitions of the word. Could be a translation thing.

What I talk about when I say fallacy is a choice on the sender end to intentionally use incorrect reasoning, an argumentative "cheat" if you will, that usually works to fool the reciever. Often an entymeme with an incorrect implicit, but there are many other kinds. Like plain ol' lies.

 

[Liar]

Is anyone else getting really confused and thinking a lot about felatio?

I don't need to get confused to think a lot about fellatio.

 

[elsol]

Advertising works, does anyone argue that point?

Name Branding works, does anyone argue that point?

Donald Trump is a name brand; he is lending his name brand to another product.

Does it mean he uses the product?

DT using CarFax... come on!

Does it mean anything?

Yes, it makes the product MORE recognizable.

Consider this... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CARFAX!

Why are we talking about CARFAX... because Donald Trump was in the commercial.

*drumroll please*

Commercial successful.

It's about their name coming to your mind first if all other things are equal.

So when you're looking for used car, you might think Carfax because you saw DT on their stupid commercial, or because we talked about the stupidity of having a guy that probably has never bought a used car in the commercial.

The marketing guys don't really give a shit as long as your paying attention and when the moment comes you think of them.


Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Nothing I own I bought due to commercials, name branding, or any form of advertising besides word of mouth and past experience.

I win.

Now where's the fellatio and where's my cut?

P.S. elsol is right, it's the same principle behind commercials that deliberately offend or annoy you. People complaining about a product's advertising often mentions the name of a product.

 

[BlackShanglan]

nobody ever pays attention to me.

Liar

 

[Guest]

personally, i would only use massengill feminine hygiene products if they were endorsed by Linda Lovelace...





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