Catfight

[lisalove]

Oops sorry! There's no bikini-clad women rolling in the mud, pulling each others' hair, caressing kissing groping writhing. ooh such messy, slippery fun. ok maybe later.

I'm curious what personal experiences y'all have had with this.

Phyllis Chesler (author of Women and Madness) has written another book saying "that women's tendency to undermine one another is keeping women back" as opposed to the conventional feminist line of blaming everything on patriarchy.

Do you think women in general do not support each other?

Have you ever been shunned or malisciously gossiped about by other women? Have you done that to others?

Did another female ever pull you out of the truck by your hair, while you were giving her boyfriend a blowjob, drag you through the gravel, kicking and calling you a slut? (*cough* a friend from kentucky told me this).

Well.....??

 

[Zamdrist]

Did another female ever pull you out of the truck by your hair, while you were giving her boyfriend a blowjob, drag you through the gravel, kicking and calling you a slut?

That happened to me...fucking tramp.

But seriously, I see this at working a lot. Women can be so catty towards one another, it's unfortunate. Guys typically work better together.

 

[explain]

Being in somewhat of a political position, I see this crap all the time, but more on the political field. Personally, I find it very amusing as I have an "insider" that tells me what is going on all the time.

An example.
Maria knows that Mary is trying out for a new position. Maria wants that position too. So Maria, in her interview, mentions that Mary has been a little bit on the erotic side. During Mary's interview, the dude makes a pass. Mary rejects. Maria gets the job.

I've seen this so often, it's almost comical!

Of course, this is in the business world, not in the "real" world. In a lot of ways, it's just like the Jerry Springer world...

Not to be sexist, but there is little difference in the jockying for position in the male world, just much more agressive. Still, just as comical as far as I'm concerned.

 

[sabbathstorm]

I think women can be pretty vicious to one another. I've been on the receiving end of some nastiness over the years. I had to put up with a lot of bullshit regarding my sexuality and myself as a person. I've been shunned, been gossiped about but have gotten to the point where I don't give a shit anymore. Five years ago it would have bothered me but now I see how pathetic some people can be. I have a lot better things to do than gossip and drag someone's name through the mud. I think I'm a rarity in this hick town.

 

[BustyTheClown]

I think women are capable of great kindness towards one another, as well as great viciousness. We seem to be placed in positions of competition quite frequently -- at our jobs, in our schools, in our personal lives, etc. Men are the same way. I don't think it's correct to say that women are more "catty" than men at, say, obtaining a position at their jobs that they direly want/need. Same goes with their sex lives -- both men and women will do some very underhanded deeds to other men and women in order to get what they want.

Hey, I guess it's just human nature. We all have our bad days.

 

[lisalove]

Not to be sexist, but there is little difference in the jockying for position in the male world, just much more agressive. Still, just as comical as far as I'm concerned.

I think that's one of the points she makes in her book, that women tend to be competitive in more covert, but psychologically more harmful ways. It's more insidious in that the 'target' is either undermined or completely ostracized.

 

[lisalove]

I think women can be pretty vicious to one another. I've been on the receiving end of some nastiness over the years. I had to put up with a lot of bullshit regarding my sexuality and myself as a person. I've been shunned, been gossiped about but have gotten to the point where I don't give a shit anymore. Five years ago it would have bothered me but now I see how pathetic some people can be. I have a lot better things to do than gossip and drag someone's name through the mud. I think I'm a rarity in this hick town.

Good for you...I came to a point too where I said, "oh well better to be talked about than not"...but i see what you mean, you just have to be true to yourself and rise above it.

 

[Quint]

Women are crazy creatures

In 9th grade one of my friends threatened me not only with witchcraft, but with shoving me down a flight of stairs because I wore a camisole around her boyfriend. Now THERE'S a girl KillerMuffin needs to go after with bratwurst.

I've seen my share of slander. Usually I am the "best friend," and so even though I'm in the perfect position to ruin the relationship and get the guy, I chicken out. Pesky "morals." Females can't be physical and beat the competition silly, can they? No, it's got to be all backhanded and sneaky and traumatizing. Well, I guess being beaten silly can be pretty traumatizing too....

 

[explain]

...Women tend to be competitive in more covert, but psychologically more harmful ways. It's more insidious in that the 'target' is either undermined or completely ostracized.

You got that right! Man-o-man, you got it. Some things I have seen amazes me to this day. Men, are much more direct. Mentioning by name what the others are or have done. Women, are very subtile (at least to me being the interviewer) but leaves you with the visualization of what the other interviewees are like. Subtile, yes. But damnit, it sticks in your mind like a knife. You feel obigated to investigate the accusation (or mention thereof.)

There's an old line, "Hell hath no fury like a women scorned" (or somthing like that.) I feel the women doesn't have to be scorned to produce hell in a competition.

To tell you the truth, if I had to go for a position against a women, I would be more intimidated that if I was up against a man... (Freaking laws are in the women's favor against slander...)

 

[cymbidia]

catfights

We've had a couple of them here, at Lit.
However, we sure as hell don't want to revisit them.

 

[lisalove]

I agree with Busty, women often have intense caring bonds with each other..I love and totally trust my bestfriend.

Quint: Yes being beaten silly would be pretty traumatizing too..

Explain: Lighten the fuck up...(oops maybe that's too aggressive)


Cym: Hmmm just as i was joining Lit, there was some awful bitchfest going on...

 

[cymbidia]

Cym: Hmmm just as i was joining Lit, there was some awful bitchfest going on...

Ah yes. January. Hope you stayed out of it! Man! Who needs that kinda grief?

 

[Svedish_Chef]

How many times do I have to say that cats are no good again?

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: Re: Catfight

Guys typically work better together.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Obviously you've never heard of the Big Dick contests. Each man needs to prove his is the biggest. You want a decision made that isn't based on dick size? Let a woman handle it.

 

[Sillyman]

I don't think men get along better, but usually a guy won't pretend to be your friend while they secretly hate and despise you. Men are naturally competitive over-aggresssive assholes, but they usually show they hate someone straight out. Men will still be pricks to each other too, but women will be the ones who stick the claws into the emotions deep and pull.

 

[Cheyenne]

I don't think men get along better, but usually a guy won't pretend to be your friend while they secretly hate and despise you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You've never seen the exec levels of Corporate America, it seems. This is EXACTLY what they do, every single day. It's called politics.