Capitalist or Socialist?

[LordMithras]

How do you rate yourself? Time to declare yourselves, so I can understand you a little better. Though I get the overall impression of several of you.

It's a little curiosity on my part.

Are you a centrist, social democrat, communist, fascist, libertarian, American-style conservative, European-style conservative, syndicalist, or anarchist?

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, I always vote Socialist. And the capitalists always win, so all my goodies are protected and I can still feel good about how I voted.

 

[Carnevil9]

I didn't see my true label, Anarcho-Capitalist (wikipedia it if you need to), so I voted "anarchist" as the best approximation.

Your garden variety capitalist believes that we need a government, but that it should keep its grubby hands off of the free market. But an anarcho-capitalist, such as myself, believes that the best form of society has NO government at all, but rather lets the wisdom of the free market run all aspects of human intercourse.......Carney (heh, heh, he said "intercourse")

 

[desertslave]

Considering the subject line, where the heck is just plain capitalist?

 

[Carnevil9]

Actually, it might be more fun to decide what labels we would put on OTHER members of the forum.

 

[Xelebes]

I really have no ideology.

 

[TE999]

Card carrying Libertarian here. A believer in free markets, free trade, limited government, minimal control over peoples lives by the state (if at all), states rights, low taxes, fiscal responsibility in government, legalizing 'soft' drugs and prostitution and staying the hell out of foreign wars and internal squabbles.

I never elect a president, but I still voice my opinion on him/her as the occasion warrants.

 

[LordMithras]

A centrist, disgusted with the corporate welfare of the right and the wage subsidies of the left. Whatever am I to do, eh?

 

[DesertPirate]

Somewhere between conservative and libertarian

 

[LordMithras]

My other problem with the Right is that they think that protecting the environment is a conservative/liberal issue. Since when should it be controversial to keep poison out of my water and my lungs? Isn't that the sort of active harm that even conservatives and libertarians should try to use coercion to stop?

 

[LordMithras]

3113, are you really a Fascist? I thought that you were a liberal, which in my poll really corresponds more to Fabian socialism...

I'm quite shocked.

 

[Carnevil9]

Since we are on the subject of political philosphies, I might as well take this opportunity to proselytize my own personal belief: Anarcho-Capitalism. I can't help but believe that anyone who bothers to read more than a sentence or two of this sublimely worthwhile approach to life will be overtaken with the wisdom and inevitability of the movement. Please, take a gander, and find your world transformed for the better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho_capitalist

 

[colddiesel]

Anti Labels.

 

[Carnevil9]

Anti Labels.

We're all anti-labels. But that doesn't change the fact that there is a plethora of philosphies out there, and they are worth discussing.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I'm not anti-labels. Like them or not, labels clarify things as much as they obfuscate them.

In any case, I'm basically a quasi-Libertarian independent at heart, although I can see some of the appeal to Carney's ideology of "anarcho-capitalism". I also agree with LM's sig quote by Lysander Spooner. It is quite accurate. I sometimes despair when I see the growth of illiberal democracy (that's authoritarian democracy, not conservative exactly).

There are times when I am tempted to vote for Bob Barr, but I'm not sure if his conversion is genuine, which is my main objection to him.

Now, if I could get Barry Goldwater back from the dead, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, lol. Or Everett Dirksen, for that matter.

 

[Liar]

Not sure what all the labels mean. European/American-style conservative? There are dozens of different tupes of conservatives in America alone.


I am some kind of libertarian. But I consider many other kind of libertarians to be idiots.

 

[XXplorher]

What is a "Centrist"?

And how the hell did we get 2 votes for Fascist?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

What is a "Centrist"?

And how the hell did we get 2 votes for Fascist?

JBJ doesn't surprise me, but I must admit that I share LM's shock about 3113.

 

[rengadeirishman]

I believe in nearly absolute freedom, as long as you dont kill or seriously ruin someone else, do whatever y'feel. you wanna shoot heroin? go for it. wanna sell your body? sounds good to me. wanna live by yourself in the middle of the woods without having to tell anyone your there? i might even do so myself. as long as you dont kill or maim anyone it sounds good to me. Just realize that your actions will cause their own reaction.

I think honour should be what matters. So whatever that is, pencil me in.

 

[rgraham666]

My political stance is heresy.

 

[gauchecritic]

I'm not bothered about labels, I've been labeled all sorts of stuff. I've been called Marxist, lenninist, left wing, anarchist and the funny thing is I've not read any Marx nor Lennin (or Engels or Liebnicht[sp]) it's just that I've reached what I'm told are similar conclusions about political will. (that it rests in the people and not government, that slavery can include wages etc)

So (as Marx implies) I have to strive for communism in order to maintain socialism.

I didn't see any category that would describe my socialism and I seriously doubt that the average 'American' could recognise my philosophy without instructions to "get back to Russia." (which is not now nor ever has been labelled by the West as that which is was: a single party democracy [much like the US])

 

[off2bed]

Tough choice - American Conservative or Libertarian. They used to be more the same. I picked Libertarian because of their view on Federal Government, which I think is far more important than either party's views on social issues.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Actually, I'm a Rational Libertarian, I actually don't hold with all the planks in their platform. I believe in a strong National Defense Policy. Other than that, do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt or injure me or mine. And I mean that in the broadest sense. You dump toxic waste in a river, it will get into the water table and could eventually hurt or injure me or mine, so don't do it.

 

[neonlyte]

You've omitted Election-by-Lot... it avoids the politics and is the oldest form of government.

 

[only_more_so]

I'm a small government conservative, perhaps leaning toward libertarian (but without the hippy smell).