Can't do nothin' any more!

[DVS]

Because everything causes cancer!

 

[PhilGarlic]

must

must hide that report from the wife....

 

[Loverskitten]

First I thought, wow old news, then I saw the date, 2007. Yep HPV very nasty stuff, I know.

 

[Loverskitten]

ACK, that was post 666 must post again fast

 

[Loverskitten]

Ahhh that's better

 

[Primalex]

Because everything causes cancer!

Of course, virologists need money.
If you would pay firefighters per extinguished fire, what do you think would happen? If you have a company like Bayer, do you really think they would tell you the truth if it means that you might not purchase something from them?

This is what happens the last 25 years in the virology science. The latest joke, the HPV vaccines against cervical cancer that don't work.

 

[intothewoods]

Of course, virologists need money.
If you would pay firefighters per extinguished fire, what do you think would happen? If you have a company like Bayer, do you really think they would tell you the truth if it means that you might not purchase something from them?

This is what happens the last 25 years in the virology science. The latest joke, the HPV vaccines against cervical cancer that don't work.

It's a myth (or conspiracy theory) that pharmaceutical companies make oh so much money from vaccines. Yes they make money from them, but vaccines are a one or two shot deal. The big money makers are long term drugs like lipitor and all that shit.

 

[midwestyankee]

It's a myth (or conspiracy theory) that pharmaceutical companies make oh so much money from vaccines. Yes they make money from them, but vaccines are a one or two shot deal. The big money makers are long term drugs like lipitor and all that shit.

Or Viagra and its kissing cousins, that are taken voluntarily and as often as the "patient" wishes.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

It's a myth (or conspiracy theory) that pharmaceutical companies make oh so much money from vaccines. Yes they make money from them, but vaccines are a one or two shot deal. The big money makers are long term drugs like lipitor and all that shit.

I hear what you are saying about conspiracies, but after a discussion I had recently with a friend, I have a hard time not believing that it is not at least partially driven by profit. I found out that the standard schedule recommended for children these days in the US these days includes 31 shots total plus annual flu after the age of 6 months through the age of 18. This means from birth to 18, that is a total of 49 shots. If you consider the goal is that this is for EVERY child, (approximately 25% of a population over 3,110,000) annually, it's a pretty penny no matter how you cut it. Someone is profiting regardless of it being sold as a product that is "for the common good". I was also shown the actual pricing and the "mark up" between private sector & CDC pricing and found that to be curious as well.

 

[Cautious_Eli]

I have some connection to this industry, and I can say that there is profit, but it is also exorbitantly expensive and difficult to bring a drug to market. Not to mention there have been major issues with some of the companies that help to conduct trials and major ethics violations. That said- the big issue is that very few companies make vaccines. There is a great resource here funded by the Greenwall Foundation if you want to see more.

 

[graceanne]

Dude, didn't they tell you. Posting online causes cancer!

 

[Primalex]

I have some connection to this industry, and I can say that there is profit, but it is also exorbitantly expensive and difficult to bring a drug to market.

EBIT is EBIT. Worldwide sales volume for vaccines was 25 billion, expected 40 billion in 2015. That's not that shabby.

Yes, speciality medicine is much more interesting, 1 billion just for Bayer for Betaseron, Kogenate and Nexavar each.

But what I said is that virologists need money - not the sales are important, but the funding of vaccine research! 15 billion funding just from Bill and Melinda Gates. If you take a closer look at DVS' link, you can read the "We need money to support the investigation of oral sex and cancer" between the lines. No, the whole study is just to get fundings and I know this, too, because I've worked in federal funded projects myself that were completely useless and just there to drain money.

 

[intothewoods]

Or Viagra and its kissing cousins, that are taken voluntarily and as often as the "patient" wishes.

Talk about a one shot deal! Ba dum dum. I have no shame.

I hear what you are saying about conspiracies, but after a discussion I had recently with a friend, I have a hard time not believing that it is not at least partially driven by profit. I found out that the standard schedule recommended for children these days in the US these days includes 31 shots total plus annual flu after the age of 6 months through the age of 18. This means from birth to 18, that is a total of 49 shots. If you consider the goal is that this is for EVERY child, (approximately 25% of a population over 3,110,000) annually, it's a pretty penny no matter how you cut it. Someone is profiting regardless of it being sold as a product that is "for the common good". I was also shown the actual pricing and the "mark up" between private sector & CDC pricing and found that to be curious as well.

Yes, there are more shots than there were and pharmaceutical companies are businesses, but the goal is herd immunity not huge profit margins.