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Markov Cain

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Monday July 30, 2001; 6:21 p.m. EDT

Blacks on Both Sides Agree: Clinton's Harlem Move a Sham

Radical left wing New Black Panther Party leader Quannel X and conservative Project 21 spokesman Kevin Martin don't agree on much.
But the political odd couple hit it off on one topic Monday afternoon -- Bill Clinton opening an office in Harlem. Both suspect the former president's professed love of African-Americans is as phony as a three dollar bill.
"We don't believe that having Bill Clinton in Harlem will be a great thing for black people in Harlem," Quannel X told WABC Radio's Sean Hannity.
"We believe that Harlem has its own set of unique problems that the people must look inwardly and internally to solve for themselves.
"You and I both know that Clinton is not at home in Harlem," Mr. X complained. "Clinton didn't even choose Harlem as his first place to come after he left office."
The ex-president first planned to move into pricey office space near Manhattan's Carnegie Hall, but the General Accounting Office said the rent was too high. Mr. and Mrs. Clinton own two houses in nearly all white neighborhoods in Chappaqua, NY and Washington, D.C.
"Because he was rejected at other places he'll now come to black people," said Mr. X.
"Why? Because he knows that he can give us a song and dance but never has to address the serious issues of what's happening in Harlem -- as he danced around the real issues involving black America when he was in office."
Project 21 director Kevin Martin echoed Quannel X's criticism of Clinton.
"When he initially announced he was going to move his office to Harlem, the same week he also played golf at Indian Creek down in Florida -- a club that openly bans blacks and Jewish people from holding memberships," Martin recalled.
"This is nothing more than the continued dumbing down of the African-American voter and the pandering that the Democrats do. Because they're actually scared that something's gonna get done (under Bush) and they're gonna lose some votes."
"I agree with you. I totally agree with you," Quannel X told Martin. "You're exactly right, brother. It's almost like a dumbing down of the American people."

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/7/30/172325
 
As an ex-NewYorker who worked in Harlem, has an ex-girlfriend who still lives in Harlem, and who once contemplated living in Harlem (the apartments are HUGE) I have to say that I always have a problem with anyone whose point of view seems to be "Harlem is separate black country and everythign that happens here is solely about the black community". Harlem is certainly black, but, like all of New York, is much more mixed than you think at first glance. There are whites, Spanish, Puerto Ricans, Cubans and Asian, all living there, all running business, all part of the community. To view every story about Harlem only through black eyes is myopic.

Not that Clinton's choice of locale wasn't self-serving (though, to what end I don't know), and not that Harlem and the balck community aren't tied very, very strongly together, I just have a problem seeing any georgraphical description of New York in such, excuse me, black and white terms.
 
I just found it so amazing to find to such widely divided political schools meeting together on one point. Perhaps Clinton was, in his own special way, a greater uniter than I ever gave him credit for.
 
Why bother responding to Markov DCL?

:p
 
(I just can't believe he didn't look for offices around 9th and 34th St, the border between Chelsea and Clinton. Such a lost opportunity for synergy.)
 
I think you're wrong. I just replied to DCL and there was none of that there. Just kind of an astounding article on a day when that news drove President Bush's meeting with the Black FOP back to page two.

Hell, Clinton wasn't really news was he?

After all, we've known for months that he had rented the office.

So he finally showed up to work at the office.

What was the big hay?
 
DCL - That last one was good!
My experience in NYC was limited to the tourist-type stuff when I was st NAS Lakehurst. (Where another famous bad of hot air crashed and burned).
 
BINGO!!!!!

Sire,

Do you wants behing door 1 or 2?
 
Never been to Harlem, but my maternal grandmothers place in good ol Wyandotte County was pretty dark.
 
Did you read too much into this?
I mean it's just two black people answering some questions about Clinton.
Using it as race-baiting or making statements about Harlem were the farthest things from my mind.
 
Re: Well said Lavy

Siren said:
I think the acronym AJ is a bit backwards for your personality. Let's flip it around.

in case you need the dots connected here.........


it means......

JA = Jackass.


Hang in there, MC. Liberals are not only passively aggressive, but down right aggressive.
 
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